King Lucem Ferre said

bayAreaShaman said
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Im pretty sure if ur not for lack of a better word and idiot u would think its a big deal.

 

After over 10 years and I don't know anybody that's been targeted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8qfqn8bYH0

This guy has a hatchet man tattoo. Have never heard a discrimination story from him.

I know two people that are hardcore juggalo with all the merch and everything that got unlawfully raided. Heard a lot about how that was bullshit and nothing about being discriminated against for being juggalos.

So it's strange that the most criminal juggalos I know don't have a discrimination story in the state that supposedly inspired the FBI.

So remind me why this is a big deal? Because the potential to limit our freedoms? Then where were any of you 10 years ago? Why is it when ICP tells you it's a big deal that's when you all rise to action?  

I guess it wasnt the video.

I wasnt around ten years ago.

And just cuz u dont know any doesn't mean they don't exist.

And u have a point u shouldn't wait around for people to do shit for you.

And im sure u know why its not ok lucem.

So does anybody still want to hear me rap about it?

iINhaleCHEMtrails said

Why?? Llyte is the best lyricist there. Just cause he dosent have a stupid ass gimmick dosent make him out of place. Same with lex they both kill it on the mic but ppl dont like them cause they have no gimmick?? So fuckin dumb   

How does Lex not have a gimmick? He wears facepaint and is called The Hex Master. In fact I think his name is probably the worst thing about him, sounds really goofy and like a Big Hoodoo rip off (which he isn't). Other than that, I like Lex. Why do you assume the only reason I don't like him is because he has no gimmick? Clay doesn't have a gimmick either and I like him.

Like I said, I don't think he is a bad rapper. He just doesn't seem to fit, in my opinion. I guess when it comes down to it, he just isn't what I, personally, want to hear from Psychopathic. But if you like him, good for you. Who knows, maybe once his LP drops and I get to hear more of what he has to offer, I will change my mind. But sometimes you just don't feel a rapper, eventhough you can acknowledge that they have skills. Like MGK, dude is talented, but I can't stand his music. And so far, I get a similar vibe from Lyte.

I thought the Psypher was good, not quite understanding those of you in this thread or the ones that responded to the Faygoluvers.net posting of it in the comments section that seem to hate it or are saying things like "What happened to this label?" Everybody brought something cool to the table. While I don't like Blahzay Roze's EP, I've been saying I think if she tweaked her overall image (visually and on record) a little bit she actually has a pretty good flow and everything. She did well on the Psypher. I still don't know why they dress her up like a weird Cruella Deville but whatever. And I get why some don't understand Lyte being on the label just because he doesn't paint his face since Psychophatic loves the gimmicks. I get it, but, as far as lyrical talent goes he basically beats the shit out of the rest of the label. He brings something not already present on the label, it's a good thing. The jury is still out of on him until we actually hear an album or at least an EP though. When I saw him on the Riddlebox tour, the Juggalos definitely responded and liked his shit. I never heard of him until that night and I was impressed. I basically don't know shit about DJ Clay but even his verse was cool.

Though, one criticism I'm seeing about the Psypher is that the whole "If We Were A Gang" concept seems counterproductive to the whole reason for the Juggalo March. They're basically saying "We're not a gang but we're still criminals" in some parts. So again, fun to listen to and I think each artist brought something cool, but I'm not so sure this was the right thing to do for the purpose. Also, was this supposed to be the Psypher where they were going to include every artist that has accepted their invitation to the March or am I confusing that with something else? I remember J saying they would go out and film each artist in their element and all that but maybe I'm mixing up info. If it was supposed to be that, obviously it fell through and they stuck with just Psychopathic artists. 

I've been trying to tell y'all....

Lyte's new full length is gonna crush!  I'm mad hype for him and that Gorilla Voltage group.  Those are my 2017 groups that I hope really pop off.

Chevy2Dope said
Also, was this supposed to be the Psypher where they were going to include every artist that has accepted their invitation to the March or am I confusing that with something else? I remember J saying they would go out and film each artist in their element and all that but maybe I'm mixing up info. If it was supposed to be that, obviously it fell through and they stuck with just Psychopathic artists.   

No, this was something completely different.  Just a stand alone PSY psypher.  The March Psypher will come out closer to the upcoming months leading into the DC March.

Note:

And to be honest, this is what I was expecting on New Years, not that Hurricane of Diamonds song.

yeah this might need to be beefed up a lil..

I'm down with that beat for the song.  I'd have to listen to it on my studio monitors and see what needed beefing.  Ill see what I can do..

CellE2057 said

Chevy2Dope said
They're basically saying "We're not a gang but we're still criminals" in some parts.

That's some valid criticism you got there.

It doesn't only apply to that one song either. That's the mentality they seem to have about the whole "gang" thing in general. But it's cool, I'm sure that any media outlets that cover the march will pick up on the nuance of it and not try to simplify the situation.   

This is the whole thing that really fucks with me. They built their entire career around talking about being criminals and making music for scrubs and criminals.

Now its almost like these past few years they have been trying to rectify that. You can hear it in the music and the lyrics. Say what you want but these last few albums are but a shell of what the wicked shit is supposed to be. Theres a few good ones here and there, dont get it twisted.

Thing is, they cant and they fucking shouldnt try to rectify anything. Its very disingenuous to me. Plus its too fucking late.  Fuck your publicity march and make some dark shit. If I want happy vibes and smiles ill go bump Sublime. When I listen to Insane Clown Posse I wanna bang out to murder music.

Cant have it both ways. If your music caters to bottom feeders like myself then thats what you are going to pull in. Common fucking sense. Unless ICP is gonna become a christian rock group we all need to let this shit go because Juggalos will NEVER be accepted.

Wasnt that the whole fucking point of the family movement in the first place? Who gives a fuck if we arent accepted? This whole culture is ass backwards at the moment and its changing.

King Lucem Ferre said
I know why what you're being told is happening is not okay. But the infrequent amount of times it happens does not justify the reaction being given by people that did not give a damn until ICP told them to.  

Its your opinion im drinking from the koolaid not mine.

They aren't suing for the damage its done to the company. They could and should. But you guys would jump all over it. 

And if thats your hang up ur trippin.

U mad cuz music made people wake up on some shit puto?

U don't like that two people inspired alot of people to stand up for them selves?

Dont get it.

If ur gonna pick on the group of juggalos that ride dick yeah go for it but it just sounds like butt man.

If i get pulled over and they want to fuck with me they will now.

They want to keep me in there longer? They can now.

Makd me pay forever? They can. 

U dont think its funny u know we aren't a gang but the fbi went out its way to say we are?

Its just a way to make u illegal baby.

Shut u up.

Fucken coral you. 

Take away ur fucken freedom and a piece of paper will say it ok.

Gang bangers out here dont even wear red anymore.

I wanna wear my fucken jersey and do crime without getting the gang tag lol