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The R.O.C. Speaks on Psychopathic / MNE “Beef”; Violent J Reacts [Updated with Monoxide’s Response]

Update [05/20/18 @ 1:16 PM CST]: Shortly after my initial post, I was able to catch last night’s “Smoke Sesh” with Monoxide on Twiztid’s Facebook.  Someone asked about R.O.C.’s statements concerning the beef, and he had a lot to say about it.  A majority of his 30 minute smoke session talked about the status of Juggalos, what he considers “family”, MNE, Psychopathic, and a lot more.  You can watch the entire video here:

Original Post: With all of the drama that seems to dominate social media these days, particularly in the underground, it’s good to see some positivity surface.  This time, it was The R.O.C. who took a few minutes to speak about the “beef” between Majik Ninja Entertainment and Psychopathic Records.  Just to set the record straight, this video actually isn’t all that new.  I reached out to The R.O.C. who confirmed that it was from a year or two ago, but the sentiment remains the same.  You can see that below:

I’m guessing that this video has been reuploaded and shared by Juggalos looking to spread some love and positivity during these seemingly toxic times.

Not long after this video surfaced, Violent J tweeted the following:


The R.O.C. responded a few times since this tweet, first saying this:


Then, he went into further detail stating the following:

Listen… Here is what I want to explain. It is OK for PSY & MNE to waggle our genitals/represent our labels without it being a direct conflict or diss to one another. In today’s music game it seems so hard for people to understand that! It’s like a child only allowing themselves to play with one friend and excluding the other potential friend. Why not have a bunch of friends/family? And the ones that destroy that vibe kick’em to the curb. @tweetmesohardmentioned about the DCG con on their Facebook page. And from what a friend of mine #kegan told me, he #robbruce & @icp had a positively impactful #psyradio show. None of them had to do any of that shit but they did. We have to get the ball rolling somewhere. So no I’m not signing with Psy or Twiztid ain’t resigning there or ICP signing to MNE. To all the Juggalos/Ninjas/Fans, This is how you do grown folk shit! Grown ass men doing grown ass men shit! #spreadthelove

For as long as I’ve known him, the R.O.C. has never been about any negativity or drama.  Kegan mentioned that R.O.C. even reached out to him prior to the Juggalo March to wish him the best of luck.  The same happened to me, and that seemed to be when tensions were at their highest.  Maybe this will be the catalyst to get both sides talking.

Let’s hear what you have to think about the statements from both sides.  Are you on board with starting this healing process to reunite the underground?



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    Faygoluvers Comments

  1. Hypnotized Ninja

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 01:13 pm GMT -5 at 1:13 pm

    Comment section is lit when it’s a positive post. To me this is great and one of many steps needed to not necessarily reunite but to just be civil and stop the animosity

  2. Lilej2

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 01:27 pm GMT -5 at 1:27 pm

    FLH y’all are behind again. That video is not what started all this. It’s what Kegan said about ROC on The Juggalo Show this past week that started all this

  3. Hypnotized Ninja

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 03:02 pm GMT -5 at 3:02 pm

    That was covered in the Juggalo Show posts summary bullet points

  4. SpOOky J

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 01:42 pm GMT -5 at 1:42 pm

    A lot of you who will read this understand- the only reason I give MNE so much crap is becuz I am a Juggalo of 16 years, ninja of 18. Since Bizaar/Bizzar Era. Twiztid meant everything to me. I always say sarcastically “Until January 19th, 2017” with VERY sarcastic undertones, but it’s kind of true in the sense that yes, both groups are known to be assholes, but as we all know, it’s the presentation of the matter. J gave us 2 detailed hours of everthing. Mad. & Mono. Gave us 3 minutes of garbage. I’m not saying that Twiztid needs to give us THAT long of an explanation, but it’s how they went and are still going about themselves. I don’t like it as a Juggalo, fan, or person. So the point I’m making with this novel of a post is this- Until Twiztid themselves personally come out and say that reconcialiton is in order, I won’t believe it. Thanx Twiztid for one last DL album, but there are Juggalos out there who like gratuitous detail. And acting like children isn’t appealing from either side. Until things are OFFICIALLY mended, there will always be some not so neutral people taking one side or the other. That is all. Peace out.

  5. Bonesaw Wizardstick

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 01:51 pm GMT -5 at 1:51 pm

    “Oh shit! Before I forget, I wanna send a Happy Birthday out to Riah Jernigan of Tuscon, AZ.” I love it, lol

  6. Caligreen2Fresh

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 02:34 pm GMT -5 at 2:34 pm

    Og code meaning there could ve a hit out on him

  7. Hypnotized Ninja

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 03:01 pm GMT -5 at 3:01 pm

    That was covered in the Juggalo Show post in the summary bullet points.

  8. Hypnotized Ninja

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 03:03 pm GMT -5 at 3:03 pm

    Whoops meant to reply to Lilej2 not…duplicate post my bad

  9. Gorey Corey

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 03:08 pm GMT -5 at 3:08 pm

    yo spooky j how did they “go about themselves?” all they did was keep it moving and distanced themselves from that, that’s why the response was so short because they made the decision to practice some restraint even tho they were pissed, and probably hurt by that type of slandering more than anything.
    besides the two diss tracks that came out, the main problem is us (juggalos especially the youtube guy) fighting with one another about it. how many times must monoxide say there’s no beef? that he wants no beef? because he’s said that shit way more than anyone else out there and for some reason juggalos just hate the guy and will take anything he says and spin it.
    and people can claim “subliminals” all they want but that’s up to interpretation and if you’re hearing beef beef beef on all their tracks then maybe it’s you who wants juggalos divided up so don’t blame him.

  10. Robocop

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 03:57 pm GMT -5 at 3:57 pm

    Everybody just dont like monoxide. They feel some kind of way about him and no matter what hes a bad guy. They kept it moving and decided to not talk shit but i did hear some sneak dissess in reponse to violent J dissess but thats expected. Monoxide is a juggalo for life. He said that ish and im not turning my back on them. Hes building the juggalo world and giving down ass yoing juggalo artist opportunity to represent and shine and magic ninja records is the perfect name and extention to the name juggalo. Juggalos have been chanting that for years.

  11. mikeysinder

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 10:50 pm GMT -5 at 10:50 pm

    kept it moving and decided to not talk shit?? riiiight that’s because they knew the cameras were rolling, they’re more than happy to talk shit and beef it up as long as they’re not being recorded, notice when theyre not being recorded (or don’t think they are) they talk mad shit, there is beef, just because Monoxide states there isn’t doesnt make it so, what so things are all cool between ICP and twiztid? bulllshiiiiitt

  12. Robocop

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 06:20 am GMT -5 at 6:20 am

    Are you 12 years old? If so i get you but if your over 18 then somethings wrong with you but God bless you lil mikey.

  13. mikeysinder

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 10:56 pm GMT -5 at 10:56 pm

    lol Robocop clearly ran out of logic and sound argument so he just asked me about my age lol they clearly talk plenty of shit, I point it out, and you dodge the issue, nice one. No I’m over 18 so you can’t kidnap me in your van Robocop, sorry to dissapoint.

  14. iINhaleCHEMtrails

    Comment posted on Tuesday, May 22nd, 2018 11:47 pm GMT -5 at 11:47 pm

    I love mono but the dudes a conniving asshole piece of shit kinda guy. He says there’s no beef but then puts out a song like cut em up haha and it aint even subliminal

  15. pondo

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 03:12 pm GMT -5 at 3:12 pm

    @SpOOky J
    feel ya homie. I DONT WANT TO pick a side, but mono’s bubbling bullshit drove me into it. Like Michael Hasler from the Facebook comment section pointed out, mono lied in the video above. Not one single drop of confession of guilt. I dont wanna blame Twiztid for the whole beef, fuck no. But as being sad, they contributed to the beef, and mono’s insisting denying of this just annoys me. There were too many lil jabs here and there, I have no clue how he’s able to say something like “we weren’t pressing that issue, they put us in a defensive position”. it’s just passive-aggressive bullshit.

  16. Gorey Corey

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 03:43 pm GMT -5 at 3:43 pm

    yo pondo twiztid have said since this all started there’s no beef and doesn’t want anything to with it. what jabs? are you talking about? something that they rapped about that you assumed was a diss towards icp?
    you gotta remember that ICP put out that interview and a music video dissing them, so yeah they were put in a defensive position. it’s not passive aggressive. mono’s out here all the time talking real talk. if you can point out anything he’s lied about here we can discuss it.

  17. iINhaleCHEMtrails

    Comment posted on Tuesday, May 22nd, 2018 11:54 pm GMT -5 at 11:54 pm

    Kicking people out of their shows
    The fag song
    Billboard charting

    You can start with those…

  18. E

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 04:35 pm GMT -5 at 4:35 pm

    This is fresh!!!
    I can’t wait till we (all!) move past this bullshit beef and get back to the family. For juggalos by juggalos and fuck the rest of the world….
    I need more Lotus y’all.
    I love you fuckers….
    -E .. MCL fam!

  19. 505303

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 05:09 pm GMT -5 at 5:09 pm

    That Monoxide video was a waste of time. He just made it all about twiztid talking out his ass as usual. “The word juggalo is never associated Twiztid and that’s fucked up” WTF? Monoxide is just hoping now MNE n Twiztid can start making that juggalo money again. He don’t care about juggalos the drama or what ever he just cares to get that juggalo $. PROPS TO R.OC. and J for being 100

  20. Gorey Corey

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 05:37 pm GMT -5 at 5:37 pm

    How did you come to that conclusion? And what statements made do you consider talking out of his ass?

  21. 505303

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 05:54 pm GMT -5 at 5:54 pm

    That’s all he does is talk out his ass just talks shit constantly. Just rambles on with no point that video proves it.

  22. 505303

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 05:56 pm GMT -5 at 5:56 pm

    The whole “we don’t got beef” paved the way for my ON POINT conclusion.

  23. Gorey Corey

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 06:12 pm GMT -5 at 6:12 pm

    You know these Facebook live streams are basically him shootin the shit with the fans, most of the time he’s responding to the chatroom. I still don’t see how it’s talking out of his ass he’s giving his honest opinions about his real life, he also wants juggalos to grow in a positive direction. If you don’t think that that’s good and you don’t want to hear the inside info then there’s something else going on here that has nothing to do with what he’s talking about. It’s like juggalos hate him with no valid reason they’ll watch his vids to get themselves pissed off and in the meantime missing out on the dope shit going down

    And no they don’t got beef, psy is angry at them and their stance is fuck that we’re gonna keep doing what we do ain’t got time for a beef that was started over petty ass reasons. So ur conclusion on them wanting psy back to get juggalo money is off they’re doing their own thing and succeeding at it. They want juggalos to stop beefing with each other

  24. FuckmeFuck

    Comment posted on Sunday, May 20th, 2018 10:54 pm GMT -5 at 10:54 pm

    Monoxide is a bitch.

  25. ElectroheadDante

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 02:19 am GMT -5 at 2:19 am

    Shaving your testicles can be a very tricky ordeal but if you pull the skin back and flat just the right way it’s easy-going.

  26. MuffinMessiah17

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 02:51 am GMT -5 at 2:51 am

    We’ve just got to come to the understanding that some people are just idiots…. “fuck Mono…” at every turn….. I would love a detailed excuse for what the fuck Twiztif have done exactly? Nearly ALL the shit talking has been FROM Psy, while Twiztid just don’t address the issue and take it in stride (short of a couple little jabs here and there, mostly passive agressive type shit) and some of y’all are just salty towards them regardless, on some “bit the hand that fed them” shit…..

    Twiztid helped build Psy into the power house it once was, and anybody who denies that fact are either idiots or have their heads buried so far up their own arrogant ass they’ve run out of oxygen and have suffered retardation…… they pulled their weight…. no hand outs…..

    Nearly everybody who has been signed to Psy in the past has an issue with the label…. isn’t it at least possible that ICP are just assholes on a business level?

  27. Gorey Corey

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 03:23 am GMT -5 at 3:23 am

    MuffinMessiah thank you someone here has logic I’m battling these Facebook fools up here and getting exhausted I’m Juan in that comment section but damn this positive article is turning into a shitshow because no matter what they hate monoxide and they can’t give any valid reasons why. Thank you for being logical on here props

  28. jiggles the clown

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 08:27 am GMT -5 at 8:27 am

    the truth is, most people who hate Mono. Like the vast fucking majority of them, are mindless little cunts who’re too stupid to think for themselves, so they let violent J think for them.

    How many times have we seen these dumbasses parrot J’s “little hitler” line like they’re super fucking clever for saying it?

    J is the one putting out disses, J is the one who declared dark lotus and the ryders dead. J is the fucking instigator. But since he’s the fucking cult leader to these dumb fucks, he can do no wrong, he says it’s Mono’s faults so they go hate on mono.

  29. scruffy

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 11:03 am GMT -5 at 11:03 am

    didnt watch the video, cuz im assuming its the same or similar to the ones that came out before the march.
    but hey, lets all write a paragraph or three about how we have more or less completely missed rocs point!
    be sure to make it clear to the reader whether you consider violent j or monoxide child to be the big bitchy bastard, thats real important. apparently.

  30. Lilej2

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 11:41 am GMT -5 at 11:41 am

    It’s so stupid and sad a lot of y’all can see J’s tweet, ROC’s post and Monoxide’s video and still wanna talk shit about everyone. Y’all just wanna beef because it excites you and maybe makes you feel young or important or whatever the fuck. But don’t start bitching when there’s always fights, cops or shut downs at our events over some dumb shit. The artists themselves have told us there’s no beef but most of you still wanna beef. So fine. I’m not playing with none of you dumbasses who wanna do that. I’m gonna support Psychopathic and MNE and enjoy all this fresh ass music coming out while y’all act online like the very shit you marched against

  31. Deiko17

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 11:47 am GMT -5 at 11:47 am

    If you wanna accept Twiztid for being back stabbing sell-out bitches, fine. But don’t think those of us who are done with them can’t think for ourselves, are mad about nothing, blah blah blah. You have the right to support both labels, and I have the right to say “FUCK TWIZTID AND MoNEy”!

    No hate towards juggalos who are down with twiztid, but some of yall are gonna have to get over the fact that others have decided to stop listening to them. I gave them a chance after they left for 4 years and they brought nothing new to the game, just repackaged icp’s legacy with a new label. So i’m done, icp for life, have fun selling ninja turtle beanie babies twiztid.

  32. Cherryfuzz

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 02:32 pm GMT -5 at 2:32 pm

    It’s sad. All this drama and violence that happened last weekend at dcgcon is simply a result of the juggalos taking the “beef” amongst themselves . If we just continue being fuckin juggalos and chillin and not take the beef in our own hands, that’s the only way this is gonna sort itself out. Started out a beef btwn the artists, now it’s just juggalos beefing with juggalos and that’s not how it’s supposed to Be.

  33. KMMUD

    Comment posted on Monday, November 25th, 2019 10:11 pm GMT -5 at 10:11 pm

    Amen homie

  34. chops

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 03:31 pm GMT -5 at 3:31 pm

    Who gives a fuck? These are people that make music. Nothing more nothing less. If you enjoy the music, buy the album. If you think a shirt looks cool, buy the shirt. If you think your opinion of so and so selling out matters to the person posting above you, you are a dumb bitch….

  35. Gorey Corey

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 04:06 pm GMT -5 at 4:06 pm

    Scruffys right I know I’m guilty of getting distracted AGAIN my bad this should be about the props given by both sides my bad for the tirade

  36. Guest

    Comment posted on Monday, May 21st, 2018 05:57 pm GMT -5 at 5:57 pm

    Bryan is hands down the most down-to-earth entertainer I have met inside this movement. A class act through and through.

  37. HahahaWooo

    Comment posted on Tuesday, May 22nd, 2018 10:43 am GMT -5 at 10:43 am

    ICP decided to throw a dog a bone. Roc sucks along with the rest of mne

  38. SNAPZ

    Comment posted on Tuesday, May 22nd, 2018 02:40 pm GMT -5 at 2:40 pm

    Positive stuff is good, mmmkay?

  39. FuckmeFuck

    Comment posted on Tuesday, May 22nd, 2018 06:54 pm GMT -5 at 6:54 pm

    I think you’re all bitches. But Paul methric and Jamie spaniolo are the biggest by far

  40. KMMUD

    Comment posted on Monday, November 25th, 2019 10:15 pm GMT -5 at 10:15 pm

    Fuck fuck is definitely a bitch, done overdosed on ball soup and choking on a dick

  41. SmokeTuffff

    Comment posted on Tuesday, May 22nd, 2018 07:53 pm GMT -5 at 7:53 pm

    The R.O.C. is an OG!

  42. Bonesaw Wizardstick

    Comment posted on Tuesday, May 22nd, 2018 08:06 pm GMT -5 at 8:06 pm

    It doesn’t even matter who’s a bitch and who ain’t at this point. Let’s get some song collabos and tours going on.

  43. backstabber

    Comment posted on Tuesday, May 22nd, 2018 09:31 pm GMT -5 at 9:31 pm

    that’s nice Bryan talks about the beef, but the video is over 2 years old! Get over it! MNE and Psy. will never get together!

  44. KMMUD

    Comment posted on Monday, November 25th, 2019 10:09 pm GMT -5 at 10:09 pm

    I dont give a flyin fuck what anyone says. O.G. Juggalo of more than 20 years I’ll keep bangin some twiztid icp abk blaze esham boondocks all that mufuckin wicked shit til the day I fuckin die WHOOP WHOOP

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