Honestly, I pack up all extreme valuables and will put in my car, but leave the majority of my stuff out. I'm not going to take the time to pack and unpack all my shit when leaving and returning to my campsite. I leave all my chairs, coolers, camping geer, etc out 95% of the time. A couple years back I got a bottle of vodka swiped on the last day (after having my liquor cooler packed to the gills and left out all weekend). I wrote it off a gathering tax. Hopefully some ninja got drunk off it.

Also, just in general, basic life rules seem to apply at the gathering. Don't look like you're about to get your shit stolen. The ONE time I got fucked over it's because I wasn't thinking and let my guard down. Even then it wasn't necessarily "theft" so much as "spend ten dollars on an advil" lol. Again, don't be stupid and you should be ite.  

phreakcore said
A couple things about the parking lot that I think is good for people planning to leave their car in the lot and walk to camp. First, even though it says "NO CAMPING" on the website and map people still do. I saw a few people posted up in the front of the parking lot fence in the far right corner of Kindle rd who had tents and tarps up. Some people have their vans/buses in there too. I even seen people selling merch. Plus have you ever walked through the rows of cars in the middle of the night. Its trippy as fuck and randomness is everywhere. point is that there is a little community of people who set up in the parking lot and "camp" or just crash/hang in their cars in between events and yes you don't have a wristband to park. If your gonna park your car and walk your best bet might be to park in between cars close and somewhat close to the main road to where it would be harder for someone to break in your car. plus they would be seen and then its bad news bears for them. 

Granted I only stayed for one day/one night before unfortunately having to make the 8 hour drive home, I slept in the car in the lot. I plan on being there for much longer this year and will probably choose the same sleep-in-the-car option that included keeping all my shit locked up in the car for the day. Had no problems and I can definitely confirm, there was definitely some hanging going on and a small community just chilling in the lot around 4am. Had a blast.

or, in the case of one poor cat that got cleaned out, leaving the trunk lid up...  all... night... 

i suspect that there will be a surplus of lot campers, this year. 

krunkazphuk said
Here's to time well spent.

Thanx homie it was fresh to walk down memory lane, even tho some shit is different now

JC said

DrFreshness said
Something else to keep in mind- it's really not that far to the parking lot, maybe a 10 minute walk depending on where you camp?  So really not a big deal to walk down and lock shit up if you're worried about it, even without a car pass.

krunkazphuk said

DrFreshness said
Something else to keep in mind- it's really not that far to the parking lot, maybe a 10 minute walk depending on where you camp?  So really not a big deal to walk down and lock shit up if you're worried about it, even without a car pass.

In the summer heat, uphill over a gravel path, and if you're doing a run with heavy stuff you'll likely be cursing when you're done. (Speaking from experience.)

It really isn't far at all compared to some years at Hogrock when we had to park across the street.  I go back to my car several times a day.  Admittedly, I'm not carrying heavy shit, usually just something small.  I agree that it's not a big deal, and I think that it's easier to go back several times to get whatever than to worry about carrying every little thing down to the campsite and then worry about it getting stolen.  

But also...everything is twice as hard at the gathering.  Walking for a few minutes might not seem like a big deal at all, but at the gathering you are sleep deprived, you've been in the hot sun for days, you likely haven't been eating the best, you're probably dehydrated.  I've seen so many people underestimate it and end up in the medical tent.  Just something to keep in mind.        

About the gravel path...once again everyone, wear tennis shoes/sneakers/boots!  If you're wearing good shoes, the worst part about the gravel path is the dust.  Seriously, you're breathing in dirt like crazy, especially when a golf cart drives by.  I'd suggest wrapping a bandanna around your face or something at least some of the times that you're walking on it to help filter it out.  I'm pretty sure it contributes to the gathering plague.

I just went on a 3 hour trek thru my childhood woods yesterday, fyi no manmade paths just the rough terrain and cliffs, and it still wasnt shit for me. I never got winded or tired or sore and even today im not sore. So i kno, 4 me atleast, this lil parking lot walk aint gonna be shit. And JC is right multiple small trips makes it alot easier than bringin a shit ton of stuff at once.

DrFreshness said
Something else to keep in mind- it's really not that far to the parking lot, maybe a 10 minute walk depending on where you camp?  So really not a big deal to walk down and lock shit up if you're worried about it, even without a car pass.

krunkazphuk said

DrFreshness said
Something else to keep in mind- it's really not that far to the parking lot, maybe a 10 minute walk depending on where you camp?  So really not a big deal to walk down and lock shit up if you're worried about it, even without a car pass.

In the summer heat, uphill over a gravel path, and if you're doing a run with heavy stuff you'll likely be cursing when you're done. (Speaking from experience.)

It really isn't far at all compared to some years at Hogrock when we had to park across the street.  I go back to my car several times a day.  Admittedly, I'm not carrying heavy shit, usually just something small.  I agree that it's not a big deal, and I think that it's easier to go back several times to get whatever than to worry about carrying every little thing down to the campsite and then worry about it getting stolen.  

But also...everything is twice as hard at the gathering.  Walking for a few minutes might not seem like a big deal at all, but at the gathering you are sleep deprived, you've been in the hot sun for days, you likely haven't been eating the best, you're probably dehydrated.  I've seen so many people underestimate it and end up in the medical tent.  Just something to keep in mind.        

About the gravel path...once again everyone, wear tennis shoes/sneakers/boots!  If you're wearing good shoes, the worst part about the gravel path is the dust.  Seriously, you're breathing in dirt like crazy, especially when a golf cart drives by.  I'd suggest wrapping a bandanna around your face or something at least some of the times that you're walking on it to help filter it out.  I'm pretty sure it contributes to the gathering plague.

DrFreshness said
Something else to keep in mind- it's really not that far to the parking lot, maybe a 10 minute walk depending on where you camp?  So really not a big deal to walk down and lock shit up if you're worried about it, even without a car pass.

In the summer heat, uphill over a gravel path, and if you're doing a run with heavy stuff you'll likely be cursing when you're done. (Speaking from experience.)

BlackSand said 
A rat trap or two blended into your stuff should do the trick. If anyone gets hurt digging through your stuff, that's on them.   

ya know...  that seems like a lot of fun... 

Just don't forget they're there when you get back for obvious reasons...

wonka69 said
a lot of the thieving going on is by staff and crew. they raid tents, while I.C.P. performs, because they don't care about watching I.C.P.! Fuck-A-Thief!

so... 

i been hearing this for years and years.  never saw anything myself, but ive heard stories, some involving famous names. 

of course, the main reason ive never seen it is cuz im wrapped up in icp like everybody else. 

a couple years ago, though, i got hurt, left the show for a while to do some quick first aid, and while i was out, took the long way back, kinda givin the place a once-over, just to see if there was anything shifty goin on. 

nothin.  bout a dozen people at the pts stage, for some reason, and a few here and there who were too fatigued or wasted or shellshocked for the concert.