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KM's Pipebomb: The fall of the Underground and why we're close to repeating '96/'97.
April 7, 2017
6:03 pm
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I know the last couple times you all saw me post something here. It wasn’t the best thing. It generated alot of hate and alot of anger. So why am I doing it again? No it’s not to troll trust me. I’ve dealt with enough stupid ass cyberbullying trolls on the internet to last me 3 lifetimes. But I dygress. Let’s get started.

 

As we all know by now. There’s a giant riff which has been upgraded to a blackhole within the entire underground. People severing ties, people throwing jabs at one another on social media, people throwing subliminal disses on records, and people just fueding back and forth since the start of 2017. First it starts with the first announcement that shook waves. Young Wicked and Ax Murder Boyz jumping from Psychopathic to Majik Ninja Entertainment. Which the way it looks caught alot of people by surprise [me especially since it was known fact at the time that Twiztid and Blaze hated AMB with a passion and called them a ripoff of the demented duo]. To me that wasn’t a big deal. Cause I knew there was gonna be talent going back and forth between the labels just because one might have a higher plateau than the other [Psychopathic currently with RED distribution which only distributes North America while the label has a licensing deal in the UK and Europe through Epitaph, while MNE has a global backing from In-Grooves which has backing globally by Universal Music & Video Distribution]. So yeah, only problem would be Otis’s than-relationship with Samantha Bruce. Which is a whole another story there that I don’t think we’ll hear about for a long time. Anyways.

The bigger announcement was yet to come. The announcement of the long-anticipated Juggalo March on Washington D.C. We get a date and a possible concert for free. And a slew list of people who are invited to perform. At first it would seem that Twiztid and MNE would accept. We all knew Esham would decline as he made a big statement last year after the 2016 Gathering of the Juggalos that he would no longer perform at any Juggalo-related festivals again, which wasn’t a surprise given the on again/off again issues Esham and Mastamind has had with the Juggalos and “Respect” over the years. But what came to a shock to alot of people was Twiztid speaking on behalf of their entire label saying they’re not going. Well okay that wasn’t really a shock since in a way if you look at it, this march is kinda a publicity stunt [unless you do what I’m planning to do there and that’s actually bring a charity with you to help that charity out with] but they did say “we’ll see you at juggalo day tho” which kinda sounded like something Paul Heyman would say in the middle of a Brock Lesnar promo on Monday Night Raw, ya’know those “I’m sorry but we don’t perform for free.” type shit? That’s what really started setting shit off and things just started unraveling from there.

Next we get the epic 2 hour long faygoluvers interview with ICP. And in that interview we heard alot of shit. Psychopathic severs ties with MNE, The juggalo weekend event gets revamped and redone, and people get pissed… That heat quickly fades away thanks to the short 5 minute video Twiztid drops on their facebook [probably not the smartest place to post a video like that cause the internet will eat it up and spit it back out. #fact], and the countless replies and responses Monoxide’s had to say which was filled with more unchecked fact’s than anything [not saying any statement Psychopathic’s made was left without any unchecked facts ether cause I’ve had to run factchecks on them 2] I’ve ever read and it had me feeling glad I don’t do drugs lol. Anyways.

Fast forward post Juggalo weekend. And Blahzay Roze gets dropped from Psychopathic Records. The one artist they actually had to overpay security to protect because of how many people hated her and wished harm on her. We see a couple posts on twitter of her all alone in a Florida Airport, and than the announcement that they severed ties. And than the bombs start falling from her mouth. Now I know enough people from Massachusetts and lemme tell ya’s. When they get pissed they hold nothing back. and oh boy did she hold nothing back. Now another rapper in the middle of this one was Bay area horrorcore rapper Mars. Now this problem got settled quite quickly and it seems with the exception of Becky it looks like J and Mars are cool..

But than we move to the past week or so… And the imfamous ICP interview at the World famous New York hip hop station Hot97 FM. Great interview. But guess we all forgot about Tech N9ne as well now didn’t we? Tech’s normally good at letting psychopathic know when he can and can’t make it to gatherings and festivals and stuff they put together. Guess the memo got lost in the mail here cause a few days later we hear a new song from Stevie stone song “eat II”. Now to the rest of us it sounded like a diss. But Tech clarified it on social media that it was not. But to each their own I guess.

 

Anyways. What I’m trying to say here through that quick recap is that there’s more than enough combustible elements here to create the next big tragic event in Hip Hop history. And I can back this up. First off. Tech N9ne has said in songs that he runs with the red which is slang for Bloods, ICP’s cool with Myzery who runs in a click called Spanish Side, and Spanish Side has close ties to the Latin Kings. Young Wicked and Bonez Dub I know based on outfit’s they’ve worn in the past have ties to the Bloods over in Denver. Add those ingredients together and you got a tragic series of events ready to just unfold. This is why lately I’ve been ashamed to say I’ve been down lately. Because I was born in the 1980’s and raised in the 1990’s. I was around when rap was at it’s rawest. I’m talkin’ about NWA, Public Enemy, Eazy-E, etc. And that even means I was around for the biggest series of Tragic Events to ever take place in Hip Hop.

 

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Tupac Amaru Shakur. On the night of September 7th, 1996. Hours after a Boxing match featuring his good friend Mike Tyson. An altercation takes place in the lobby of the MGM Grand Garden Casino and Hotel in Las Vegas, Navada. Hours later while driving ironically to an anti-violence fundraiser the car he and Death Row Records owner Suge Knight’s car is riddled with bullet holes, Tupac was shot 4 times in the chest and had a lung removed. 7 days later due to hemorrhaging and internal bleeding Tupac died.

 

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Christopher George Latore Wallace. Better known to the world as The Notorious B.I.G. and on March 8th, 1997 he presented an award to Toni Braxton at the 1997 Soul Train awards which would be his final televised appearance. Later that night after the ceremony, Wallace attended an after party hosted by Vibe magazine and Qwest Records at the Petersen Automotive Museum in Los Angeles. Other guests included Faith Evans, Aaliyah, Sean Combs and members of the Bloods and Crips gangs. After the club was shut down by the fire marshal for being overcrowded Biggie and company parted ways each in 2 GMC Suburban’s and a Chevy Blazer. at 12:45 AM on March 9th while at a red light a white Chevy Impala pulled aside the GMC with Biggie inside and opened fire. He was rushed to the hospital where he was pronounced dead at 1:15 a.m.

 

Now why did I bring these 2 names up you ask and why the fuck does it have to do with the juggalo family? Well here is why I’m about to tell you. Because with the elements mentioned before. We’re dangerously close to seeing the same thing happen to somebody ether at psychopathic, MME, or Strange over something so stupid it could’ve been squashed by talking it out. Just like Pac and Biggie’s dispute.

Yes I’m going back to that for a second. The fued between Tupac and Biggie not only put a riff between 2 former close friends but a big riff between both the East Coast and the West Coast. All to the point where West coast rappers were afraid to perform on the east coast and east coast rappers were afraid to perform on the west coast. And it all started because of these 2. Songs like “Holla At Me”, “Hit Em Up”, “Bomb First”, and “Against All Odds” by pac and Friends solely aimed at Biggie and his crew while “Who Shot Ya?”, “Brooklyn’s Finest”, and “What’s Beef?” aimed solely at Tupac and company. did cause alot of people to pick sides [I know my school was completely split between sides. Some liked Death Row and Tupac and some liked Bad Boy and Biggie. And right now I’m seeing the same goddamn thing happening here within the underground. People are taking sides, People who were once telling one another “I love you like your blood man” are now like “Fuck you, I Hate you” and shit like that. All because of music and artists and shit.

 

What we need to do is get back on a solid unified front and send a message not only to Insane Clown Posse and Psychopathic but to Twiztid and Majik Ninja, Tech N9ne and Strange, and everybody else involved. And time is not on our side. It could be a matter of time before somebody thinks stupid and shots ring out at a concert or an event and somebody dies. Now I know this is a hard thing to say and I guarantee you that this will be filled with more hate than anything because everybody doesn’t like it when somebody says something completely different that they don’t agree with. And that we also in a time where this country is divided more than ever and it may never be repaired again…

 

In closing I really do think there’s a chance that the underground can unite back together and maybe mend all the broken fences and repair the burned bridges and we can all get back to fucking normal. It’s a strange and sad time right now and it’s going to be this way for quite sometime. Now I’m not against ether label and I will forever remain neutral [I pre-ordered Digital Voodoo just recently and I’m already signed up for the Juggalo March]. But I fear something tragic is bound to happen in the next couple weeks or months…. Just because history repeats itself…. And that’s when it’s going to become even more scarier. So I’m just gonna leave this here to end this pipebomb.

 

Thx for reading. Let me know your thoughts rather it’s positive or negative below. Have a good weekend. MMFCL Whoop! Whoop! Oi! Oi!

April 7, 2017
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You’re way too caught up in shit if you think anything between twiztid and ICP will be anything like pac and biggie. 

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

April 7, 2017
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Killa-Mo187 said, somewhere around the halfway point of the essay     

Anyways. What I’m trying to say here through that quick recap …  

through that what?   

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  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 7, 2017
9:33 pm
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This guy wants attention.

I suggest we dont give him any.

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April 7, 2017
9:43 pm
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bayAreaShaman said
This guy wants attention.

I suggest we dont give him any.  

What attention? I’m just speaking my own thoughts and views. When is that a bad thing?

Noah Fence said
You’re way too caught up in shit if you think anything between twiztid and ICP will be anything like pac and biggie.   

Actually the word your looking for is paranoid… And if you read what I said. You’ll see why I’m predicting this because cycles to have a way of repeating themselves every 20 years or so.

April 7, 2017
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These juggalo book reports hurt my head 

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April 8, 2017
2:58 am
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My ninja I think your spending 2 much time on this trivial thing, 2 compare them to 2pac & biggies beef is stretching it out….a lot

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April 8, 2017
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This thread ya-right

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April 9, 2017
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twiztid_ruiner said
My ninja I think your spending 2 much time on this trivial thing, 2 compare them to 2pac & biggies beef is stretching it out….a lot  

I get that alot.

JabroniKilla said
These juggalo book reports hurt my head   

I apologize. I don’t post that often unless something’s on my mind concerning the fam. So no need to worry.

April 9, 2017
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Killa-Mo187 said 
…Thx for reading. Let me know your thoughts rather it’s positive or negative below. Have a good weekend. MMFCL Whoop! Whoop! Oi! Oi!

Whoopwhoop! I’m glad u shared ur angst. It beats pretending it doesn’t exist. I’m gonna channel mine into exercise & dope ass music. smile

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April 9, 2017
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I will say that of your diatribes I’ve read, this is the one I enjoyed the most. Then again I’m the type of nerdy who loves a good gonzo fan theory. You seem to have taken my past advice seriously when it comes to breaking down facts- its not perfect, but who is. (On the flip side, who the fuck am I? Fuck me and my candy ass editorial standards!)

I don’t think things are as serious as you think, though. All parties involved are grown men with children and invested business interests that they could not stand to benefit from if they were dead or arrested. When Myzery called Psy Radio to talk his shit, it resulted in George calling Psychopathic using lawerly type language- that ain’t thug. Tech N9ne got on a beat to demand an apology, not a gangland execution. He’s also the head of his own empire, he’s not gonna draw a line in the sand with blood over some tenuous connections to a pair of young rappers he’s never even worked for. Stripped to their skeletons, these various feuds amount to an Internet Sissy Fight writ large, with the most diehard fans on any side of the equation following suit. This has more in common with the brothers from Oasis or David Lee Roth or Axl Rose than it does with Badboy and fuckin’ Death Row 

April 9, 2017
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But it’s a dead horse now.

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April 10, 2017
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He thinks AMB have Blood ties because they wear red. The fuck is he talking about, red is the juggalo gang color according to some juggalo I met on the bus. Black and red, juggalo gang colors.

April 11, 2017
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Pffffft. We’re not a gang, I read a t-shirt once that told me so.

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April 11, 2017
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King Lucem Ferre said
He thinks AMB have Blood ties because they wear red. The fuck is he talking about, red is the juggalo gang color according to some juggalo I met on the bus. Black and red, juggalo gang colors.  

Bloods members identify themselves through various gang indicators such as colors, clothing, symbols, tattoos, jewelry, graffiti, language, and hand signs. The Bloods gang color is red. They like to wear sports clothing, including team jackets that show their gang color. Some of their favorite teams include the San Francisco 49ers, the Philadelphia Phillies, and the Chicago Bulls. They are also known to wear Dallas Cowboys clothing, whose logo contains a five-pointed star.

The most commonly used Bloods symbols include the number “5”, the five pointed star, and the five pointed crown. These symbols are meant to show the Bloods’ affiliation with the People Nation, a large coalition of affiliates created to protect alliance members within the federal and state prison systems. These symbols may be seen in the tattoos, jewelry, and clothing that gang members wear as well as in gang graffiti, which is used by the Bloods to mark their territory. Such graffiti can include gang names, nicknames, declaration of loyalty, threats against rival gangs, or a description of criminal acts in which the gang has been involved. Bloods graffiti might also include the word “Piru” which refers to the fact that the first known Bloods gang was formed by individuals from Piru Street in Compton, California.

Finally, Bloods graffiti might include rival gang symbols (particularly those of the Crips) that are drawn upside down. This is meant as an insult to the rival group and its symbols. Bloods members also have a unique slang. Bloods greet each other using the word “Blood” and often avoid using words with the letter “C”. Finally, Bloods use hand signs to communicate with one another. Hand signs may be a singular movement, like the American Sign Language letter “B”, or a series of movements using one or both hands for more complex phrases. United Blood Nation (UBN) or East Coast Bloods initiates often receive a dog paw mark, represented by three dots often burned with a cigarette, on their right shoulder. Other UBN symbols include a bulldog and a bull.[3]

April 12, 2017
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Okay, but by your own assertion you ‘know’ AMB has ties to the Bloods based on outfits you’ve seen them wear, and fail to back up this claim with anything substantial. If there’s all of these potential tells, something else ought to exist to bolster your claim. A photo of them throwing a sign or a tattoo. Even then it’s circumstantial, but a series of coincidences is better evidence than one. Not only is that dicey ground to stand on when leveraging an accusation at anyone, it’s also an example of lazy and speculative profiling that causes trouble for innocent people, including Juggalos. 

I submit that you, in fact, do not “know” anything about who AMB has associations with. Rather, this is a conclusion you have jumped to based on your own prejudices. I’m not saying that you are, but this method of thinking is fundamentally stupid and dangerous.

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