Old Mr Dangerous said

LTB said

LuckyNumbrXIII said From Behind the Paint, he sounded like a conniving douche.  Stole Awesome Dre's feature.  Awesome Dre's a bro too, he still works with ICP and makes good tracks.

Undoubtedly Mountain Climbing is the best track on Crystal Skull IMO and awesome dre murders it. As does J.   and

FreekShit said Esham is the whackest fucking rapper I've ever heard. And on top of that, He's a genuine asshole. Fuck esham to death, He should face a firing squad. 

Fucking finally someone gets it.  

I'd agree that he might be a genuine asshole, I think that he himself is a paranoid schizophrenic or that he just never fully grew up do to being somebody who blew up at the age of 13. Or maybe it's the drugs. He did too much acid.   Ether way, hater & hater.  

^ I agree with everything you theorize here about Esham, @lucem-ferre . He is severely mentally ill. This isn't an excuse for his behavior, however. He literally stole money from hundreds of fans by not sending the products they paid for (I know someone personally whom this happened to). He recorded a verse that is in my mind, unforgivable: 

"Haley's in a coma

Haley's in a coma

I smell the aroma 

of a dead body"

I'm sorry, no matter how much you hate Eminem (and I'm not his biggest fan by a long stretch, believe me), you just do not bring his daughter into the picture. It's the lowest blow, the most evil, underhanded bullshit diss. I've felt this way long before I even had daughters of my own. However, it was effective enough to strike sparks: this verse was likely why he was stomped and beaten by D-12 and others at Warped Tour.

He said in an interview that his disses were his way of "the Senseii smacking down the new student" to keep the student (Em) grounded and recognizing his stance in the pecking order or something. That's understandable, but goddammit Esham deserved that beating for saying that shit. King Gordy crosses the line too, rapping about raping and killing Barack Obama's daughters and shit. The paradox is that that particular "Outro" track by Gordy is one that I enjoy on a level, just for it's extremity, I suppose. It's about as raw a track as I've ever heard. Like "Faces of Death" on a CD. I also enjoy Esham. Quite a bit, in fact. He is nowhere near the whackest rapper ever. Not even close. There is no opinion on that. He could be the "whackest rapper" YOU'VE ever heard, but that just means you should listen to more hip-hop artists for comparison. There's plenty, PLENTY worse rappers. If you hate him because of his seemingly thoughtless actions, then that is understandable. You may not enjoy his voice, swagger, flow, or content, but he has a degree of talent.

Also, I don't love LaveL, but I remember when his daughter passed from a brain disease, "Juggalos" were saying horrible shit about him on internet forums, like how his daughter deserved to die and all that juvenile shit. I can't fathom the fucking ignorance it takes to write something like that. Even as an anonymous douche on the internet, where you can get away with it. No one would say that kind of trash to his face.

For me, like, rapping about it is one thing and actually making threats is another. I do think Esham might have taken it too far since Eminem never really dissed Esham. But with King Gordy he's more for shock value. BTW I was just watching him freestyle that verse last night.

The Warlock said

Cat Burgerler said

either you've never heard Esham at his best in the 90's   (Fallen Angel, Closed Casket, Mama Was a Junkie, No Fault Insurance, Cunt Killer etc.) 

 

i strongly disagree that those are his best 90's songs.. cunt killers the only weak one to me but still... & thats a 2000 song btw..

I agree that cunt killers got silly verses..

"Chop your head off with the AK-47

it was said I'll never get in heaven"

Pretty juvenile. I like the J chorus tho

Cat Burgerler said
Ja rule took it pretty far but didn't cross the line totally   i love this line though

 

 

 

"Em, you say your mothers a crackhead and Kim is a known slut, so what's Haley gonna be when she grows up?"

i remember that shit.. that was ether.. def way harder than anything Em said to ja.. although they (mostly g-unit) put out some good disses..

patjoyce said

Insane Poetry was a group way back in the day, I don't know what happened along the way but it's just one dude now, who is WAY fresher than Esham ever was. 

Insane Poetry is signed to Lyrical Snuff Productions aka SCUM's label.  Cyco aka Psycho is also in a group with SCUM called M.M.M.F.D. (Make My Mother Fucking Day)

The more you know.

Originality, how does that work? 

Anyways Malfoy, it's obvious what you named yourself off of, and others seem to agree. That's enough for me. Also, I thought you said you've been rhyming for over 10 years? Wicked Rappers Delight, the song you claim to have helped shape your persona (however pathetic it may be), is not quite that old. But anyways, I'm just providing proof in the form of details, and I know you have no use for such things as facts. Take your two favorite rap quotes and shove them up your ass Weasley. You don't realize that you close minded!!! Brilliant wordplay!!!!! Brilliant!!!! And talking about putting colons to work, wow!!! Brilliant!!!!! And totally not gay!!!!! Nope 

Funny…..after waiting all that time I would've thought you could've came up with something a little better than "The Warlock." It's very generic.

Creativity, how does that work?

It's the definition of generic. It's the same as calling yourself "The Wizard." Face it, you're generic. You're no name brand. You're 99 cents. You hang out at Dollar Tree and kick it with the juice boxes. 

Fuckin' name brands, how do they work?

patjoyce said
It's the same as calling yourself "The Wizard." 

lol i will say when you put it like that that shit sounds corny as fuck haha... oh well.. :/

I like Esham.

I thought that Warlock got his name from Charlie Sheen.