11:30 pm
January 11, 2013
Saw this on Twiztid’s twitter
tweetmesohard
@tweetmesohardYes you can! Mono RT @Pyroteeze: Dear @tweetmesohard, can I please still make Twiztid artwork like this? After 10yrs I can’t make psy ones anymore http://t.co/AChnEvPuey 2013-10-26
Pyro Teeze #nerdgirl
@Pyroteeze
@fatboytaber@tweetmesohard I recieved legal notice from@icp or their people saying I can’t make them anymore, so POOF, they gone…Pyro Teeze #nerdgirl
@Pyroteeze
@tweetmesohard thank you! I’m so sad that after so long, they all of a sudden decided its not ok anymore. :(
Anyone else get anything like this? What about the tarot card lady? Shit juggalo merch is a big part of the gathering. At least Twiztid isn’t being that pathetic.
12:17 am
February 9, 2013
12:20 am
February 9, 2013
1:09 am
November 30, 2012
8:09 am
April 15, 2013
They have been sending out cease and desist letters since about the time Jump came back. I’m not saying there is any connection, that was just when the letters started rolling out. A couple of my friends have received them. It’s a sad day when the hatchetman doesn’t belong to Juggalos anymore, I too remember those old seminars where they encouraged Juggalos to be creative and were not threatened by their creativity. Those days are gone.
8:56 am
March 30, 2013
9:23 am
September 28, 2013
11:53 am
September 16, 2012
12:24 pm
May 14, 2012
i think its way to bring in more money theres always those hardcores lettes and los that will sport the hatchetman logo an if psy can stop individuals from selling homemade merch its a little bit more they have to pay off there debt. thinnk about how many ninjas make charms that are decent an a quarter of what psy charges they are putting a monopoly on the hatchetman watch theyll try to tax ninjas for psy related tats
12:52 pm

March 31, 2012
1:12 pm
July 11, 2012
I agree with warlock on this one.They have a business and if anybody stole ideas from any other company and try and sell it that would be copyright infringement.Because its juggalos thats makes it ok? I dont see the logic there.If juggalos want to make their own shit and wear it thats cool but you cant sell the shit and try and make money off someone elses shit, thats just the way the world works
1:57 pm
April 15, 2013
The Grateful Dead are soft on bootlegged merch and allowed fan taping of their shows. It was a very successful business model. Very successful. They still remain one of the top grossing acts of all time. It’s an approach that some think leads to a tighter bond between the artists and the fans. In my opinion, this approach was what helped Juggalo culture grow in the first place and no one canm deny that a lot of great ideas were spawned. Stunting this activity is certainly PSYs legal right, but that doesn’t make it a smart move. I doubt that crafted Juggalo swag was cutting too deep into their sales… if anything was it was the generic look and the overall quality drop that HatchetGear went through some years back.
2:18 pm
May 14, 2012
4:17 pm
April 15, 2013
This thread reminded me of a campaign that ICP put on the hotline about 14 years ago. The pitch went like this, if you knew a business that was selling bootleg ICP merch, you could call and leave a message snitching them out… Then ICP was supposed to reward you with some legit gear. I say supposed to because I ratted out my local record store, who was selling bootleg Live at the Ogden VHS tapes and fake Mutilation Mixes and I never received jack shit. Where’s my shit PSY? Haha I guess they don’t pay their snitches very well when it’s all said and done. I haven’t given this incident a second thought since it happened, but I guess it’s just another chalk mark on the broken promises tally board. I wonder if anyone even got anything out of that bootleg campaign.
4:40 pm
March 30, 2013
Guest said
The Grateful Dead are soft on bootlegged merch and allowed fan taping of their shows. It was a very successful business model. Very successful. They still remain one of the top grossing acts of all time. It’s an approach that some think leads to a tighter bond between the artists and the fans. In my opinion, this approach was what helped Juggalo culture grow in the first place and no one canm deny that a lot of great ideas were spawned. Stunting this activity is certainly PSYs legal right, but that doesn’t make it a smart move. I doubt that crafted Juggalo swag was cutting too deep into their sales… if anything was it was the generic look and the overall quality drop that HatchetGear went through some years back.
Well said.
4:54 pm
July 11, 2012
Old Mr Dangerous said
Guest said
The Grateful Dead are soft on bootlegged merch and allowed fan taping of their shows. It was a very successful business model. Very successful. They still remain one of the top grossing acts of all time. It’s an approach that some think leads to a tighter bond between the artists and the fans. In my opinion, this approach was what helped Juggalo culture grow in the first place and no one canm deny that a lot of great ideas were spawned. Stunting this activity is certainly PSYs legal right, but that doesn’t make it a smart move. I doubt that crafted Juggalo swag was cutting too deep into their sales… if anything was it was the generic look and the overall quality drop that HatchetGear went through some years back.
here is a press release from the grateful dead on the matter and they dont seem to happy about it either…Ripping off the Grateful Dead, percussionist Mickey Hart once remarked, is like stealing from Santa Claus. The band that gives millions to charity, that permits its audience to make audio tapes—who could be grinch enough to loot the most generous rock band ever?
Among many others, hundreds of grinches, who had been selling their bootleg merchandise at Grateful Dead concerts, had their merchandise confiscated during the band’s recent eat coast and Midwest summer concert tour as part of a series of lawsuits filed by the Grateful Dead in New Jersey, Michigan, Ohio, New York, Kentucky, Illinois, Indiana and D.C. The Dead estimate that tens of thousands of pieces of illegal merchandise, from t-shirts and other clothing items to stickers, posters and lyric books, were seized pursuant to Federal court seizure orders and under local anti-counterfeiting and anti-vending laws, enough to overflow the capacity of the storage semi-trailer at several venues.
Additionally, a Federal Court unsealed the file and entered a $15,000.00 judgment (which was stayed by agreement) and permanent injunction against the sale of unauthorized videotapes of Grateful Dead concerts. The defendant agreed to the issuance of the injunction.
The Dead is still Santa Claus in spirit, but the band has the right to control how it can be commercially portrayed. The last issue isn’t particularly about money—no one knows how much the band loses to counterfeiters and no one is sitting around calculating the figure. It’s a matter of what’s right: if the Grateful Dead wants to put out t-shirt, a sticker or a whatever, only the Dead has a right to do so and to determine and assure the content and quality.
Even a grinch should be able to figure that out. Those who don’t get it will have judges explain it to them.
-Grateful Dead
Readers—For many years, Relix has held a strict policy of not advertising the trade (and, of course, the sale) of Grateful Dead videos. Help us help them even more. Stop selling bootleg merchandise and help the Grateful Dead control this problem by not purchasing these illegal products. Remember, they can stop the show any time they want. So, in addition to picking up garbage, watching out for your neighbor and respecting the locations the band chooses to play, it’s time to police the scene one step further. Let’s keep the band happy—they’ve done at least that much for us.
Another matter that needs to be addressed is that of the Grateful Dead Ticket Office. In response to a number of letters we printed from readers angry at being shut out of Grateful Dead shows by not receiving tickets via GDTS, I’m happy to announce an overwhelming response in support of GDTS and the work they do. The folks at the Grateful Dead ticket office do an extraordinary job in filling the enormous number of requests they get for each show. Just follow the directions you get from the hotlines and have the requests postmarked the date stated and you have as good a shot as anyone (and a better chance than if you stand on a ticket outlet line).
Official Grateful Dead hotlines are as follows:
East Coast: 201-744-7700
West Coast: 415-457-6388
Mail Order: 415-457-8457
Due to the amount of material we wanted to cover this issue, the “Letters” and “Favorite Tapes” columns don’t appear. They’ll continue next issue. It was great sharing the reproduction of the very first issue of Dead Relix with you, which was included with our last issue. We’ve come a long way thanks to your support. I’d also like to welcome Claudia Falzarano on board as our new editor.
On October 14th, we’ll be holding a multi-celebratory event at Wetlands Preserve, 161 Hudson Street, New York City. We’ll be celebrating the 20th anniversary of Relix magazine and Relix Records will be celebrating new releases by Dead Ringers, Tom Constanten and Solar Circus. Dead Ringers (featuring Tom Constanten, David Nelson and Barry Flast) and Solar Circus will be joined by special guests for a great night of music. Call Wetlands at 212-966-4225 for more info. We hope to you’ll join us in the festivities.
See you around!
5:13 pm
March 20, 2013
5:38 pm
March 30, 2013
novocaine said
wheres wonka69 when you need him’
feck dem richies! W/#W!
Wonka loves those exclamation points.
I was thinking of original artwork when I said my opinion. Like if you have your own drawing style, glass blowing style, fucking legobuilding style, and you draw a unique iinterpretation of Homer Simpson, or Popeye, or fucking Stay Puft Marshmallow Man, and you DONT put a hatchet man emblem on there, trying to FOOL the person buying it into thinking its OFFICIAL Psy merch, then Iddon’t find anything wrong with that. You blow a dope glass pipe with your own unique ABK cartoon fucking googly face on the side, and sell it, who gives a fuck? That’s not PSY’s business. They should be happy enough that they’re recognized enough to spawn creative art.
If you get a hatchet man tattoo, you’re paying for it, but not to PSY, so should they order a cease and desist to the tattoo artist? I dunno I been working all day and can’t feel my feet hahahahahahaha
5:42 pm
December 3, 2012
I dont know why anyone is surprised. This is a business. They arent your family. I have seen some really dope pieces that were bootlegged though.my buddy had a blue glass pipe that had a wraith on the front of the bowl. If they can get away with it more power to them. There are whole sections in behind the paint on how to steal and they know their fan base is full of scrubs so they shouldnt be surprised either
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That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
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