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October 16, 2018
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Carnivalkilla44 said

Just like how not so ancient text described a time when Pluto was part of our solar system? Fuck outta here scientists! Pluto got the bone fo sheezee.
   

Pluto is part of our solar system as is every object out to the Ort cloud and possibly beyond. The issue is that we use an arbitrary definition of what a planet is. We can and have changed that definition. Pluto hasn’t changed, just our definitions.

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…That kinda shit is what I think about all the time, Morty.  It’s blows my fucking mind, Morty.  You should watch “Red Dwarf” if you like StarTrek, Morty! 2+12 Morty! It’s fucking 14, Morty!  

Red Dwarf is one of my favorite TV series of all time! It really is a “blows my funking mind” kind of show. Strongly recommend it for anyone. It’s a British series and has 12 seasons with 75 episodes total. 

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Karacalla said

I totally get your rundown and am in awe of Psyrals complete, and quite detailed, answers to some of the points attempted with this theory, but what you are saying is when we scour the universe looking for life we should look for the Goldie locks zone, liquid water and a moon similar in size to ours because it balances out the planet perfectly giving life a high probability?

Those three things to me would fall under the “to good to be natural” concept and would make me think that a helping hand played a roll in life’s development here. Yes, when they say “Known Universe” it’s a very tiny slice that we have been able to study, but, even that small portion contains billions of stars with multiple planets each and still, no moon similar to ours. So out of all of these insane theories, I tend to give this one a small amount of merit based on this.

Recently, they think we have either a companion star (Red Dwarf) or a long lost planet because of the gravitational Nibaru jostling asteroids around in our outer belt, I forget the name. The theory goes that every major extinction level event on earth happened within the same amount of years and what ever is coming out of this strange orbit around the sun causes it, any thoughts?  

So using that logic, which is that we physically can’t study it, but we have studied that laws of physics and chemistry can change at will in space, it is not that ridiculous to think the Goldielocks theory is completely irrelevant.  It’s like the one in a trillion chance that the conditions exist for that one way for life, but what if we should really be thinking about the other 999.999.999.999 ways that life could be formed and sustained using rules that we’re not aware of?

All very valid points, but, if we really have no understanding on how life is created here how can we look for alternative versions of it elsewhere?

I think humanity seeks out conditions similar to those here, moon, Goldie locks zone..ect, because it is our constant and we are trying to re create that constant by finding the same variables out there. 

If we would find life on Titan, our lack of knowledge on how life is created is switched with the variables that we know leads to that absolute, so we would be looking for those exact same conditions. Its the human perspective. 

The companion star we allegedly have has been dubbed, Nemesis, or if its a planet, its Nibiru. 

I love this kind of stuff, thanks for the great conversation y’all. 

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Karacalla said

All very valid points, but, if we really have no understanding on how life is created here how can we look for alternative versions of it elsewhere?

We can’t.  That’s what I’m getting at.  I mean that if we somehow find it elsewhere in our solar system, then ok.  But if we don’t, that doesn’t prove anything in the grand scheme of things.

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Karacalla said
All very valid points, but, if we really have no understanding on how life is created here how can we look for alternative versions of it elsewhere?

We can’t.  That’s what I’m getting at.  I mean that if we somehow find it elsewhere in our solar system, then ok.  But if we don’t, that doesn’t prove anything in the grand scheme of things.  

Ah, I see now. Maybe one day we will find out the universe itself is its own entity and part of something else and we are just one egg in an infinite grand Russian nest doll, lol 

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I remember hearing a really great explanation for why we haven’t discovered intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. I would link it but I can’t remember where I heard it, or even who said it. It was basically discussing the incredibly limited time scale we are dealing with.

 

Ok, so think about how long there has been life on Earth. The earliest confirmed fossil says evidence is 3.5 or so billion years ago. .

How long has there been human life on Earth? The linrage between the ancestor of chimos and humans split between 5 and 7 million years ago.

The oldest known tools are 3.3 million years old.

The first telescope was invented about 400 years ago.

The first photos taken from a celestial object other than Earth were taken 60 years ago.

 

Basically we haven’t had a long time to look.

Couple this with the fact that the Andromeda Galaxy (our nearest galactic neighbor) is 2.5 million light years away.

It takes 2.5 MILLION years for the fastest thing in the universe (as far as we know) to reach us. Those planets are likely completely different by the time the light from it reaches us. There could have been a transmission sent to us a million years ago and we wouldn’t have even received it yet.

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We can never leave the local group because of the rapid expansion of the universe. So if we ever find it, cross your fingers it’s tucked away somewhere within our neighboring galaxies. Sucks knowing one day shit will be spread out so far apart nothing will be visible in the night sky but darkness, Sad and beautiful all at the same time. Damn.

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Karacalla said
We can never leave the local group because of the rapid expansion of the universe. So if we ever find it, cross your fingers it’s tucked away somewhere within our neighboring galaxies. Sucks knowing one day shit will be spread out so far apart nothing will be visible in the night sky but darkness, Sad and beautiful all at the same time. Damn.  

If it makes you feel any better, humans and the Earth will be long gone before this happens.

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