11:39 pm
September 18, 2012
Pigg said
You are all arguing semantics. Instead of discussing the issue, you're fighting over what the word RACISM means. Rob is talking about Racism with a capital R, which is often called institutional racism. This is the idea that there is systematic oppression, whether intentional or otherwise, that most if not all people of color face in this nation and others. If you are using this term of Racism, then Rob is totally correct when he says you can't be racist against white people because the word by definition applies to underrepresented people.Most the rest of you are talking about racism with a little r. Which is the laymen's definition of racism, the idea the superiority or inferiority of a race, or the discrimination of someone based on race. Under this definition you can ABSOLUTELY be racist against white people.
The issue here stems from the fact that Rob asserts that everyone takes his definition of what racism means. The language culture of this forum is obviously not allowing that. To which I pose the question: why do you think this definition has changed in academia? Will the capital R Racism ever become the mainstream view? Because fighting over what racism is and isn't is a giant waste of time if you can't agree on what the word means.
Nope. See, racism is racism regardless of which letter is capitol. It's hatred towards a certain race. If Noah was talking about systematic racism, which is not racism with an R it's just simply put systematic racism, a good phrase to call, it don't need to have a new redefined word for racism, he would have simply said systematic racism. Even at that point, calling a picture of a monkey in a suit Obama is not systematic racism. It's just plain old racism.
What Rob is saying is that racism towards white people isn't really racism because they don't experience systematic racism. Which, even then, have you ever talked to a white person from Japan? Yeah, Japan is systematically racist towards white people. So his statement on systematic racism not happening to white people is only known to be true here in the USA. Except the fact that I can't get the same college benefits as someone of color. And his statement of racism towards whites not counting as racism because the lack of systematic racism towards them in the USA is just plain false. And stupid. So don't defend him on shit that I'm sure even HE knows is wrong. He's just trying to stir shit up and build more of a cultural resentment. Which I guess is fine when he does it but not when Krunk does it.
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I'm not defending him, I'm trying to help you understand what he's trying to say. He is merely repeating what he has been taught. This is what they are teaching now. I've heard it before myself many times. Ever since I found out about it I have wondered "Who decided to take institutional racism and just call it racism? And why?"
11:56 pm
September 18, 2012
Pigg said
I'm not defending him, I'm trying to help you understand what he's trying to say. He is merely repeating what he has been taught. This is what they are teaching now. I've heard it before myself many times. Ever since I found out about it I have wondered "Who decided to take institutional racism and just call it racism? And why?"
He literally said racism against white people doesn't count because they don't experience systematic oppression so he knows the difference.
He initially said that being racist towards Trump is okay because he's a racist. Then moved the goal post when I proved that was bullshit. Like I said, Rob is just trying to stir shit up. Whole point of the thread.
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Pigg said
Fair enough about stirring the pot. You're right about that.
There IS a push to redefine racism though. I am still unsure as to why. Maybe that would be a better article to write for language and discrimination than something on juggalos lmao.
Yeah, well from the sounds of it they are trying to redefine racism to discriminate against white people by dismissing racism towards whites. And the fucked up thing about that is it will build resentment towards POC from stupid white people that don't know better despite the fact that it's probably white people pushing to redefine the word because they treat skin color like a fucking disability.
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All sides "stir the pot". I definitely do it. I'm sure you folks have figured that out. Too much /pol/ influence. And we also redefine things just to troll.
The OK symbol ... A targeted trolling of the left and the media to make something as nice as OK hand symbols mean something new. The Anti-defamation league is even considering adding it to their list. They currently have a 2-handed signal but may add the OK hand gesture as well.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/114482325/
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/114576283/
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/114691345/
The 2 finger peace sign is another. Taking another nice symbol and redefining it to troll...
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/th.....fake-media
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/th.....ate-symbol
The next 2 are going to be the 2 handed heart gesture and the thumbs up. The heart symbol is to be a Pro-Life sign. The thumbs up may end up meaning "one race" - yet to be determined. Many of the anons don't even ascribe to the ideas that the redefinitions say, but love the trolling just for the "lulz".
9:30 am
May 4, 2014
Pigg said
Class is a much better determiner of privelege than race anyway. Like Immortal Technique said, "more than racism, it's stay-in-your-place-ism".
Then there are the Ben Carsons of the world who don't buy into the chains of Marxist oppression (raised in the hood by a single mom to become a world-class neurosurgeon.) Self-actualization seems like a better major than bitchass studies. Marxism is all fun & games, until the mass graves start filling up with dissidents.
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I doubt it. The hyperrealism title was just tongue in cheek obviously but im pretty sure he is dead fucking serious about the rest. Maybe not.
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Psyral Infection said
... The Anti-defamation league is even considering adding it to their list. They currently have a 2-handed signal but may add the OK hand gesture as well...
I was incorrect with this statement. After further research, I have discovered that the Anti-Defamation League was NOT considering the OK hand gesture as a white power sign. They referenced the /pol/ info I stated about it being a targeted trolling. https://www.adl.org/blog/no-the-ok-gesture-is-not-a-hate-symbol
Whoop Whoop Psyral :
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Psyral Infection said
Psyral Infection said
... The Anti-defamation league is even considering adding it to their list. They currently have a 2-handed signal but may add the OK hand gesture as well...I was incorrect with this statement. After further research, I have discovered that the Anti-Defamation League was NOT considering the OK hand gesture as a white power sign. They referenced the /pol/ info I stated about it being a targeted trolling. https://www.adl.org/blog/no-the-ok-gesture-is-not-a-hate-symbol
Just because THEY know that doesn't mean the dumbasses on tumblr or twitter. Liberals are just as prone to confirmation bias as conservatives, and I'm sure there are TONS of pictures of famous white people throwing up the OK sign that self righteous liberals will want to call out to feel good about themselves.
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Psyral Infection said
Psyral Infection said
... The Anti-defamation league is even considering adding it to their list. They currently have a 2-handed signal but may add the OK hand gesture as well...I was incorrect with this statement. After further research, I have discovered that the Anti-Defamation League was NOT considering the OK hand gesture as a white power sign. They referenced the /pol/ info I stated about it being a targeted trolling. https://www.adl.org/blog/no-the-ok-gesture-is-not-a-hate-symbol
Old Mr Dangerous said
Praise yourself and whoever else all you want, but I feel like you are really lost.
To be fair to Ben, he WAS a fucking nuerosurgeon, so even if it is domain specific he has proven to be intelligent and dedicated. I doubt he even wanted the job (he even said he wasn't qualified to be in the administration) but if you were presented that opportunity wouldn't YOU take it?
If he actually tries to run HUD and not gut it he might actually be able to do some good.
11:27 pm
March 30, 2013
Pigg said
Old Mr Dangerous said
Praise yourself and whoever else all you want, but I feel like you are really lost.To be fair to Ben, he WAS a fucking nuerosurgeon, so even if it is domain specific he has proven to be intelligent and dedicated. I doubt he even wanted the job (he even said he wasn't qualified to be in the administration) but if you were presented that opportunity wouldn't YOU take it?
If he actually tries to run HUD and not gut it he might actually be able to do some good.
I dunno. According to some Leonardo Dicaprio based-on-reality film, some kid played at being a teacher and a pilot and more. Fuck that shit. Ben Carson is a pure delusional maniac, no opinion.
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