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May 29, 2013
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I did some reading since the buzz about them, but it seems to be a double edged sword.

On one side their genetically altered seeds and pestacides prevent starvation and might actually be healthier than regular seeds.

The bad side is that, for one they won’t let us know what they put in their seeds.

I guess they have a law preventing people from reporting research results on chemicals found in their seeds.
This means that you could find poison in their seeds but telling people about it is illegal, that is not good.

The other thing is that they have almost become a monopoly.
The patent they have on their seeds prevents others from trying to make super seeds as well.
Not only that but the government seems to completely back them up thus making it unfair for competition.

There is a fear that they may run the small time farmers out of business.

Personally I’m not against genetically altered foods, I just want to know that they are safe.
As for the little guy vs. big corporstions view, I’m not against big corps. with good products, but some of the laws and government backing seems unfair.

So I’m not against the company as a whole, just some of the laws backing them.

So, what do you think?
And if there is any new info backing or opposing them please enlighten me.

May 29, 2013
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I wish I could chime in, but i’d only be talking out of my ass. I only vaguely know about the whole controversy behind it

May 29, 2013
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My biggest beef with Monsanto is that they patent every god damn molecule in their seeds and not only do they make up ” 86 percent of corn, 88 percent of cotton and 93 percent of soybeans farmed in the US” (source), but that because of that, they can claim copyright infringement any time they god damn well feel like it if they suddenly decide you’re “violating their patent” (aka operating a farm they’d like to control).

Other than that the whole seemingly being hell bent on destruction and devastation thing is kinda crappy. 

May 29, 2013
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i could talk your ear off about this topic;  from the biochemical side [due to personal study, its interesting shit], and from the producers point of view [due to a particular job i used to have].  ill try not to.

 

the short version is:  the food is safe, or safe enough, anyway.  driving is much riskier.  playing football.  in the end, its at worst the lesser of two evils, which is a billion or two people die of starvation.  

 

businesswise, theyre big.  real big.  but the top half dozen food companies are getting paid no matter what you eat.  its virtually impossible to spend money without having some of it go to them.  

 

stalkzs point is the more troubling issue, id say.  its not quite that extreme, but close [and getting closer as genetic engineering advances].  at some point, theyll hit the ‘too much power for private hands’ threshold.  sadly, the lesser of two evils in that case is likely to be government.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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“[…] sadly, the lesser of two evils in that case is likely to be government.” he said, sending a sudden, paralyzing chill straight down my spine

May 29, 2013
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They have the government believing that their success will have a trickle effect, whether it’s true or not, it has the government passing all kinds of unfair laws and patents for them. I’m surr their food isn’t too bad zt the moment since chances are ane vegetable I eat came.from them, but I still think it sucks.that they could poison us all if they wanted to and nobody is aloud to expose them if they are poisoning us. Though gohe law is probably pased yo because they seem paranoid about people stealing their super.seeds.

May 29, 2013
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I hate typing on this phone, half the time it won’t even show me what I’m typing.

May 29, 2013
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Monsanto is evil as fuck..straight up…same as our govt…check out a documentary called King Corn on netflix….really good shit..

 

Russia suspends import and use of American GM corn after study revealed cancer risk  

  • The European Food Safety Authority orders review in to the research, conducted at a French university
  • Russia’s decision could be followed by other nations
  • Experts at the University of Caen conducted an experiment running for the full lives of rats – two years
  • The findings found raised levels of breast cancer, liver and kidney damage
  • The same trials also found minuscule amounts of a commonly used weedkiller, Roundup
  • Both the GM corn and Roundup are the creation of US biotech company Monsanto

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Russia has suspended the import and use of an American GM corn following a study suggesting a link to breast cancer and organ damage.

Separately, the European Food Safety Authority(EFSA), has ordered its own review in to the research, which was conducted at a French university.

The decision by Russia could be followed by other nations in what would be a severe blow to the take-up of the controversial technology.

 
Cancer risk? A farmer shows two corncobs of genetically engineered corn by U.S. company Monsanto, right, and two normal corncobs from Germany, leftImage Enlarger

Cancer risk? A farmer shows two corncobs of genetically engineered corn by U.S. company Monsanto, right, and two normal corncobs from Germany, left

Historically, biotech companies have proved the safety of GM crops based on trials involving feeding rats for a period of 90 days.

However, experts at the University of Caen conducted an experiment running for the full lives of rats – two years.

The findings, which were peer reviewed by independent experts before being published in a respected scientific journal, found raised levels of breast cancer, liver and kidney damage.

 

The same trials also found evidence that consumption of minuscule amounts of a commonly used weedkiller, Roundup, was associated with a raised risk of cancer.

Both the GM corn, which carries the name NK603, and Roundup are the creation of US biotech company Monsanto.

The decision by the Russians to suspend authorisation for the American GM corn threatens to trigger a transatlantic commercial and diplomatic row.

 
Contentious: A combine harvests corn in a field near Coy, Arkansas. The decision by the Russians to suspend authorisation for the American GM corn threatens to trigger a transatlantic commercial and diplomatic row Image Enlarger

Contentious: A combine harvests corn in a field near Coy, Arkansas. The decision by the Russians to suspend authorisation for the American GM corn threatens to trigger a transatlantic commercial and diplomatic row

Russia’s consumer rights watchdog, Rospotrebnadzor, said today that it has suspended the import and use of the Monsanto GM corn.

Rospotrebnadzor said the country’s Institute of Nutrition has been asked to assess the validity of the study.

It has also contacted the European Commission’s Directorate General for Health & Consumers to ask for the EU’s position on the corn’s safety.

Consumer scepticism in the UK and Europe means GM corn is not on supermarket shelves here, however it is fed to farm animals, including hens, pigs and dairy cows.

Important: In the USA, and much of Europe, corn is used to make an array of food products including cornflakes (picture posed by model)

Important: In the USA, and much of Europe, corn is used to make an array of food products including cornflakes (picture posed by model)

Last week Monsanto said it did not think the French study would affect its license to export the NK603 to Europe but would wait to hear from EFSA.

The company said: ‘Based on our initial review, we do not believe the study presents information that would justify any change in EFSA’s views on the safety of genetically modified corn products or alter their approval status for genetically modified imports.’

The biotech industry and university researchers involved in GM research have mounted a major PR campaign over the last year to win over sceptical consumers.

In the past week, pro-GM scientists have been lining up to undermine the French experiments and criticise the way they were conducted.

However, a number of independent academics have praised the French team’s work, describing it as the most thorough and extensive feeding trials involving GM to date.

Mustafa Djamgoz, the Professor of Cancer Biology, at Imperial College, London, said the findings relating to eating GM corn were a ‘surprise’.

Prof Djamgoz, who describes himself as a neutral on GM, said: ‘The results are significant. The experiments are, more or less, the best of their kind to date.’

However, he said that it is now important to ensure they are repeated with more animals by independent laboratories to confirm the outcome.

‘We are not scaremongering here. More research, including a repetition of this particular study are warranted,’ he said.

The professor said it will take two to three years to get a definitive answer.

 

 

May 29, 2013
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Russia Warns Obama: Monsanto

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The shocking minutes relating to President Putin’s meeting this past week with US Secretary of State John Kerry reveal the Russian leaders “extreme outrage” over the Obama regimes continued protection of global seed and plant bio-genetic giants Syngenta and Monsanto in the face of a growing “bee apocalypse” that the Kremlin warns “will most certainly” lead to world war.

According to these minutes, released in the Kremlin today by the Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment of the Russian Federation (MNRE), Putin was so incensed over the Obama regimes refusal to discuss this grave matter that he refused for three hours to even meet with Kerry, who had traveled to Moscow on a scheduled diplomatic mission, but then relented so as to not cause an even greater rift between these two nations.

At the center of this dispute between Russia and the US, this MNRE report says, is the “undisputed evidence” that a class of neuro-active insecticides chemically related to nicotine, known as neonicotinoids, are destroying our planets bee population, and which if left unchecked could destroy our world’s ability to grow enough food to feed its population.

So grave has this situation become, the MNRE reports, the full European Commission (EC) this past week instituted a two-year precautionary ban (set to begin on 1 December 2013) on these “bee killing” pesticides following the lead of Switzerland, France, Italy, Russia, Slovenia and Ukraine, all of whom had previously banned these most dangerous of genetically altered organisms from being used on the continent.

Two of the most feared neonicotinoids being banned are Actara and Cruiser made by the Swiss global bio-tech seed and pesticide giant Syngenta AG which employs over 26,000 people in over 90 countries and ranks third in total global sales in the commercial agricultural seeds market.

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Important to note, this report says, is that Syngenta, along with bio-tech giants Monsanto, Bayer, Dow and DuPont, now control nearly 100% of the global market for genetically modified pesticides, plants and seeds.

Also to note about Syngenta, this report continues, is that in 2012 it was criminally charged in Germany for concealing the fact that its genetically modified corn killed cattle, and settled a class-action lawsuit in the US for $105 million after it was discovered they had contaminated the drinking supply of some 52 million Americans in more than 2,000 water districts with its “gender-bending” herbicide Atrazine.

To how staggeringly frightful this situation is, the MNRE says, can be seen in the report issued this past March by the American Bird Conservancy (ABC) wherein they warned our whole planet is in danger, and as we can, in part, read:

“As part of a study on impacts from the world’s most widely used class of insecticides, nicotine-like chemicals called neonicotinoids, American Bird Conservancy (ABC) has called for a ban on their use as seed treatments and for the suspension of all applications pending an independent review of the products’ effects on birds, terrestrial and aquatic invertebrates, and other wildlife.

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“It is clear that these chemicals have the potential to affect entire food chains. The environmental persistence of the neonicotinoids, their propensity for runoff and for groundwater infiltration, and their cumulative and largely irreversible mode of action in invertebrates raise significant environmental concerns,” said Cynthia Palmer, co-author of the report and Pesticides Program Manager for ABC, one of the nation’s leading bird conservation organizations.

ABC commissioned world renowned environmental toxicologist Dr. Pierre Mineau to conduct the research. The 100-page report, “The Impact of the Nation’s Most Widely Used Insecticides on Birds,” reviews 200 studies on neonicotinoids including industry research obtained through the US Freedom of Information Act. The report evaluates the toxicological risk to birds and aquatic systems and includes extensive comparisons with the older pesticides that the neonicotinoids have replaced. The assessment concludes that the neonicotinoids are lethal to birds and to the aquatic systems on which they depend.

“A single corn kernel coated with a neonicotinoid can kill a songbird,” Palmer said. “Even a tiny grain of wheat or canola treated with the oldest neonicotinoid — called imidacloprid — can fatally poison a bird. And as little as 1/10th of a neonicotinoid-coated corn seed per day during egg-laying season is all that is needed to affect reproduction.”

The new report concludes that neonicotinoid contamination levels in both surface- and ground water in the United States and around the world are already beyond the threshold found to kill many aquatic invertebrates.”

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Quickly following this damning report, the MRNE says, a large group of group of American beekeepers and environmentalists sued the Obama regime over the continued use of these neonicotinoids stating: “We are taking the EPA to court for its failure to protect bees from pesticides. Despite our best efforts to warn the agency about the problems posed by neonicotinoids, the EPA continued to ignore the clear warning signs of an agricultural system in trouble.”

And to how bad the world’s agricultural system has really become due to these genetically modified plants, pesticides and seeds, this report continues, can be seen by the EC’s proposal this past week, following their ban on neonicotinoids, in which they plan to criminalize nearly all seeds and plants not registered with the European Union, and as we can, in part, read:

“Europe is rushing towards the good ol days circa 1939, 40… A new law proposed by the European Commission would make it illegal to “grow, reproduce or trade” any vegetable seeds that have not been “tested, approved and accepted” by a new EU bureaucracy named the “EU Plant Variety Agency.”

It’s called the Plant Reproductive Material Law, and it attempts to put the government in charge of virtually all plants and seeds. Home gardeners who grow their own plants from non-regulated seeds would be considered criminals under this law.”

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This MRNE report points out that even though this EC action may appear draconian, it is nevertheless necessary in order to purge the continent from continued contamination of these genetically bred “seed monstrosities.”

Most perplexing in all of this, the MRNE says, and which led to Putin’s anger at the US, has been the Obama regimes efforts to protect pesticide-producer profits over the catastrophic damaging being done to the environment, and as the Guardian News Service detailed in their 2 May article titled “US rejects EU claim of insecticide as prime reason for bee colony collapse” and which, in part, says:

“The European Union voted this week for a two-year ban on a class of pesticides, known as neonicotinoids, that has been associated with the bees’ collapse. The US government report, in contrast, found multiple causes for the collapse of the honeybees.”

To the “truer” reason for the Obama regimes protection of these bio-tech giants destroying our world, the MRNE says, can be viewed in the report titled “How did Barack Obama become Monsanto’s man in Washington?” and which, in part, says:

“After his victory in the 2008 election, Obama filled key posts with Monsanto people, in federal agencies that wield tremendous force in food issues, the USDA and the FDA: At the USDA, as the director of the National Institute of Food and Agriculture, Roger Beachy, former director of the Monsanto Danforth Center. As deputy commissioner of the FDA, the new food-safety-issues czar, the infamous Michael Taylor, former vice-president for public policy for Monsanto. Taylor had been instrumental in getting approval for Monsanto’s genetically engineered bovine growth hormone.”

Even worse, after Russia suspended the import and use of an Monsanto genetically modified corn following a study suggesting a link to breast cancer and organ damage this past September, the Russia Today News Service reported on the Obama regimes response:

“The US House of Representatives quietly passed a last-minute addition to the Agricultural Appropriations Bill for 2013 last week – including a provision protecting genetically modified seeds from litigation in the face of health risks.

The rider, which is officially known as the Farmer Assurance Provision, has been derided by opponents of biotech lobbying as the “Monsanto Protection Act,” as it would strip federal courts of the authority to immediately halt the planting and sale of genetically modified (GMO) seed crop regardless of any consumer health concerns.

The provision, also decried as a “biotech rider,” should have gone through the Agricultural or Judiciary Committees for review. Instead, no hearings were held, and the piece was evidently unknown to most Democrats (who hold the majority in the Senate) prior to its approval as part of HR 993, the short-term funding bill that was approved to avoid a federal government shutdown.”

On 26 March, Obama quietly signed this “Monsanto Protection Act” into law thus ensuring the American people have no recourse against this bio-tech giant as they fall ill by the tens of millions, and many millions will surely end up dying in what this MRNE report calls the greatest agricultural apocalypse in human history as over 90% of feral (wild) bee population in the US has already died out, and up to 80% of domestic bees have died out too.

May 29, 2013
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just eat organic fruit and veg and we dont have to worry about it…organic food is not GMO……

May 29, 2013
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Monsanto is evil company in charge of a great technology. Use that shit on other things like hemp corn and soy for bio fuel only not food. Nature did not intend for watermellon to be seedless and seeds should never be patented.

May 29, 2013
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So the other day, someone was laughing at me for growing like 90% of fruit and vegetables my family eats myself. Now i can show them.

My veggie garden has purely heritage vegetables and the several fruit trees i own have all been planted in the last 10 years from seeds used  from the previous trees.

 

i grow about 1.5 tonnes or more of fruit and veg a year.

 

I feed my family (me, wife and dog), most of the nieghbourhs get weekly bags of goodies, the soup kitchen a few suburbs over gets 2 big bags a week, my mum and her hubby and my little sister adn her fiance.

 

And ive bought about 100kg of fruit to work for the people i work with since i started 10 months ago.

 

and i live on a relatively small block. moral of the story, do some research on where you can get heritage vegetable seeds (which are essentially seeds that havent been modified as teh are the same types of seeds as 50 – 60 years ago and grow your own. it take minimal space and its easy to maintain and 100 times healthier adn you know where your food comes from.

 

May 30, 2013
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wow 100 kg thats like 220 pounds in American….thanks cocaine for teaching me how to convert….

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May 30, 2013
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bwahahahah

hey, im not judgemental. i learnt how to convert shit via cooking hahah

 

my family ahs always been big into growing fruit and vege. my mum has a dozen chickens, so we get eggs all the time too. plus i got a few mates who have cows/goats so we get fresh milk from time to time aswell.

 

that and butchering time around farms is always a good time of year, we end up with half a sheep crammed into our spare fridge and freezer haahah.

May 30, 2013
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My mom and her husband live on a semi-farm and they have the works too. Goats, chickens, cows, strawberries, raspberries, tomatos etc…. I actually just spent the last four hours bailing/loading hay. It was actually kind of therapeutic….Beautiful day outside

May 30, 2013
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Slumerican502 said
My mom and her husband live on a semi-farm and they have the works too. Goats, chickens, cows, strawberries, raspberries, tomatos etc…. I actually just spent the last four hours bailing/loading hay. It was actually kind of therapeutic….Beautiful day outside

 

yeah man, i feel that. im up at 5am every morning to go over my garden and pick fresh veges for dinner, pull some weeds when they pop up and fertilising. love my gardens. i got fruit trees outt eh front of my house and the local kids come and pick there share too, i also pickle alot of veges aswell. i got garlic, onions, eggs, daicon radish, beetroot and some leftover homemade tomato relish in my pickling cupboard atm. i trade it for fresh jam with the ladies who live at the end of my street haha, they make the best berry jams.

 

 

green living is pretty awesome hahaha, and cheap.

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tomato season is hands down my fav time of year, get up and pick a few fresh tomatos, slice em up and have fried tomato and eggs on toast for breakfast. god damnit im hungry now.

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My ex husband works there. As well as his step father who is some big wig for Monsanto up in St. Louis. All I can say is their pay is great and their insurance is fuckin amazing. If you want, they will pay the 50,000 so you can have atest tube baby. I worked there for a summer detassling corn and they paid you 15/hr to walk through a field and pull some shit off the stalks.. If theyre evil, I musthave been walkin with the devil cause they sure did treat me right lol

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Violentdope said
just eat organic fruit and veg and we dont have to worry about it…organic food is not GMO……

Organic is no better, stop kidding yourself. Organic food is littered with man made pesticides that we stopped using in the late 70’s because they were and still are harmful to the human body.  FACT. It’s also over 50% more expensive because it is not profitable for private farming. FACT. Organic growing methods could only feed a small portion of the population of the world no more than 30% .FACT. Organic farms grow a minuscule percentage of actual products on the shelves because they are simply a money pit. FACT. Over 80% of our organic grown foods are IMPORTED to America from countries all over the world that do NOT have such strict laws nor things like the FDA, EPA, and whatnot. FACT.

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My ex husband works there. As well as his step father who is some big wig for Monsanto up in St. Louis. All I can say is their pay is great and their insurance is fuckin amazing. If you want, they will pay the 50,000 so you can have atest tube baby. I worked there for a summer detassling corn and they paid you 15/hr to walk through a field and pull some shit off the stalks.. If theyre evil, I musthave been walkin with the devil cause they sure did treat me right lol

 

i get people need jobs n shit, but is it really worth taking this path. if they invest so much into eco farming methods the world would be better off.

how much does is take someone to sell there soul to the devil? a test tube baby and a seedless watermelon it seems.

 

@ryda – i agree organic is a joke, thats why i grow my own, its cheaper and tastes better then any mass produced crops can put out of a supermarket stall. i like my fruit fresh not 12 + months old.

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