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The Dark Tower Series *Spoilers to other king books*
December 4, 2012
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Does anyone still read anymore? llal. If you enjoy a good novel i suggest you check out the dark tower series by Stephen King. Its so epic in scope that the lord of the rings doesn't hold a candle.(and i've read all four including the hobbit). Now King has always had more character driven than plot driven stories, and in that regard I cared about these characters more than any other book i've read(which numbers hundreds). I won't give a synopsis but check it out! you won't be dissapointed

December 4, 2012
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I'm a HUGE King fan but I haven't read these yet. I figured it would be similar to Lord of the Rings; which I enjoy, but I'm still trying to finish reading all of his horror novels first. AHAHHA  Easier said than done. If people don't enjoy his books I couldn't understand how they wouldn't respect the shit out of him for his vast amounts of work. Just trying to read them all is tough enough smile   Imagine trying to write even half of that amount. 

 

I completely agree about him being character driven and that's why I haven't read the first one yet. I'm assuming I'd have to keep going to finish them all after starting the journey. I keep finding myself starting something else, be it his work or not and then forget about them for awhile. 

 

Write now I'm reading "On writing" and it's a fun learning process. Not trying to write a novel, that's for sure but for a shitty low budget script, it can do wonders. 

 

What are your favorite Horror of his? 

 

Pet Cemetery and The Shining are probably my favorite but like I said, quite a few more to go

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December 4, 2012
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Yeah if you start it and love him like I do you wont rest until you finish the last one. Man funny thing is ive been reading king since before i could understand alot of the words he uses and never got into the dark tower until 2011. Read it once last year and once this year. As far as my favorite king books….Really hard one man. "IT" would have to be one of em on the list.

Theres one called"Cell" about a zombie apocalypse thats fuckin dope. He has a recent one from a couple years back called "Under the Dome" which is another story with characters so vibrant that you laugh and cry with them. That and "the stand"would be my favorites

What most people don't know man is that most of his books are connected to the dark tower. Its all a part of one universe. It has characters from the stand , salems lot, insomnia, and alot of his short stories too. Its such a nice suprise to see all these characters you fell in love with show up in this all encompassing UBER story. Id suggest after finishing on writing(never could get ahold of that one) to start the dark tower before moving on to another story. I put everything on it you won't regret it

December 4, 2012
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I remember hearing something about that before. Kinda figured it would be similar to how he mentions or uses the same fantasy places in Maine for different stories. So they're actually apart of the story? That's really cool.

 

I was going to read "IT" after ON WRITING but that will have to wait now. I loved "The Stand" book and didn't really care much for the film, especially the second half. It took me awhile to get into the "IT" movie, but now I dig the shit out of it, so I figured the book is ten times better like they usually are. Haven't read Cell or Under the Dome yet. Pretty well got through most of his early works, including the Bachman books. Those would be up there with the best I've read too. 

 

On Writing is a great read so far. Even if you aren't interested in writing your own fiction, there's a great biography that's part of the book he writes himself. There's also a revised version that's the one you would want if for the educational purposes. 

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December 4, 2012
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Dude I forgot  about the bachman books. "Running Man" and "Rage" both are kick ass novels. I think you can get four of em together in one book. those two "the long walk" and one I can't remember. Yeah the stand and it are really corny as movies lol. they both were actually mini series on tv instead of actual movies.

December 4, 2012
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Dope! I've been looking for "Rage" everywhere and had to download it to read cause of all the shootings it apparently inspired. Just googled the shit out of that and it looks like you can get it for around $50 new on amazon through a different seller. That beats the shit out of the upwards of $500 for a used Rage copy. The other book is is Roadwork

 

Thanks, bro. This will give me at least somewhat of a Rage copy in my collection. Better than nothing laugh

 

There's no way I was paying hundreds of dollars for a used book online that could come with pee stains included. 

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December 4, 2012
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Damn I didn't know you couldn't find it in stores. The book I had came from a local library. Im a cheap motherfucker so I usually go to the dirt mall or the library for books. Unless its something ive been anticipating. I can't believe mother fuckers have the gall to try to sell a used book for 500 bucks. Damn if I woulda stocked up on rage books and boxes of twinkies id be a made man llal

December 4, 2012
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hahahah yea it's craziness. I don't mind used books if I can see them in front of me before the purchase but without knowing the condition, I might as well take the short bus trip to Maine and knock on his door for that price. 

 

"Yo, Steve! I needs me a copy of Rage, man! What do you mean the book makes people go crazy? no wa.....HEY!!! GET BACK HERE!!!"

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December 5, 2012
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You guys are the shit. Stephen king is the fuckin man!!! I'm 33 so I remember when those actually came out. You're doing it at the right time man, you won't have to wait for the next ones to come out like we did. After the fourth, which I believe was Wizard and Glass, there was a peiod of at least 5 years before he put out Wolves of the Calla. He said once he had old women and people on death row writing to him asking to tell them how it turned out, they had to know before they died, they swore to take the secret to the grave. I know that sounds ridiculous but imagine being at deaths door and knowing there's three more novels coming out in a series that you love and that you'll never get to read them. If you read up to part four you'll be able to see what I mean I'm sure, the story is really coming alive after part 4. What was stale though was he couldn't tell them. Not because he wouldn't, he couldn't. He said the story was still unfolding inside his head and even he, the author, still had no idea what was going to happen. One of the things in life I'm grateful for, Igot to read them. I know a lot of King fans, but only 2 other people who read The Dark Tower series. They're amongst my favorites and happy you're enjoying them. They're an experience in themselves.

December 5, 2012
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And you're right about other King novels being connected to the series. Just read Hearts in Atlantis and the first part was all about the breakers, one of 'em got away out of that world and came into ours and they were trying to get him back, it was cool as fuck. I can't help but wonder what the millions of people who read that book but never The Dark Tower series thought about that, it's not obvious if you're unfamiliar. I had read The Dark Tower books so I got it, but probably would've been like, what the fuck? If I didn't. Heart in Atlantis was mostly a book about Vietnam and the 60's, to look at it you wouldn't think the book goes off in the direction that it does, one worth reading if you never got the chance

December 5, 2012
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You guys know some great books, I never read Cell but I definetly will, only a few King books left I haven't read, gotta save a few, you know? If you haven't read them already, The Tommyknockers and Four Past Midnight are great, right up there with The Shing and It. Props on calling out Under the Dome, book was fucking amazing.

December 5, 2012
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Hey pat did you get to read "the wind through the keyhole"? it takes place between wizards and glass and wolves of the calla. But yeah "hearts in atlantis" and the short story "everything is eventual" both shed some light on the "breakers", and the low men in yellow coats from hearts comes into play also. What was your favorite without giving anything too big away for cabal? I loved wizard and glass myself. I woulda loved to have spent more time with cuthbert and alain in that old time before "the world had moved on"

December 5, 2012
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I haven't read the wind through the keyhole, but I do have it. I knew it took place in that time period, but that's about it. My favorite what, Dark Tower book? You probably won't agree, but it's The Drawing of the Three. I know it's not the best, still so much undeveloped and so much still to come, but it's my favorite. The whole cast of that book, while small, is quite insane. The time it came out and the shit that I was going through and the place it took me away to, man, Iread The Drawing of the Three probably about 50 times, one of those books that I just love for whatever reason.

December 5, 2012
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And I feel you on Wizrd and Glass, that book is phenomenal. It was long as hell, yet could really never be long enough. I know exactly what you mean man, you're just the first person I ever heard say it. Some people love King but not The Dark tower, don't know what they're missing do they? I feel bad for them, we get it though haha

December 5, 2012
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I can dig it man I loved  "the drawing of the three" as well. Thats why I started reading in the first place to escape, to be taken away.  all of em are fucking awesome in my opinion. your right tho people really do not know what they are missing out on.

 

Im still holding out hope that the movies get made. Last I heard the studio that made the movie "ted" just picked up the rights. Man what an epic fucking series of movies that would make

December 5, 2012
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It would, but it wouldn't. They're aren't many great King adaptions out there. The shining was the shit, but didn't really follow the book much. The plot was pretty much the same, husband wife shining kid fucked up scary hotel etc, but that's about it. Stanley Kubrick changed around a lot of stuff. I love both versions though, don't get me wrong. But can we call that a true King adaption with so much changed around? Secret Window was good too, not many others. Shawshank Redemption was great but read the story in Different Seasons (great book), and you'll see why I put that in the same category as The Shining. Also, same book, great movie called Apt Pupil. Story is very much like Rage, about a crazy kid.

December 5, 2012
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My point being, don't you think that they would just fuck it up? How much great shit would have to be cut out? Would they get actors that represent what we envision in our head, even come close? I'd watch it, but I have a bad feeling it would go the way of The Stand. There's another huge book they put to film, and that movie fucking blows, I'm sorry. Did the book no favors at all. Look at It, they made a movie about that epic book, but they made it for NBC!!! What the fuckin fuck? That is a horrible movie, bad acting, bad script, bad sets, bad lighting, all around awful. I just see them making a horrible film adaption. I would love to see a good movie, do it like Lord of the Rings and put it out in parts, I don't know what the end result would be. Have a bad feeling it would be more like Dreamcatcher than The Shining on the big screen.

December 5, 2012
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Very very true man most of his adaptations are corny as a motherfucker. I really did enjoy the "storm of the century" "Riding the bullet" and "the mist" adaptations. But yeah movies like "the tommyknockers" "the longoliers" "needful things" don't do his work justice at all

December 5, 2012
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The Mist!!! That was great, totally forgot about that one. Liked that movie a lot, ending was so much better!! Storm of the Century was okay, was made for TV so it is what it is. Read the book/manuscript? Read that and loved it. Man, how fucked up is Stephen King?

December 5, 2012
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 Would they get actors that represent what we envision in our head, even come close?

 

idk about you but  I  always envision Roland to look similar to John Marston from  Red Dead redemption. even though the artwork that came with some of the editions showed Roland with kind of short hair and clean shaven ive always imagined him rugged looking, pocked with scars, and those bombardier eyes... Eddie especially would be a tricky one to cast. Someone who could perfectly embody that quick wit and sarcasm that Eddie is so famous for. I know aaron paul "jesse" from breaking bad said hed love to play eddie,but he isn't what I imagined for him. I Really do think it could be done if done right. I know the original plan was to make movies with a tv series little gets left out.

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