or miss it. 

the thought of missin it stings, but ive already missed half of em anyway.  i would survive. 

really, though, first option is better. 

Mr. Tidwell said

Man everything you said would go under fears for me. Well not the new jokers card idea or the fbi shit being over with, but the rest.

My break down would be somethin like:

Pipedream: gotj is moving West next year, New lotus album out at the gathering, merch game steppin up.

Expectations: big money thrustas is still being written, New Artist hype building. Esham back on the hatchet. The tv show j mentioned somewhere is getting written and we still won't hear any details. The give away will be fuck the fuck off mother fucker sampler.

I only live like a forty-five minutes away from Thornville so I'm bias as fuck. I can see why it would be a fear for most. I want a new jokers card because...well...I like those things and want another one lol. I think ICP moving to Joe and Joey would mentally give them the freedom to do more shit and feel less pressure to deliver. Also, Psychopathic Records taking on more of a HatchetHouse(or what it was suppose to be) vibe would be a move in the right direction to me. Take in a whole bunch of new talent and kind of reaffirm their underground cred. 

For you expectations, those all seem possible except the Esham one and the west thing is a definite fear for me lol. 

I'm sure whatever it is, we will not be disappointed by something and something else will be a huge let down.  

yeah, that about sums it up. 

I expect they'll talk about two supposed documentaries.

They'll announce Juggalo Day - which I hope will be the Wraith Shangri-la live featuring EVERYBODY who's on the album - from ABK to Zug Izland.

They'll either show the face of the 4th or announce that they will show it at Hallowicked. It will probably be released at GOTJ 2018.

They've been boasting alot about Psychopathic Records lately... maybe they got Psychopathics from Outer Space 4 on the way??

CellE2057 said
Pipedreams for the Seminar: Thornville is now the permanent spot for the Gathering, they're releasing the new card at the Gathering, or ICP are moving to Joe and Joey records to give Psychopathic more breathing room for other/more artists.

Expectations for the Seminar: The FBI is submitting and ICP won the case or they're taking a break from ICP albums for a little bit to work on other projects (mainly JCW).

Fears for the Seminar: Young Wicked is now the third member of ICP, they're putting the Gathering on hiatus for a few years, or they're making "Juggaloism" a legit religion.   

Man everything you said would go under fears for me. Well not the new jokers card idea or the fbi shit being over with, but the rest.

My break down would be somethin like:

Pipedream: gotj is moving West next year, New lotus album out at the gathering, merch game steppin up.

Expectations: big money thrustas is still being written, New Artist hype building. Esham back on the hatchet. The tv show j mentioned somewhere is getting written and we still won't hear any details. The give away will be fuck the fuck off mother fucker sampler.

I'm sure whatever it is, we will not be disappointed by something and something else will be a huge let down.

Psyral Infection said

http://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/.....and-proud/

Why you ask? Because I don’t give a fuck! I’m going out there nuts hanging out, like fuck it and I’m gonna tell all that news with my brother and I don’t give a fuck what happens! Gathering 17!

So that edited statement above from J, to me, honestly it sounds like something HUGE is going to happen and not everyone is going to like it.  I could really see a mixed review from the crowd during the announcement.  It sounds like he's hyping himself up for it because it may not be what the Juggalos wanna hear.  

*This is just my opinion and purely speculation*  LOL

Barring anything fucked up happening this year, I think it's safe to say they can always have thornville in their back pocket should they need it. The owner seems to really like us/psy and I hope him and his wife are recognized at the seminar.

Expectations for the Seminar: The FBI is submitting and ICP won the case or they're taking a break from ICP albums for a little bit to work on other projects (mainly JCW).

Fears for the Seminar: Young Wicked is now the third member of ICP, they're putting the Gathering on hiatus for a few years, or they're making "Juggaloism" a legit religion. 

These Vegas stints are called residency shows or some shit, Britney Spears is doing one at the moment if I'm not mistaken. anyway, what if this is one of the big surprise announcements at this years ICP seminar! would that not be fresh as hell?!

-Jules

I'm not totally sure if there is anything to take away from that. Perhaps it is embarrassing news? Perhaps it is a bold new move they are taking in their careers? I really hope it is incredible news unlike the hyped seminar where they re-signed boondox and amb. That aggravated me so much that I wanted to boo at them like the witch from a princess bride. I also hope they release another e.p. I absolutely loved the phantom. I guess only time will tell...

http://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/.....and-proud/

So, we got some huge announcements to make at the ICP seminar, which I’m nervous as fuck about. But you know what? Whether you’re there in person to hear the big news like a true explorer and adventurer in life or if you’re not there and you watch it on You Tube, either way and be sure to peep down in my dick area because you’ll surely be seeing my dick and my nuts hanging out. Why you ask? Because I don’t give a fuck! I’m going out there nuts hanging out, like fuck it and I’m gonna tell all that news with my brother and I don’t give a fuck what happens! Gathering 17!

Do they pull an Oprah and start handing out mad merchandise to everyone? GOTJ 17 shirts or summin? Time will tell, but I can't fuckin wait. Here's hoping for straight cash money!