... wait, we live in a world of facts?  what?!  

look around, yo.  at best, we live in a world of, 'well, i buy it, so its a fact'.  at fuckin best.  

at worst, 'fact' is close to being an oxymoron.  

and, this aint court.  and, nobody here is an officer of the court.  far as i know.  

Guest said  
They would not have his trial on an internet forum using the whims of Noah Fence as precedent. 

so why would you...?  

that is what youre doin, after all.  

again.  

For Trump to be convicted of treason in the real world, you know, the one we live in... A real law will have to be cited. A real judge would theoretically be present. They would not have his trial on an internet forum using the whims of Noah Fence as precedent. I was talking about a real world situation. Collusion and treason are different crimes, that is a cold fact.  Marshalled? 

Guest said    

Lawyered.      

no, internetted.  'lawyered' requires a lawyer.     

Guest said   
When you are talking about a crime, you have to cite an actual law.    

no you absolutely do not.  

unless you talkin to a judge.  thinkin on it, not even then.  

That's how the legal system works.      

and this isnt.  

Lucem and Noah fixated on    
[a bunch crap about old shit that was real lowball to start with]  

Cheshyr said
I just always figured it was something like, "homes" as in "homie" and not "holmes" as in some Sir Arthur Conan Doyle type shit...

it is homes.  alternate spelling, widely accepted, often preferred.  

young'n.  

[edited for clarity]

scruffy said
whats wrong with sayin 'holmes'?  

i call people that, holmes.    

I dunno... maybe it's a regional thing... like calling 'soda' "pop" 'er sum shit...

I just always figured it was something like, "homes" as in "homie" and not "holmes" as in some Sir Arthur Conan Doyle type shit...

Comin' up in Florida, I've never thought the Chicanos were calling me the Sherlock to their Watson...

But hey... I guess I ain't "from the streets" enough to be getting a li-bary card and readin' all them books with words n'shit.

I did like that Sega CD game about it though!

'~'=

Noah Fence said
And no, it has nothing to do with fear. You don't have to be afraid of racist violence.  

I'm afraid of racist violence and you aren't. That says it all doesn't it?

Noah Fence said
There were multiple links, one which looked at the kid who was killed for cospkaying, one which showed gray faced pictures which had several people who were racially ambiguous, and one that talked about the rise in police homicides. There was another one that I couldn't link because it wss too hard to navigate on my phone which gave the specific numbers which I repeated. Another which listed the safest states, of which ut was not one, for black people. 

And even if it wss just the 1, 1 out of 30,000 is way more than the ten or so out of 3 million. 

You're white. You don't know how black people feel. There are reasons there are fewer black people in your entire state than there are people at my college.  

But it doesn't show a trend. And that's my whole point.  You desperately tried to prove a point, couldn't find ANY statistics that back it up, then you default to "not enough black people" though I live here and I know that there are enough black people here to show a trend if they were targeted to be shot by cops over nothing. And then you want to pretend a list of safest states, mind you safety in general, no specific topic on the safety, not including Utah at the top means that black people get killed by cops. That is fear mongering bullshit.

I never said I know how black people feel. You are the one who keeps trying to speak for them. I said that racial tension here in Utah is not the same as every where else. As much as I can't speak for black people, I also can't speak for other white people because we are all individual minds who think for ourselves. But I can speak on my experience and conversations with both. Nothing that I have seen happen points towards racial tension anywhere near the level of some where like Ferguson. So, again, you talk out of your ass to spread fear mongering propaganda. And yes it is fear mongering when you fight so hard to push a LIE.

And even if it wss just the 1, 1 out of 30,000 is way more than the ten or so out of 3 million. 

You're white. You don't know how black people feel. There are reasons there are fewer black people in your entire state than there are people at my college.

Noah Fence said

If black people were safer in UT, I would encourage them to move there. As stated in the other thread, with links, there are significantly fewer black people in UT so the number killed is lower. On one of the links I shared there were four people of color killed by the police, out of a pop of 30,000 which was disproportionate to the number of non black people killed, which I think it said was 10. One percent of the population should not be killed about 1/3rd of the time.

Montana had ZERO black people killed in the same time frame but also has a very very small pop of black people.

Where are these places where black people are denying white people service and are more densely packed than white people? Where do black people write laws that make whiteness a crime? Where do black people form lynching gangs to capture white politicians and murder them?

For the record I'm a white latino.

Also, [sarcasm]yes I'm totally all about keeping my cousins in prison, poverty, and subjugation. That's definitely what I want. Mmmmhmmm. I'm so glad my cousins think I'm a good white as opposed to all you bad whites.[/sarcasm].

I don't claim to be or try to be anybody's hero. I'm merely willing to look at the broken institutions, like the police force all over this country, which disproportionately targets people of color. It's not about spreading fear. It's about actually addressing violence so that less violence occurs.  

You showed me one link with one black person killed and didn't offer any statistics at all because you couldn't find any then proceeded to say that there just aren't enough black people in Utah for them to be targeted by cops because you knew you were full of shit. Don't lie. And the closest thing to having a number was that list that had zero black people killed. I live here. I know the environment. I know how race relations are here. We don't have the same tension that obviously prevails in other states. So you can now shut the fuck up with your doom and gloom bullshit. And yes, it is about spreading fear when I pointed out the fact that Utah is different then you desperately try as hard as you can to prove it's not.