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Apparently JuggaloCoin is a thing now...
April 14, 2014
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Juggalos Have Their Own Cryptocurrency

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Insane Clown Posse way back in 2003, before cryptocurrencies were a twinkle in the Juggalo's eye.
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If you’re looking to invest your savings in an untraceable digital commodity whose value is based on a complex algorithm, who would you trust more: a shadowy mathematical genius who may or may not be a reclusive model train enthusiast, or guys who think that magnets are magic?
Vicereports that this week will mark a watershed in global monetary history—the launch of JuggaloCoin, the world’s first cryptocurrency intended solely for use by followers of the Insane Clown Posse at the annual gathering of the Juggalos. Writes Drew Millard:

Vendors at the Gathering of the Juggalos to establish relationships that will allow JuggaloCoin to be accepted at the Gathering, which will in turn lead to the official ICP online store to accept JuggaloCoin, which will lead to the entire Juggalo universe dealing in JuggaloCoins.

On JuggaloCoin.org, Papa Nutt, the innovator behind this enterprise, promotes the currency as a means of “keeping funds in the family,” “promoting the positive aspects of the Juggalo lifestyle,” “supporting Juggalo charities,” and “promoting recognition of February 17 as international ‘Juggalo Day.’ ”
Speculators beware, though. Non-Juggalos are not welcome to purchase JuggaloCoin as “that’s basically stealing from the Family.” (Update: Papa Nutt reached out to me via Twitter to clarify that “Non-Juggalos are welcome to buy JuggaloCoin, they just don't get it free.” The headline of this post has been edited to reflect this.)
Like Nakomoto, Papa Nutt’s identity is mysterious. The Daily Dotnotes that the website doesn’t include a contact address and lists his address as “1 Clown Lane.”
It seems quite possible this is all a good joke, but given the purchasing power of the Juggaloes, the Faygo company might want to update its payment system just to be safe.

 

From http://juggalocoin.org/ :

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Concerts and Gathering Of The Juggalos. Each year, over 20,000 Juggalos come together for a weekend-long celebration like no other. “The Gathering of the Juggalos” has been going on for 15 years, and it gets bigger and bigger each year. There are dozens of vendors at the event, and working with these vendors to accept JuggaloCoin is a top priority. We are offering HUGE bounties for the first 3 GOTJ vendors who agree to accept JuggaloCoin (JUG). And we’ll even help them set eveything up -- though it’s not hard to do.

Once we get a couple of vendors on board, the rest will almost certainly follow suit. No one wants to be the one vendor at Gathering of the Juggalos who doesn’t accept JuggaloCoin! And once JuggaloCoin is established among vendors at GOTJ, vendors at other venues across the country will follow suit. Psycopathic Records artists put on hundreds of live shows every year. We believe that soon, you'll be able to spend JuggaloCoins at any of these events.

Online Stores. We’re hoping, of course, that the official ICP “Hatchet Gear” site will begin accepting Juggalo Coins soon. There are lots of other sites that sell Juggalo-related gear as well that would be perfect candidates.

However, Juggalos don’t just buy hatchet man gear online. They buy all kinds of shit, just like everybody else. (Remember, about 1 in 300 Americans are Juggalos.) We plan to apply for inclusion in the CoinPayments.net network after launch. This would make it super easy for any online merchant – whether Juggalo-related or not – to accept Juggalo Coins. We believe strongly in the model being developed by CoinPayments, and I think that within a year or two it will be common for online retailers to accept hundreds of different crypto currencies.

There are 10’s of thousands of online retailers who could see big benefits from accepting JuggaloCoins (JUG).

Sending funds to a Juggalo in need. Juggalos help each other out. When a Juggalo or Jugalette is in need, whether they’re across town, across the country, or around the world, we want to help. JuggaloCoin (JUG) makes it easy.

Person to person sales. Think Craiglist here. A Juggalo might list a sofa for $50 – or a discounted price in Juggalo Coins. Let’s say 25 JuggaloCoins (JUG) . It’s a great way to support the Family.

And of course, Juggalo Coin can be used for any legal person-to-person transaction. However, you should not use Juggalo Coins for illegal purposes. You may think I’m just covering my ass here, but I’m not. I’m deadly serious.

No matter what you might have heard on the interwebs, crypto currency is NOT anonymous. Bitcoin isn’t. Dogecoin isn’t. And Juggalo Coin isn’t. In fact, with all of these currencies, it’s quite the opposite. All transactions are recorded publicly, forever. No, your name is not attached. But it’s a very simple matter for law enforcement to follow the money right to your doorstep.

Yes, there are ways that a sophisticated user can protect their anonymity. But if you’re not a crypto expert and you are involved in the sale of drugs or other shady enterprises, here’s a tip: Use a currency that’s truly anonymous. A currency that’s completely untraceable. A currency that’s the choice of drug dealers worldwide – the United States Dollar.

OK, enough of my rant. Let’s talk about getting these coins into the hands of some Juggalos!

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It’s obviously vital to get these coins into the hands of some Juggalos and Juggalettes for this whole thing to work. However, we’ve seen the coins that are supposedly doing “air drops” to millions of people through some complicated (often vaporware) registration system. They premine a huge 50% of the total coins. It’s a recipe for fraud and a massive pump and dump.

This is NOTHING like that. This is a simple system that will be in place on day 1, and will work. And we’re not trying to immediately put the majority of the coins into circulation. Instead, we will “prime the well” by distributing 470,890 (about 1% of the eventual total) coins directly to Juggalos.

We call it “The Hatchet Drop” and it will take place on Twitter.

The way it works is simple. If you are a Juggalo, you simply tweet your JuggaloCoin (JUG) address along with the hashtags #JuggaloCoin and #Coins4Fam. And provide some visible evidence that you are actually a Juggalo. The best would be having a profile pic of you in facepaint. Holding or wearing hatchet gear works, too. If the request seems legit, we’ll retweet it. We’ll have a bot that’s scanning our account for these retweets, and when it sees them, it will send the coins.

Of course, it’s not really practical for us to process thousands of these by hand. So this is where it gets really interesting. People who have already received their Hatchet Drop coins automatically become “ambassadors” and they are also able to approve up to 10 requests each from other Juggalos simply by retweeting. The bot will look for retweets from them, as well.

So we’ll handle the initial couple of hundred requests, and then there should be plenty of ambassadors to keep things rolling.

We’ve set aside 2,170 allotments of 217 coins each to be distributed through the Hatchet Drop. After the initial allotment is distributed, we will evaluate the program and it’s success in growing the buzz in the Juggalo community. If it’s a big success, as we believe it will be, any coins left over from other activities (like the bounty program) will be allocated for a second wave of the Hatchet Drop in which participants will receive 21.7 coins each.

Is it possible to for a few people to get some coins they don’t deserve?

Well, maybe. But think about it. These are coins that rightfully belong to the Juggalo Family. If someone is pretending to be a Juggalo just to get coins, that’s basically stealing from the Family. PUBLICLY. Trust me, that’s not something you want to do.

 

April 14, 2014
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What?... i really don't understand these virtual currency things...

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April 14, 2014
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1 in 300 americans are juggalos?  no.  

much, much closer to 1 in 3000.  

  

imaginary money may be a cute fad right now, but the whole concept is, in my opinion, rather poorly worked out.  

in this case, the only real benefit i see to juggalocoins, is making the guy that came up with them some free money. 

lookin at it empirically, there will be a total of fifty million coins.  the purchasing power of those coins?  well, their unit cost would be the total cost of acquisition over the number of items.  total cost of acquisition right now is zero.  

0 / 50,000,000 = exploding calculator.  

like every currency, the coins only have value, when all of us decide and agree that they have value;  at that point, this guy is sitting on 49.5 million coins, which cost him nothing, but now can be exchanged for real dollars.  still think he cares about makin it easier for you to buy calzones at the gathering?  

fuck nah.  

even if the thing dies in a week, and the coins are never worth more than a nickel each, he could still be a multimillionaire, without doing anything.  

  

my advice:  dont get these coins, make your own.  theyre equally valid.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 14, 2014
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I didn't read this, but it looks stupid

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April 14, 2014
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Five Questions with Papa Nutt, the Man Behind Juggalo Coins

By , New York | April 11, 2014 2:26 PM EDT

Yesterday news of the the arrival of Juggalo Coin, a cryptocurrency for the Insane Clown Posse's crew known as "The Family," left many journalists wanting to find out more. We wondered about its creator, Papa Nutt -- there seemed no apparent way to contact the person behind all this work and figure out if he was genuine in his ambitions to unite Juggalos the world over with their own brand of remuneration.

Well, we finally got a hold of Papa Nutt and asked him a few questions about his burgeoning project.

Billboard: Where did this idea come from?
Papa Nutt: I've been fascinated with crypto currency for about a year now. I think the biggest hurdle that crypto faces is how to appeal to a broader audience. The more I thought about it, the more I realized that coins targeted toward specific populations are a fantastic way to increase adoption of crypto. And, being a Juggalo, the specific population in this case was pretty obvious.

Can you explain (like I’m 5) the process of creating a cryptocurrency?
A crypto currency starts out like a blank ledger. "Miners" (computers running specialized programs) work on solving a puzzle, and whoever solves it first gets some coins, and that is recorded in the ledger. In this case, lets say Jim is the first to solve it, and so he gets the "block reward" (in this case 500 coins) and his ownership of those coins is recorded in the official ledger.

Then all the miners begin working on solving the next puzzle. In the meantime, let's say Jim wants to transfer 200 of his joins to Bob. He submits the transfer to the network of miners. When a miner solves the current puzzle, his computer automatically records Bob's transaction on the ledger. And that miner himself gets 500 coins.

What assurances can you give the average Juggalo that this isn’t a scam?
For the average Juggalo, there's zero risk of being scammed since they can get in for free. Just download your wallet on 4/20 and then follow the Hatchet Drop instructions. You'll see that it's for real, and it won't cost you a dime. You literally have nothing to lose.

For those who see the potential here and are considering buying in to the Insane Coin Posse, I would suggest taking a good look at our website. I think you'll see that we have a very well thought-out plan that actually makes sense. We've done the hard part, so what incentive would their be for us not to follow through?

However, if that's not enough to provide 100% confidence, I understand. That's why we are working with a third-party escrow service. If we don't deliver, buyers get their money back.

Have you heard from Psychopathic Records? [As mentioned in our story yesterday, we did hear from a source at Psychopathic, who said they have no connection to Juggalo Coin.]
Nope.  But I can tell you we are NOT going to be assholes about this. If they have a problem with something we are doing, we will work with them to make it right.  

However, I really don't think it will be a problem since JuggaloCoin is about promoting the positive aspects of the Juggalo community. And God knows we could use that.

What’s your favorite song?
Hard to say, but let's go with "Juggalo Homies"

April 14, 2014
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papa nutt. ha

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April 14, 2014
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All you nned to know is that it's a scam. ALL "crypto-coin" crap is a scam. It only came into existence to facilitate the Silk Road so that international drug dealers could operate. Just cuz "bit coin" has shown up on the stock markets didn't change its ability to have been robbed blind by some chinese guy for millions (look it up. Millions of dollars of bitcoins "disappeared" ie SCAM).

Not to mention, there's no way JuggaloCoin is going to help anyone in need. Grocery stores and credit card companies and people collecting RENT aren't gonna take JuggaloCoins. The only possible use would be as some kind of replacement for gift cards or gift certificates for *merchandise.

Money is money is money. No one has to worry about its trade-in value or how much of the $1 in "coin" they're actually going to get back because whoever runs the Bit/JuggaloCoin gets a cut...

Fuck this shit. IT'S A SCAM!!!!

*If they have a problem with something we are doing, we will work with them to make it right.*

Like how that was worded? You shouldn't be. That right there is the words of a scammer. "We will work with them to make it right". Does that sound like anything close to saying, "If they don't like it, we'll stop."? No, that's a dickish way of saying we're gonna do whatever the fuck we wanna. Sounds like patent troll bullshit to me. How would that response fly if the "something we're doing wrong" is "We don't want you using Juggalos or the Juggalo culture in any way with this project of yours."?

I bet you a MILLION JuggaloCoins the response would be something like, "Well you don't own the term "juggalo" so we can use it as we see fit". I guaran-fuckin-tee you!!!

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a token of economic psychology:  

  

when investing in money markets, the key focus of any other investor will always be the currency that they use to buy food.  

anything else, is just a way to make more of that same currency.  

  

this nutt guy, and anyone else who involves themselves in these imaginary coins, are just looking to turn them into dollars.  or, at the absolute best, use them for goods or services at a discounted rate verses the dollar, thus saving dollars.  

either way, its about getting other peoples dollars, the 'coin' is inherently valueless.  

  

also, the puzzle analogy shows you what a scam it is.  because, you see, thats what really goes on;  you wouldnt be spending these things, youd be trying to generate them by jumping through the hoops that are required.  guess who sets up the hoops.  

  

and cheshyr is correct, if it wasnt for black and grey markets using them, bitcoins and the rest would never have had value.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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From The Daily Dot
Of course, it's possible that Papa Nutt knows exactly what he's getting into, and is trying to bilk hardworking Juggalos across America out of their money. But if that's the case, it's not working well yet. Recall that all Bitcoin transactions are public. The Bitcoin wallet he uses to receive money has never had a transaction, as of this writing.

That raises an important question: when, exactly, is the Hatchet Drop supposed to happen? There isn't yet a scheduled date, though the site promises that "today" is the launch of its marketing campaign.

The Daily Dot would have liked to reach out to Nutt for clarification, but he forgot to put his email address on his website. We did, however, find contact information through a Whois Lookup. But considering Nutt lists his address as "1 Clown Lane," we don't expect to receive a response.

Sound like a scam to me

I think I'll stick to a currency I know will be taken everywhere.

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Well, I will try and get some of the free ones. Hard to get scammed when you aren't paying anything.

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piggofdoom said
Well, I will try and get some of the free ones. Hard to get scammed when you aren't paying anything.

True. Go for it. The most you could lose is a few minutes of time.

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And once JuggaloCoin is established among vendors at GOTJ...

Hmmm... Has this guy gone to gatherings? Maybe I wasn't paying attention but I don't remember vendors even taking Visa and MasterCard.

 

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Yeah Ive had moderate success just having my girl show her tits to acquire free Corn dogs.  It works approximately 89% of the time.  My suggestion fuck these digtial currencies and get your self some titties on an ipad.  

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Yeah, I didn't get the "puzzle" explanation either. Makes it sound as though there is a game surrounding the coins and they are rewards. Then if you want more coins you either get them from someone else or play another round of the game?

 

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Is this Juggalo Coin thing an actual idea or is this a joke? Sounds pretty stupid if its real.

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GanjaGoblin said  
Is this Juggalo Coin thing an actual idea or is this a joke?    

both.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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"These currencies have no real value"

 

100% false. Businesses all over the world have started accepting them, there are also ATM like machines made specifically for some of them. It's a volatile market, but they are certainly used as real money and have been for some time. It's real enough to make the US treasury and other government agencies start looking into them as a viable sources of income. If anyone remembers the beginning of paypal it was the same thing. People were worried that turning real money into virtual currency could implode on itself. Now paypal is accepted anywhere visa/mastercard is accepted. 

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not 'these currencies', 'this currency'.  juggalocoins

  

do you think psychopathic is gonna back this, to the point that theyll accept it as payment?  cuz without that, the juggalocoin is going nowhere.  amazon aint gonna accept em any time soon.  

hell, id be surprised if psy dont have a lawyer or two chasing this guy right now.  

  

i note that bitcoins have a ceiling of twenty million coins, and there are currently much less than that out there.  

that theoretically covers the entire global population.  

  

juggacoins are intended for a population of somewhere between one and two hundred thousand, and according to nutt daddy, there is a ceiling of fifty million coins.  and the first half million of them add no value.  

i suspect it will be a while, before these coins are worth enough to pay attention to.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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I never even bothered reading the actual OP or looking at the website until now. 

 

And a big LOL at that. This is so clearly a grab at BTC it's ridiculous. Let's do the math......

 

1-50 slots at .1btc each = 5BTC

Slots 51 - 150: 0.15 BTC each = 15BTC

Slots 151-217: 0.2 BTC each = 13.2BTC

 

Totaling a whopping 33.2BTC or the current market value of nearly $15,000USD.  In recent months the BTC was up more than 50% of the current market which means it could have the potential of earning them $25,000USD.

 

They are simply looking for stupid juggalos with BTC to make some easy money. They basically have already given the "JUG" a BTC value of 1446JUG per 1BTC or 1446JUG = $450. They have effectively completely destroyed their fake currency before they started. 

 

 

 

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so each coin is arbitrarily worth a third of a dollar?  

great.  cant wait to convert all of my useful money into juggalocoins, and really clean up when wall street takes notice and inflates the value.  

  

or, the value increases naturally, through juggalos exchanging them with each other for bead necklaces and internet albums.  

  

of course, before either of those things happen, im expecting jesus to return to earth and start a mariachi band.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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After reading more of the thread I see some of you don't understand the process. There is no game or "puzzle". A computer or mining equipment is set to take a bunch of 1's and 0's and put them in the correct order. Through the process you gain nominal amounts of coinage. BTC is at like .00000000001 per hour now. But at the end you can get a larger sum of coins if you were first to putting all the numbers in place. Think of it like an actual gold mine. While they mine that rock they pull out small pieces of gold, but then they finally break through to that other side for the BIG NUGGET, whomever gets to the big nugget first claims it. Which is where the 500JUG comes from. 

 

The controversy with these currencies is that someone somewhere holds the data to every coin in the service. So they could inflate and deflate as they see fit. It's impossible for an owner to hold onto a large stash of coins or sell a large stash because that would crash the worth. Well it isn't impossible, but it isn't probable because of the market. Adding or subtracting even 10,000 coins from thin air can push the currency into a huge loss. These specific coins have 0 value unless backed by a proper coin or currency. Which he chose to be bitcoins. But coining is a community and the community decides what is and isn't worth while. These will never be taken seriously in the coin community. So they will only ever be worth what juggalos are willing to pay for them, and we all know juggalos are broke. Nobody will accept them as an exchange currency so businesses won't accept them as payment because they'd be stuck with them.     

 

I used to mine BTC with a group of people that did it as their primary income source. Though they dropped a few grand on actual mining equipment making themselves a huge profit over the years. It was lucrative at the time, but the majority of BTC is mined by people using equipment in the tens of thousands of dollars these days. They then saturate the market with cheap coin and fill their bank accounts with cold hard cash. Which is why the price fluctuates so much. In the last year or 2 i've seen it as high as $1100 per BTC it's now down to $460. The most I ever had was 2300BTC, but that's when they were worth a few dollars a piece. In todays exchange that would be a little over 1 million USD and I punch my dick for not saving them. I was buying pounds on silk road for 100BTC and cheaper. But in the end it was all free aside from the large electric bill you get doing this.

 

This guy is trying to back his brand new coin with the most expensive and volatile coin possible, and has already told everyone how many coins he made available. He won't make shit aside from the idiots that send him BTC to buy into this. Which is nothing to scoff at considering that's over $15,000 for a bunch of 1's and 0's.  

 

Final Verdict:

People have to accept these as payments to actually make them worth something. You can't just claim "so many coins are worth so much money". Thus they are worth nothing and certainly not worth the time to mine. It's not even worth getting these free coins as NO ONE will accept them. You could have 50 billion JUG coins and they would still be worth absolutely nothing. 

 

 

Edit: This guy throws out a bunch of misinformation too. Coining is 100% anonymous, it's what you do with them that isn't. 

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