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9:21 pm
April 16, 2014
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Serious question: for you personally, how much- if any- shit are you willing to let go from someone just because they’re fam?
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9:29 pm
December 27, 2015
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Idk … Good question … I personally tryn stay positive so as long as my boundaries are respected … What kinda shit we talkin?
9:40 pm
April 16, 2014
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Split1open said
Idk … Good question … I personally tryn stay positive so as long as my boundaries are respected … What kinda shit we talkin?
Well, thats what I’m askin 
I hear ya tho.
Let me give some examples:
Somebody who’s a little bit racist
Somebody who loses their temper too often and causes problems
Somebody who keeps borrowing money and never pays it back
Somebody who’s not a bad person but is really annoying a lot of the time
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May 22, 2012
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DrFreshness said
Serious question: for you personally, how much- if any- shit are you willing to let go from someone just because they’re fam?
if you mean family as in actual family… a lot, but there are definitely limits. family should never fuck around with those limits, cuz thats some of the worst tragedy.
if you mean, fam as in juggalo ‘fam’… quite a bit less. more than the average schmoe, i spose, but im not doin em any favors.
[addendum edit]
Let me give some examples:
let me use those examples as examples:
Somebody who’s a little bit racist
a ‘little bit’…? assumin they dont do anything thats actively racist… give em a lot of shit.
Somebody who loses their temper too often and causes problems
on occasion, im one of these, and i know that too many of us in one place can be not good.
Somebody who keeps borrowing money and never pays it back
it is impossible to borrow money from me if you aint paid your debts down. you gets no charity, no bets, no loans, no shorts, no nothin that involves my money.
Somebody who’s not a bad person but is really annoying a lot of the time
thats everyone.
seriously, this is usually easy to put up with. once in a while somebody barks at em, and they realize what theyre doin, and cool it.
unless of course, they are doin it deliberately, in which case, fuck em.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
10:25 pm
April 16, 2014
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scruffy said
DrFreshness said
Serious question: for you personally, how much- if any- shit are you willing to let go from someone just because they’re fam?if you mean family as in actual family… a lot, but there are definitely limits. family should never fuck around with those limits, cuz thats some of the worst tragedy.
if you mean, fam as in juggalo ‘fam’… quite a bit less. more than the average schmoe, i spose, but im not doin em any favors.
Well I mean the latter, and specifically just how much more than the average schmoe?
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10:39 pm
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May 22, 2012
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DrFreshness said
specifically just how much more than the average schmoe?
i dunno. twenty percent…?
hard to quantify. too subjective. need context.
but the example examples are a start, anyway.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
10:56 pm
February 13, 2015
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Good question.
One of the big ones to me I guess is the gathering. I came to realize that I hate festivals but I love and tolerate the gathering cuz there’s a catch. My peoples is there. I want to be there. But I ain’t going to no other festival. No thank u. Tolerate ain’t the word cuz I love every min of it. We’ll 99%
i guess what I’m getting out of this shit is yeah I feel that sense of “family” and I’ll take them for who they are. And this place really taught how to accept ppl for who they are. I really do love the juggalos. I thought I didn’t judge before but I did. I do. I’ve never had to be in a place where I wasn’t related but wasn’t walking away. So i can take a lot but I have my boundaries.
Buuuuuuutttt i try to use this biased love and transcend it to the rest of the world. At least the world around me.
Examples I guess u guys summed it up.
how about getting something thrown at you? U do that shit anywhere else and I going to at least TRY to whoop ur ass.
If I think ur racist or what ever other thing I don’t really care if know I think that and I don’t want to change u. I’ll rather leave u in ur nasty whole and let ur kids take the pay for what u are.
if I give a fuck about u I’ll say something. U best believe that.
But when im around juggalos I ain’t thinking about shit like that.
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10:58 pm
December 3, 2012
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I can be admittedly passive aggressive when someone I care about steps on my toes. I tend to let things build up and when I finally do snap I’m the one who looks like an asshole.
I got one to add to that. How do yall deal with that one friend who constantly loves to argue over menial shit? They never back down and somehow always leave the burden of proof on you even if you didn’t bring up the subject in the first place. That shit leaves me drained.
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11:03 pm
February 13, 2015
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Slumerican502 said
I can be admittedly passive aggressive when someone I care about steps on my toes. I tend to let things build up and when I finally do snap I’m the one who looks like an asshole.
I got one to add to that. How do yall deal with that one friend who constantly loves to argue over menial shit? They never back down and somehow always leave the burden of proof on you even if you didn’t bring up the subject in the first place. That shit leaves me drained.
All I can do with these people is be as blunt as I can step foot down and make sure they know I’m coming from love. Like i tell them ur just arguing with me cuz ur mad. We’ll that shit works for me because that’s the shit that works for me.
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11:05 pm
February 13, 2015
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I tried to correct some of my typos but god damn……
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11:07 pm
December 3, 2012
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I guess I’m a lot more hard headed than you XD. I can back down from an argument that is factual if I’m proven wrong (Google is a godsend when it comes to this) but if its an argument on whether or not scarface is an overrated movie or the best kind of cereal I have a lot of trouble backing down from that. Especially if I’m being told that my opinion is dumb.
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11:19 pm
April 16, 2014
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scruffy said
DrFreshness said
specifically just how much more than the average schmoe?i dunno. twenty percent…?
hard to quantify. too subjective. need context.
but the example examples are a start, anyway.
Ha ha, our posts got crossed… just lookin for a little more elaboration on your first response, which you gave in your post about the examples, thanks.
I think what I’m driving at is, being part of the juggalo world has given me an appreciation for the idea that you need to cut people some slack and let them be who theyre gonna be and accept them for that, even if who they are is a pain in the ass sometimes. which in turn has led me to reflect on some of the non-juggalo people ive cut out of my life at various points in time. Some of em were dickheads and deserved it no doubt. But others- who might have fucked up or been pains in the asses somehow, but like @split1open put it weren’t disrespecting boundaries- maybe I should have been more accepting. In fact ive found myself getting back in touch with a couple of those people recently, didnt really put two and two together as to why until i just started thinking about it.
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11:19 pm
February 13, 2015
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Slumerican502 said
I guess I’m a lot more hard headed than you XD. I can back down from an argument that is factual if I’m proven wrong (Google is a godsend when it comes to this) but if its an argument on whether or not scarface is an overrated movie or the best kind of cereal I have a lot of trouble backing down from that. Especially if I’m being told that my opinion is dumb.
I do that to but I get away with it more often than not. So it’s only in retrospect that I think how much of an ass I am. Most of the time.
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11:26 pm
February 13, 2015
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I want to silently accept and what not but sometimes sadly cuz I’m some sort of fucken Peter Pan surrounded by lost boys that staying quiet can lead to such dramatic sounding things as death. Basically u gotta let ur family know when they’re fucking off. And know when to shut the fuck up and realize that ur emotions and thoughts arnt the biggest thing in the room.
I speak up if I give a fuck cuz I had to many people slip thru my fingers cuz I didn’t say anything. To scared to loosem and I’m never doing that again. At least u can have one honest thing in ur life. Even if it’s and asshole.
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11:33 pm
April 16, 2014
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bayAreaShaman said
Good question.One of the big ones to me I guess is the gathering. I came to realize that I hate festivals but I love and tolerate the gathering cuz there’s a catch. My peoples is there. I want to be there. But I ain’t going to no other festival. No thank u. Tolerate ain’t the word cuz I love every min of it. We’ll 99%
i guess what I’m getting out of this shit is yeah I feel that sense of “family” and I’ll take them for who they are. And this place really taught how to accept ppl for who they are. I really do love the juggalos. I thought I didn’t judge before but I did. I do. I’ve never had to be in a place where I wasn’t related but wasn’t walking away.
Yeah, like that. I got love for juggalos, I can’t really explain why, and that makes me feel a whole lot less judgemental towards juggalos that I normally would towards people. And then that makes me think maybe I should be a whole lot less judgemental in general, or at least to a few people who I know would appreciate having me back around.
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11:35 pm
July 6, 2014
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For me, quite a bit more than non-juggalos.
And I just started to explain why that is, but my sentences quickly turned into paragraphs, and I could write a frickin essay on the topic. Which I may one day, but really, it’s similar to explaining why it is we call ourselves family in the first place, and explaining that takes away from the magic.
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JC said
For me, quite a bit more than non-juggalos.
And I just started to explain why that is, but my sentences quickly turned into paragraphs, and I could write a frickin essay on the topic. Which I may one day,
maybe you should.
but really, it’s similar to explaining why it is we call ourselves family in the first place, and explaining that takes away from the magic.
maybe.
explanation also leads to understanding, which is a whole other kind of magic.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
2:46 pm
March 10, 2016
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I will be honest right here I am one of those annoying guys. I like to have fun and take nothing seriously out side of work. My attitude as that annoying guy is simple. If they tell me I will “try” and tone it down. If they react and join in I turn it up and have a blast with it.
I also try to read people and see where they are coming from. Examples:
I give krunk shit because she can take it and gets right back at it 100%. She hits hard and is good at dishing out.
However with someone like scruffy(no offense bro). He is more of a low key type and although he jokes some he definitely avoids the kiddy shit and if you go at him too much he might get pissed or simply avoid you which is not cool either way. So with him I am more serious with a little joking or just have a genuine convo.
Everyone is different bro. Take each case separately. Most annoying people are not bad. Most of us are just craving a “positive/fun” social life. Like me I have to hear terrible stories all day long by children who were abused one way or another. So I come chill with you guys on here for fun and to release my depression. I never intend to piss someone off to that point. Trust me I was locked up for a while over my anger and I know violence gets me no where and it sure as hell doesn’t prove I am a “Big” man. Actually it proves I am a scumbag. Yes, I said it physical violence=bad.
But definitely take every case as it comes and if it ever comes to blows make sure it had to happen. Don’t just cold clock someone who doesn’t want to fight. I have seen people get shot over stupid shit like that. Sometimes that guy you beat up carries. Try to accept people as they are and if they are too much for you avoid them.
(Also if I ever am pissing someone off to that point. Please just tell me in PM or if it is in person just take me aside. I realize I am not perfect and I don’t want to ruin anyones day)
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December 27, 2015
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Nyro said
I will be honest right here I am one of those annoying guys. I like to have fun and take nothing seriously out side of work. My attitude as that annoying guy is simple. If they tell me I will “try” and tone it down. If they react and join in I turn it up and have a blast with it.I also try to read people and see where they are coming from. Examples:
I give krunk shit because she can take it and gets right back at it 100%. She hits hard and is good at dishing out.
However with someone like scruffy(no offense bro). He is more of a low key type and although he jokes some he definitely avoids the kiddy shit and if you go at him too much he might get pissed or simply avoid you which is not cool either way. So with him I am more serious with a little joking or just have a genuine convo.
Everyone is different bro. Take each case separately. Most annoying people are not bad. Most of us are just craving a “positive/fun” social life. Like me I have to hear terrible stories all day long by children who were abused one way or another. So I come chill with you guys on here for fun and to release my depression. I never intend to piss someone off to that point. Trust me I was locked up for a while over my anger and I know violence gets me no where and it sure as hell doesn’t prove I am a “Big” man. Actually it proves I am a scumbag. Yes, I said it physical violence=bad.
But definitely take every case as it comes and if it ever comes to blows make sure it had to happen. Don’t just cold clock someone who doesn’t want to fight. I have seen people get shot over stupid shit like that. Sometimes that guy you beat up carries. Try to accept people as they are and if they are too much for you avoid them.
(Also if I ever am pissing someone off to that point. Please just tell me in PM or if it is in person just take me aside. I realize I am not perfect and I don’t want to ruin anyones day)
Pretty well said
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Split1open said
Nyro said
I will be honest right here I am one of those annoying guys. I like to have fun and take nothing seriously out side of work. My attitude as that annoying guy is simple. If they tell me I will “try” and tone it down. If they react and join in I turn it up and have a blast with it.I also try to read people and see where they are coming from. Examples:
I give krunk shit because she can take it and gets right back at it 100%. She hits hard and is good at dishing out.
However with someone like scruffy(no offense bro). He is more of a low key type and although he jokes some he definitely avoids the kiddy shit and if you go at him too much he might get pissed or simply avoid you which is not cool either way. So with him I am more serious with a little joking or just have a genuine convo.
Everyone is different bro. Take each case separately. Most annoying people are not bad. Most of us are just craving a “positive/fun” social life. Like me I have to hear terrible stories all day long by children who were abused one way or another. So I come chill with you guys on here for fun and to release my depression. I never intend to piss someone off to that point. Trust me I was locked up for a while over my anger and I know violence gets me no where and it sure as hell doesn’t prove I am a “Big” man. Actually it proves I am a scumbag. Yes, I said it physical violence=bad.
But definitely take every case as it comes and if it ever comes to blows make sure it had to happen. Don’t just cold clock someone who doesn’t want to fight. I have seen people get shot over stupid shit like that. Sometimes that guy you beat up carries. Try to accept people as they are and if they are too much for you avoid them.
(Also if I ever am pissing someone off to that point. Please just tell me in PM or if it is in person just take me aside. I realize I am not perfect and I don’t want to ruin anyones day)
Pretty well said
Glad it made sense to you. I saw my brother killed in a situation that was over some dumb shit so I know how these things can escalate. I even have 8 fake discs in my back from the same encounter and I know for sure I usually have a defensive tool simply because I can not defend myself well anymore. I was 13 years old when that happened. All over some random trash talking. But the thing is violence is never an answer unless you are defending yourself. If you go into a situation with violence and anger on your mind you become a asshole who honestly deserves whatever they get. No one should ever dislike someone so much that they wish them bodily harm. Not to mention the time you will serve for the assault is a waste of life and you never know who you are assaulting: For instance someone who assaults me would not know of my back issues and handicap just looking at me but then when it came to court they would get slapped with assault on a physically disabled individual which is a felony and will definitely get them 10+ years easily.
I always try to promote peaceful resolution. there are too many factors in every situation to consider. Anyone that has ever escaped a bad situation of crime and gangs would know that violence is never the appropriate answer.
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