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        	<title>Mr. Tidwell on Juggalo Auction</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>"government funded reproductive treatments" sounds like a punk band, but yeah, they're always looking for new ways to create life because it's an interesting problem to solve and leads to further understanding of genetics. </p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:01:11 -0500</pubDate>
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        	<title>krunk on Juggalo Auction</title>
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<strong>Mr. Tidwell said </strong></p>
<p> ... The only way a trans woman can produce a child is if she impregnates someone before transitioning or if she saves her sperm like in a sperm bank etc, or if they have an identical twin the twin can provide the sperm and the offspring will be genetically no different than if it was their own child.  </p>
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<p><span style="color: #000000">The upside is the future will likely have more options. According to </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000"><a href="http://time.com/3748019/same-sex-couples-biological-children/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://time.com/3748019/same-s" rel="nofollow">http://time.com/3748019/same-s</a>.....-children/</a></span></p>
<p>"There likely will be a time when reproductive science could create an embryo from the cells of two men or two women."</p>
<p><span style="color: #000000">Supposedly mouse stem cells have already been used to make sperm cells to produce baby mice. So, coupled with government funded reproductive treatments, <span style="font-weight: bold">Tranny Octomom</span> might be on <strong>Lifetime</strong> TV sometime soon. </span></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 18:30:16 -0500</pubDate>
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        	<title>Novocaine, The Blue Collar King on Juggalo Auction</title>
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<p>this is the article i was reading. its pretty fucked up.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 17:31:39 -0500</pubDate>
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        	<title>Novocaine, The Blue Collar King on Juggalo Auction</title>
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<p><strong>the_smack said </strong><br />
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<p> I guess in Australia chicks with dicks go to women's prisons.  </p>
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<p>nope. they go to mens prisons. i read a article on it a few weeks ago.</p>
<p>its really fucked up. </p>
<p>there was one transwoman who got put into prison and was raped multiple times every day over the course of her ten year sentence. i think the laws are going through the process of being changed. but no, trans women go to mens prisons unless they've had the chop.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 17:29:27 -0500</pubDate>
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        	<title>Mr. Tidwell on Juggalo Auction</title>
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<p><strong>the_smack said </strong><br />
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<p> I guess in Australia chicks with dicks go to women's prisons.  </p>
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<p>Well, it's fiction, but yeah probably. In the US, a transwoman who will usually be put in a women's prison because she's a woman, regardless of her genitals. Mostly because a lot of the time, transwomen, like your friend, will be repeatedly raped and assaulted in mens prisons. </p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 16:15:16 -0500</pubDate>
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        	<title>Mr. Tidwell on Juggalo Auction</title>
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<p><strong>the_smack said </strong><br />
yo robbie</p>
<p> question i'm sure you would know the right answer too</p>
<p> i'm addicted to this show called wentworth it's an australian women's prison drama</p>
<p> and there is a tranny on there called maxine a big buff really masculine looking tranny that has no cock that's why its in a woman's prison, do man to woman tranny's still have sperm?? if even thoe the penis is now a vajayjay can they still produce kids??</p>
<p> its a big plot hole hahahaha plot means vagina in french hahah no pun intended on the show because the tranny can apparently still get women pregnant</p>
<p> i know I can just google the answer, but for a question like this your answer is better than google.  </p>
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<p>Sperm is created in the testes. It's been a while since I've seen wentworth but I think the woman in that has a penis.  She looks so masculine because her body is still producing testosterone (also in the testes) and isn't on HRT. Compared to Laverne Cox in Orange is the New Black who has no testes, and is on HRT, and appears more feminine (to the point of having to cast her twin brother to play her as she begins transitioning).</p>
<p>The only way a trans woman can produce a child is if she impregnates someone before transitioning or if she saves her sperm like in a sperm bank etc, or if they have an identical twin the twin can provide the sperm and the offspring will be genetically no different than if it was their own child.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 16:00:14 -0500</pubDate>
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        	<title>Mr. Tidwell on Juggalo Auction</title>
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<p><strong>DemonicSwagger said </strong><br />
I thought this thread was about the juggalo auction...</p>
<p> do I hear 1 penny...1 penny for your thoughts?!? 2 pennies 2 pennies for your thoughts?!? Sold to the overly stressed fat kid not attempting to hide their boner under a red dress!  </p>
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<p>haha it was supposed to be. Well, not that kind of juggalo auction.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 15:07:09 -0500</pubDate>
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        	<title>Nyro on Juggalo Auction</title>
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<p><strong>DemonicSwagger said </strong><br />
I thought this thread was about the juggalo auction...</p>
<p> do I hear 1 penny...1 penny for your thoughts?!? 2 pennies 2 pennies for your thoughts?!? Sold to the overly stressed fat kid not attempting to hide their boner under a red dress!  </p>
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<p>Well, I am thinking about getting my dick head tatted up to look like face paint and then letting the highest bidder kiss it....</p>
<p>Back on track enough for you?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 14:33:59 -0500</pubDate>
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<p>do I hear 1 penny...1 penny for your thoughts?!? 2 pennies 2 pennies for your thoughts?!? Sold to the overly stressed fat kid not attempting to hide their boner under a red dress!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 08:31:54 -0500</pubDate>
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<p><strong>bayAreaShaman said </strong><br />
Two things.....</p>
<p> @robtidwell I would rather commission a piece from you. More special that way. </p>
<p> Second would u guys still hit if she still had a dick?  </p>
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<p>Had as in past tense or does she still have it? Either way there's some grey area... That pic that smack posted, all fuckin day.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:34:29 -0500</pubDate>
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<p><strong>Mr. Tidwell said </strong></p>
<p> You realize that Regressive Left was coined to criticize not the people who seek progressive change but rather the people who seek to hold the status quo through adherence to strict social conventions, right? </p>
<p> Regressive Left was coined to criticize western americans who identify as liberal who say things like "women raped in arab countries are used to it, and we have to honor their traditions and cultural customs of abuse" not "you're offputting and I don't like you so you're wrong." <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regressive_left  " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regressive_left  </a></p>
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<p>Yes, I understand @robtidwell . The term regressive left is a term that is more of an attack than a good descriptive term. It is a term that I should endeavor to replace in my vocabulary.</p>
<p>Like I said, the ideas I relay were not born in me. Since I do not fit within the trans or gay descriptions, I take my ideas of the subject from those who do call themselves that. More than likely the people I work with do not represent the LGBTQ+ population at large. I work in a tech bubble where the people are more aligned with math and science than the social arts.</p>
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<p><strong>bayAreaShaman said </strong><br />
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 Rob Tidwell don't change shit.<br />
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<p>I agree, @bayareashaman . Rob, in my eyes, is putting a light on a situation and helping those who don't know where to turn. While I don't completely agree with his methods, I would not want him to turn his back on those he helps. Even his methods are necessary in the climate that he works within. Those methods would not work in mine. ... Or better still, I have not been presented, yet, with situations that require the types of advocacy he utilizes.</p>
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<p><strong>bayAreaShaman said </strong><br />
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And wtf is up with this bullshit about being weak if someone says something that is hurtful. Lol wtf are people etching each other. That's natrual it don't make u fucken weak. What u do with it Is different. </p>
<p> Like I get the argument. But that gos on two different extremes. Bullshit. Just cuz it doesn't hurt when u say u call me a wet back doesn't mean u should keep fucken saying it. And  me telling  u to stop don't make me regressive. U sound like niggas who say shit like the war of northern aggression. I call your bullshit. I'm sure u got a good heart but ur bullshit bro u don't fool me. But that's just me bro I'm just some asshole.<br />
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<p>The cultivated weakness thing, again, is just how these friends have described it to me. I see what they are saying. They are happy and strong people who don't let hurtful words have any effect on them. I like that and I emulate that aspect of their personality.</p>
<p>And I don't see you as an asshole. You say what you are thinking with the backing of what brought you to those thoughts. That is not an asshole.</p>
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<p><strong>scruffy said </strong><br />
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left vs right: </p>
<p> i feel the political spectrum is <span style="font-style: italic">not</span> a line;  its a circle, a ring.  further toward the extremes you go, the more they bend back toward each other. </p>
<p> in other words, the far-left commies and the far-right fascists are standing in precisely the same spot, just facing opposite directions.   </p>
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<p>Yes. This is why I think @robtidwell and I are really on the same page. We both work towards mitigating intolerance, but we approach it in different ways.</p>
<p>Please understand I have much love for all yall. "We are all in darkness searching for the light." Everything is a learning experience and I make attempts (sometimes unsuccessfully) to share what I have learned in the world. All yall, keep doing the same. <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="smile" alt="smile" src="http://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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<p><strong>Nyro said </strong></p>
<p> No I mean you are single. She is post op and never told you she was a guy once.  </p>
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<p>Fuck yeah I would. Even if she told me she was post op I would probably do it. But then again it's not that hard to pass up some pussy. Actually not hard at all. U shouldn't trust a guys who can't pass up some pussy. Or at least not that far.</p>
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<p><strong>bayAreaShaman said </strong></p>
<p> I wouldn't fuck anything right now but my hand and my girl. </p>
<p> Buiuuuut when I was single or a bastard I dunno I would have to be in a dark place and really drunk or drunk enough. Or just kinda drunk all day so when night time comes I'm all horny and weird. Post op for sure.  </p>
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<p>No I mean you are single. She is post op and never told you she was a guy once.</p>
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<p><strong>Psyral Infection said   </strong><br />
There is nothing better than being against intolerance and injustice.    </p>
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<p>and absolutely nothing wrong with it*. </p>
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<p>The issue is that it gets taken way to far and becomes itself unjust and intolerant.   </p>
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<p>* except that. </p>
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<p>That is why the current phase of PC will die again.<br />
 I am not completely happy to see it die. I like what it stood for in it's initial inception. It just has gone to the point of being detrimental.  </p>
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<p>not die, simply recede.  like the tide. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>left vs right: </p>
<p>i feel the political spectrum is <span style="font-style: italic">not</span> a line;  its a circle, a ring.  further toward the extremes you go, the more they bend back toward each other. </p>
<p>in other words, the far-left commies and the far-right fascists are standing in precisely the same spot, just facing opposite directions. </p>
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<p><strong>Nyro said </strong></p>
<p> I hang low and to the right.</p>
<p> On the real though if you didn't know you would hit that too. Assuming you are straight.  </p>
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<p>I wouldn't fuck anything right now but my hand and my girl. </p>
<p>Buiuuuut when I was single or a bastard I dunno I would have to be in a dark place and really drunk or drunk enough. Or just kinda drunk all day so when night time comes I'm all horny and weird. Post op for sure.</p>
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