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who is better?
April 8, 2015
4:03 pm
scruffy
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fine, i guess ill do it for you, fraidy-cat...  

  

background:  the warlock states that i, scruffy, have no skills, and that he clearly is better than i.  im paraphrasing, but we all know that is a fair characterization.  

i happen to disagree on both counts.  but thats just me.

the challenge:  actually, i would argue that the opening statement was the real challenge.  nonetheless, i countered by asking him to post his best track and my worst track side by side, for yall to compare.  

the question:  two, in fact.  1]  does scruffy have no skills?  2]  does the warlocks skill level clearly surpass scruffys?  

  

now, he couldnt bring himself to do it, so im doing it on his behalf, but dont let that influence your critiquing.  

  

first, the self-proclaimed superior.  

The Warlock said  

he did take time to mention that this is his best.  

  

he did not offer an opinion of my worst, so ill go with my own opinion of my worst.  

i do have a heavy personal connection with this song, it being a true story and all...  but other than that, it is filler.  

i mean, ive recorded a few worse songs, sure, but i surely didnt put them on the internet [why the fuck would i?].  

  

After listening to both tracks, I think...

  • The Warlock is NOT clearly better, and scruffy gots skills. (43% : 10 votes)
  • scruffy has no skills, and The Warlock is clearly better. (17% : 4 votes)
  • The Warlock is clearly better, but scruffy does have skills. (17% : 4 votes)
  • I like the pointless answers, because they let me waste my vote without adding any information. (13% : 3 votes)
  • None Of The Above. (9% : 2 votes)
Total Voters: 23

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 8, 2015
4:16 pm
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SoundCloud won't show on here, but if it's why I carry, and Warlocks newest track with Spunky, then, Why I Carry is better. I like it, don't think it's a worst, I even have it quoted in my signature. 

"Your girl fucked me 'cause you cummin' quicker than FedEx Air"- Sean Law

April 8, 2015
4:34 pm
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scruffy said

The Warlock said  

he did take time to mention that this is his best.  

please quote where i said that cuz i dont feel it is.. i just posted it cuz its my most recent released verse and i feel its better than what ive heard from you..

 

also my verse for people who want to judge this by "lyricism" which is a much less subjective argument..

My pen game was phenomenal now it's astronomical, it's comical how you think that I'm not on a role.
get it honor role I'm the valedictorian, I've been trained to play y'all lames like an accordion.
Smokin 'em like opium I'll slam the face on the linoleum, & force feed your bitch a glass of petroleum.
Call me Foley when I'm mandibly chokin 'em, I be controllin' 'em & stand on 'em like a podium.
I'll be the last man doin it no sk, I be killin it on my solo shit Segway.
Yeah cuz I ride by myself won't deny how i felt, While you hide in a shell.
Like a turtle cuz you're a nerd urkle, yo I met your bitch & she became fertile.
I guess I'm more desirable Its only right you should know, she can't get me out her head Kylie Minogue.
& she can't stop givin' it lips locked with a grip, like a plunger while you wonder if she's still innocent.
But she's not she's as filthy as can be, guilty as the villains who be pillaging the streets.
Uh yeah fuck a warlock yeah I'll say it, cuz I'm eviler I'm a pagan yo I'm magus.
face it your shit's like enslavement, I was a prodigy hip hops' Amadeus.

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April 8, 2015
5:05 pm
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Your pen game is scribbles like an adolescent

dribble from a peasant that pretends to have an essence

Get real kid! Your crown is made of a cuckoos nest

knock your ass out and leave you with stars circling your head

Would steal your shoes but they're just loaves of bread

Ya big pussy...good luck with that yeast infectionhammer_gif

April 8, 2015
5:36 pm
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to be completely honest.. warlock is one of the worst rappers I've ever heard in my entire life

the crackhead down the street is atleast 100 times better

April 8, 2015
5:49 pm
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April 8, 2015
6:07 pm
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i voted none of the above... purely for the fact that i do not particularly like either of those examples. and that is the only Scruffy song I've heard, i heard your verses on the other PMB tracks and i enjoyed them... so i guess i should have picked the one where warlock is not clearly better... cause i don't know of any warlock songs i do like off the top of my head and i'm not going searching... 

"HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN, ONCE YOU SURRENDER THE ABILITY TO PROPERLY OPERATE YOUR MIND, YOU ARE THEN SURRENDERING THE ABILITY TO BE THE SHIT. AND THAT ONLY MEANS, YOU AINT SHIT ANYMORE."-SHAGGY2DOPE

April 8, 2015
7:04 pm
Pigg
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Listen to live or die if you wanna hear more polished scruffy.

 

edit: Can someone embed this, please?

April 8, 2015
7:47 pm
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I like scruffys. Reminds me of a mix of old ICP and someting else

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April 8, 2015
8:56 pm
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I pick scruffy because the stand alone verse keeps my attention more.

 

Warlock has a better technical ability, something we all have said is what he has many times before, the recording/song is much more polished and less murky, though do to his shitty delivery he really needs to do some compressing to his voice, but he has nothing to say and his verse is just generic.

 

First he calls Steve Urcle a nerd.

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Then claims to have met his female companion, whom he refers to as a bitch.

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Then claims that he make her 'fertile'.

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And he thinks that's the dopest shit ever.

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April 8, 2015
9:02 pm
King Lucem Ferre
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My response to the conversation on other thread that I read on my lunch, I have given unbiased opinions and still do. I honestly just don't keep giving him chances anymore because A he almost never improves and B he's an ass about it so he's not deserving of any kind of tips or pointers on what to fix and C I just don't encourage anybody to rap ever unless I really like their music because there are too many rappers out there and majority of them suck.

April 8, 2015
9:20 pm
Novocaine, The Blue Collar King
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i chose scruffy. 

 

Personally i think that these were both poor choices for songs. the warlocks verse is half assed with mediocre everything. rhyming as many 3 and 4 syllable words as your can in one breath is not showing how skilled you can be.

 

i was never a huge fan of why i carry, i think it was scruffys weakest effort from pmb, BUT it hits the head for storytelling hands down.

 

I think 2 original and new songs perhaps with a beat donated by one of the producers of the site (im sure you guys can knock together something basic) would be the most ideal.

April 8, 2015
9:22 pm
The Warlock
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Lucem (Just An Asshole) Ferre said
I pick scruffy because the stand alone verse keeps my attention more.

 

Warlock has a better technical ability, something we all have said is what he has many times before, the recording/song is much more polished and less murky, though do to his shitty delivery he really needs to do some compressing to his voice, but he has nothing to say and his verse is just generic.

 

First he calls Steve Urcle a nerd.

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Then claims to have met his female companion, whom he refers to as a bitch.

Urkel_zps2e29e2fe.jpgImage Enlarger

Then claims that he make her 'fertile'.

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And he thinks that's the dopest shit ever.

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lol.

i was calling the invisible guy i was battling a nerd, like urkle, & saying id make his invisible gf fertile haha.. in my defense for the genericness when i wrote this verse i was concentrating on having material for a live written battle back when i thought competing in those were in the near future, so having generic battle verses was important.. this was really just a random throwaway verse.. far from a game changer concept song..

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April 8, 2015
9:24 pm
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I say each should buy non-exlusive licenses for the same beat from a place you can find when fingering a girl's butthole and see who makes a better song out of it.

 

Fingering Girl Bootyz 4 Life.

April 8, 2015
9:26 pm
King Lucem Ferre
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Why you picking on Urcle, man? Actually, I think it's Urkel.

April 8, 2015
9:27 pm
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LuckyNumbrXIII said

As far as style... I do prefer scruffy.  I like slow, raw raps.  Not fast, clean rippity-rappers that rap 300 words per minute but say nothing.

i did say something tho.. im a good and skilled rapper was the point of my verse haha.. if you're talking substance, eh... theres a lil slut shaming in there haha.. also i "polished" the song, sk just layed his verse down and i threw some preset plug ins over our verses haha and cut up the beat to fit 'em..

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April 8, 2015
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Lucem (Just An Asshole) Ferre said
I say each should buy non-exlusive licenses for the same beat from a place you can find when fingering a girl's butthole and see who makes a better song out of it.

 

Fingering Girl Bootyz 4 Life.

ever the salesman.

April 8, 2015
9:29 pm
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Lucem (Just An Asshole) Ferre said
Why you picking on Urcle, man? Actually, I think it's Urkel.

i never looked it up haha and it was just a simile, nothing personal haha 

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April 9, 2015
1:01 am
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right, eight hours plus, lets see what we have so far.  

8, 2, 1, 1, and 1.  

JiffyLong said  
SoundCloud won't show on here, but if it's why I carry, and Warlocks newest track with Spunky, then, Why I Carry is better. I like it, don't think it's a worst, I even have it quoted in my signature.    

yeah.  

so, your vote is blatantly unfair to the warlock, and therefore doesnt count.  7,2,1,1.  

  

The Warlock said  

scruffy said  
he did take time to mention that this is his best.    

please quote where i said that cuz i dont feel it is.. i just posted it cuz its my most recent released verse and i feel its better than what ive heard from you..    

you serious...?  fine.  

scruffy said  
just take the best warlock track you can find, and put it against the worst scruffy track you can find.  
too easy.    

and the only thing you came with was:  

The Warlock said  
my Mozart verse (which i wrote 2 yrs ago..)  

[lyrics transcription here, get to that in a minute]  
 
dont pick your worst lets see your best verse from PMB @scruffy..    

if you changed your mind, that cant be my fault, now can it?  what was i supposed to do, go lookin around for the song you secretly really meant to put up?  

go ahead then, pick another song of yours to use, instead.  do it before the poll expires.  

 

now that thats out of the way, how about this...  [note the bolded]  

also my verse for people who want to judge this by "lyricism" which is a much less subjective argument..

My pen game was phenomenal now it's astronomical, it's comical how you think that I'm not on a role.
get it honor role I'm the valedictorian, I've been trained to play y'all lames like an accordion.
Smokin 'em like opium I'll slam the face on the linoleum, & force feed your bitch a glass of petroleum.
Call me Foley when I'm mandibly chokin 'em, I be controllin' 'em & stand on 'em like a podium.
I'll be the last man doin it no sk, I be killin it on my solo shit Segway.
Yeah cuz I ride by myself won't deny how i felt, While you hide in a shell.
Like a turtle cuz you're a nerd urkle, yo I met your bitch & she became fertile.
I guess I'm more desirable Its only right you should know, she can't get me out her head Kylie Minogue.
& she can't stop givin' it lips locked with a grip, like a plunger while you wonder if she's still innocent.
But she's not she's as filthy as can be, guilty as the villains who be pillaging the streets.
Uh yeah fuck a warlock yeah I'll say it, cuz I'm eviler I'm a pagan yo I'm magus.
face it your shit's like enslavement, I was a prodigy hip hops' Amadeus.

youre saying that you are a lyrical rapper, as long as you dont have to actually rap.  think on that for a minute.  

that said, in the interest of fairness, add the warlocks written lyrics to the competition.  

  

Novocaine, The Kangaroo King said  
I think 2 original and new songs perhaps with a beat donated by one of the producers of the site (im sure you guys can knock together something basic) would be the most ideal.    

uh, no.  waste of my time.  

besides, we would apparently have to wait a couple years.  

let him save his hot fiya barz for the next time he is battling invisible guys.  

  

 

so, @the-warlock, since you feel i didnt slant this thing enough your way...

jiffys vote is now discounted, for being an obvious sop.  

your lyrics shall be posted in text form and used as part of the judging, as proof your talents as a rapper.  or lyricism as a writer, whatever.  personally, i think music is much more lyrical when you can actually hear it.  

and finally, you need to come up with a better song of yours to compete with, since you didnt think the first one was good enough.  

  

that enough lack of bias for ya?  literally everything breaks in your favor.  anything else i can do to accommodate you, here?  

neverthrives artwork might be taken as more interesting than your friends face...  i can replace it with a plain grey square though, no trouble.  no art bias

is there another song of mine that you think would be a better choice?  just lemme know, we will go with that one.  no competition bias.  

  

7, 2, 1, 1, and 1.  let us see if you can turn it around.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 9, 2015
1:28 am
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Warlock's new song to compete against yours is Kendrick Lamar's I.

 

Do people like Scruffy's Why I Carry or Warlock's I by Kendrick Lamar.

 

We all know who Urkel is going to vote for, but his opinion is biased since Warlock talked about his 'bitch'.

 

Urkel is going to fuck his shit up, Urkel ain't scared, Ukel's a grown man now and he don't play no shit. Urkel bout to handle his.

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