7:47 pm
March 30, 2013
I never graduated high school.
I have an Associate’s degree in Liberal Arts.
I used to abuse nitrous and other inhalants.
I have been called a genius by people smarter tha myself. One, a verified music prodigy.
I have been to jail.
I was enrolled in a higher education program called SAGE during my adolescent years. I quit.
I have been in over thirty fights. I won them all, at least no worse than a draw.
I have saved other people’s lives. In several ways.
I have been stomped, well they tried, but did not injure me.
I sell cannabis at a legal and medicinal dispensary.
I could go on with these points.
Do these make me stupider than you, Lucky?
7:56 pm
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May 22, 2012
Carnivalkilla44 said
In my opinion, if these type of things J says turns you away then either A) you were never that big of a fan anyway or B) you’re way too invested in the music.
i know you were referring to ninjas bailin out, but i just wanna reiterate is that what seems unpleasant about this, to me, is not what j is sayin, its how juggalos could potentially react to it. speculatively speaking. [although, some aspects have already come true…]
i dont begrudge other humans their beliefs, unless they are really, really negative.
speakin for myself [still], it would take more than this to make me want to bail out. fuck, i stuck around after shangrila, right?
Carnivalkilla44 said
LuckyNumbrXIII said
why isn’t PSY doing anything for ABK anymore?Same reason they aren’t doing anything for Hoodoo anymore. I mean if they had any faith in him as an artist he’d have a new record out by now.
That’s how PSY operates nowadays.
my guess is that its more icp not bein able to run their shit at as high of a level, if they gotta do the same for a whole roster.
at the core, i think this is why twiztid left; psy couldnt give them the same resources as before without undercutting icp, and they werent about to do that. label was overextended, leaving twiztid to handle their own business, and they probably werent able to do that very well without being the bosses.
they pretty much had to leave, or limit themselves to well-known-opener status. there wasnt any more pie to slice up, without takin it from somewhere else. they coulda very easily given twiztid whatever they wanted… if they just stopped doin the gathering.
I really wish they’d trim down to just ICP.
sadly, this might be for the best.
i say sadly, cuz that might mean that hoodoo, boondox, abk, and amb would vanish. i dont much care if amb vanishes, or abk or boondox, for that matter, but a lotta juggalos would care.
Lucem (Just An Asshole) Ferre said
I just don’t understand why anybody is willing to continue the debate with Luck when all he does is spit out Bullshit! Hell, the initial start of the debate, like many of his debates, is because he didn’t actually read a comment and spit out some Bullshit! to battle the comment. Plus, he literally insulted the whole forum with his “I know most of you haven’t graduated highschool…” comment.
i mustve missed that high school remark. are you quoting some other old shit, here? or is it in error?
ive insulted the forum before, when i went off about [among other things] how too many people waste many, many posts runnin down an individual out of spite. why is anybody listenin to me?
as an aside, lucem… that wasnt sarcasm, earlier. you really oughtta lay off the lucky bashing, cuz its a lotta inflammatory direct attacks in there, clearly calculated to grind his nerves whether there is a point bein made or not.
and yes, im not stupid, i saw that he was doin precisely the same fuckin thing.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
7:57 pm
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May 22, 2012
8:10 pm
September 18, 2012
He said it in the original thread when he went on his tirade about cheshyr’s comment on hoping Violent J doesn’t start preaching in every other song/interview. I just see this little temper tantrum as a continue of that past one.
I’ll be honest, I’ve been feeling like a piece of shit for the past week or two and I decided that I will take it out on Lucky because he’s an easy target, he starts shit with everybody on here with his passive aggressive insults he tries to sneak into his debates, and he’s literally throwing a fit every time somebody even hints at believing in something other than what he believes.
If you noticed, I for the most part try to stay out of arguing with him (I said this enough times already, but I’m saying it again) because he speaks nothing but Bullshit! just to feel like he’s winning while crying out his victim sob stories in the middle because it’s totally him being picked on and not him provoking it.
But, me feeling like a piece of shit, noticed him, for the thousandth time, lump a bunch of people together with his condescending Bullshit! claim on how atheists are big fat meanies always picking on poor wittle Christians and I was like fuck it. If he wants to pretend to be grown up while playing his child games I will cut the facade and straight up troll and insult him until he’s gone.
8:16 pm
September 18, 2012
And just like the child he is he’s going to blame me for the comment. Ladies and gentlemen, it’s all my fault Lucky says ignorant things to insult the whole forum, it’s all my fault because he’s a victim.
Let’s all start playing a sad violin for him in our minds when ever he makes a comment for now on. I will make him a theme song real quick, wait.
8:25 pm
April 29, 2013
Cheshyr said
Here, l’emme try to help.It seems like some of you keep getting caught up playing the Synonym Game. SO let me try to “amend” J’s comments replacing all of the synonyms with ONE word, so that those of you confused by how others might be finding offense and keep this shit going in circles.
What follows is the *whole message, in order. I’ve only deleted the first few sentences that are not in question.
Here’s your primer: all uses of the words GOD, FAITH, SALVATION, and HOPE have been REPLACED with the word “RELIGION” in bold face because those words are constantly being misappropriated in their usage when they all are meant as the same single word… “religion”. It may make some sentences sound funny with double usage but I am attempting to drive the point home to those that can’t see it.
So here ya go @luckynumbrxiii and the like, this is what the NON-believers see when we read stuff like this. Hope (excuse me “religion” ;P) it helps bring about some understanding.
J-WEBB: Why does this Jokers Card have two faces? Lost and Found?
VIOLENT J:…..
First, we have “Lost”. Some people are lost. They live life without any RELIGION, or RELIGION. Everything has a negative tint to it because they see the bad side to every situation. The cup is half empty instead of half full. They live life without RELIGION. They live in fear of death because they believe that’s the end of them. They live with the heavy burden of fear over them and it sucks. It’s painful living in the dark surrounded by fear all the time.
This might sound crazy to you, and I RELIGION [heh] it doesn’t, but religion is awesome because it provides people with RELIGION. Look at old lonely people…for many people, RELIGION is all they have. But RELIGION is all they need. They need RELIGION. We all need RELIGION. RELIGION is all we need. I’m not talking about a specific religion, any religion. RELIGION is all we need. I know that in today’s world, it’s uncool to be religious. You’ve got science constantly shutting down everything the religions say. You got 10,000 religions all battling each other about who’s right or wrong.
But for any person who truly believes in their heart in a greater power, they have RELIGION. They have RELIGION, they have RELIGION. They lead a happier life. They believe in an afterlife so they don’t fear death. I don’t know about you, but that’s how I want to be. I wanna look at the world in full color. I don’t want an iron mask or mortality stuck to my face. I wanna be free to see things in a positive way. I want faith and salvation.“The Missing Link” like all other Joker’s Cards is a character of the Dark Carnival. If you live in the dark without RELIGION, “The Missing Link” will ignore you. Your link will be missing, he won’t come to you because you live without RELIGION. He will hide from you behind his mask. He will avoid you. Your link will be missing, you will not be grounded, you will not be complete. Instead you will be lost, in a freefall going nowhere. But if you can somehow find RELIGION, truly in your heart, if you can find RELIGION somehow in today’s day and age… if you can find RELIGION in a higher power, of any religion, if you live with RELIGION, he will come to you, he will come to you and complete your link. You will be found. You will be grounded. You will not fear death. You will see life in full color. you will look at life in a positive light and you will know in your heart there is an afterlife.
This world is set out to scare you. The whole world is based on fear. Look at the news. Look at all the murder shows on TV. If you have RELIGION in your heart, you wont fear any of that shit. Your link will be completed. You won’t wear that heavy iron mask on your face. You won’t carry that heavy burden of fear and worry with you in your life. You can live your life completed. Your link will be found and you will be complete. I RELIGION [heh] that makes sense. That is “The Marvelous Missing Link.” All Joker’s Cards leave you with a question to ask yourself. “The Marvelous Missing Link’s” question is, “Is your link Lost or Found?”
see, I would have done the opposite. replace all the words with one, but all the words should be faith. because faith is all that matters, not what book you read, not what deity you believe or dont believe in. Faith is simply that, faith. I have faith that when I go to sleep tonight, I will wake up in the morning. I also have faith that someday I will be rich. do to that faith, i have drive. That drive gives me meaning.
you read into it on the polar opposite as I do
FTW, im agnostic
8:28 pm
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May 22, 2012
8:29 pm
April 29, 2013
i would think that ABK would probably be over at MNE pretty quick if that were to happen. boony andd hoodoo and AMB. meh, dont care what happens one way or the other
i say sadly, cuz that might mean that hoodoo, boondox, abk, and amb would vanish. i dont much care if amb vanishes, or abk or boondox, for that matter, but a lotta juggalos would care.
8:30 pm
April 29, 2013
scruffy said
ganjadude said
I have faith that when I go to sleep tonight, I will wake up in the morning.but… do you recognize that someday that faith will be in vain…?
oh of course, but think about it like this
what is better
going to sleep in fear that X is going to happen (boogie woogie wu)
or going to sleep with faith that everything will be fine??
and on the day that is is, i wont wake up to know it, so I enjoyed my life, instead of living in fear.
8:35 pm
March 30, 2013
Lucky, to answer the questions… the briefest versions..
All fights were in either self-defense or overly passionate vengeance. I stand by all of them. I am neither proud not ashamed, though.
Id been over the jail thing before, but in short it was also self defense. Long story. But id also been arrested for fishing with an out of state license in NC. All based on me believing a compulsive liar that I was legally allowed to fish as long as it was live bait only. Wrong!
I didnt have a heavy abuse with inhalants, more sporadic with friends. I thought Id use that as an example to follow the “good” facets of my life. It was “good” then “bad” etc for my mini composition.
I do not abuse any psychoactives besides an occasional steady night of beer. I smoke cannabis, drink beer, have a cup or three of coffee per week, do not smoke ciggs, have never been on any medications. Used to do tons of hallucinogens and such.
I do not think you think I am stupid, as you basically explained from your rebuttal. I apologize for my typed tone and such, I am exhausted and can only express so much with this damned cell phone typing.
I respect your views. Im a Christian hater at times, but that is primarily for the down south fucks I worked and lived with in NC. They changed my life.forever, in a wretched way.
8:37 pm
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May 22, 2012
ganjadude said
what is better
going to sleep in fear that X is going to happen (boogie woogie wu)
or going to sleep with faith that everything will be fine??
and on the day that is is, i wont wake up to know it, so I enjoyed my life, instead of living in fear.
okay.
but then, what makes faith such a grand, life-affecting factor, if it has such a small significance?
minimize it to such terms, and faith isnt any more important than laundry.
less, really, since fear doesnt prevent sleep, just impedes it. but ya gotta do the laundry no matter how you feel about it.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
8:50 pm
March 30, 2013
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September 18, 2012
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July 15, 2012
9:04 pm
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February 15, 2014
9:19 pm
September 18, 2012
To add on to that Twiztid convo, this is why I’ve always felt there was some kind of bitterness between Mono/Twiztid and Psy/ICP.
Monoxide Child: We’re just artists. It ain’t like it used to be. They run the company. It’s crazy because people attack us for everything. ‘Why isn’t my pre-order here??’ ‘Why isn’t your album getting promo’ed?’ ‘Why don’t you have a video?’ All we have control over now is recording our record. That’s it. Record the CD. If they don’t launch merchandise then they don’t launch merchandise If they don’t promote the record they don’t. If they sign Hutch, they sign Hutch. Nothing they do have a reflection on me and Jamie because we have no input on it. It’s not like it used to be where everybody would sit down and come to an agreement on things. Now it’s like the company, and the artist. I like it. I would much rather just worry about Twiztid. It’s easier this way.
If this statement was true than why would they make MNE?
That was either right before Abominationz or right after.
9:32 pm
September 18, 2012
LuckyNumbrXIII said
scruffy said
and yes, im not stupid, i saw that he was doin precisely the same fuckin thing.
I swear I wasn’t.
I genuinely am concerned with the anti-Christian sentiment. Not just in these forums, but in society in general. People dismiss it, but it’s real. It’s like, “We are having a problem.” “Yeah, well, fuck you because The Crusades.” Thanks, society!
Yeah, I did say something along the lines of high school dropouts. I forgot the exact quote. You can ask my stenographer Lucem for the exact wordage. I was being pushed beyond my limits and I lashed out. It happens. Since it was most likely Lucem that I was mad at, I apologize to everyone but him.
9:35 pm
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May 22, 2012
whats a ballade?
anyway…
krunkazphuk said
Fear may be the mind-killer for some, motivation for others. What I’m getting from this thread is that some Juggalos will never look at the Dark Carnival as an ultimatum.
im not sure what you mean by this, exactly. interesting way to put it, though.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
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