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2017 The Year of The Shade?
January 1, 2017
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I hate to be this guy. I really do. But, does anybody else feel like the New Years news and happenings that came so quickly was undercut in its freshness by Psy and MNE throwing shade on each other as though umbrellas were lawn darts? It’s a fucking bummer, man. 

I’m less concerned about the actual internet sissy fight than I am with the impact this shit has on the fans and our culture. In the wake of it all I see a lot of Juggalos on either side of the aisle pulling that “You ain’t a Juggalo if you xyz my d” rah rah that I always hated regardless of the context. What makes it different this time around is that this year is supposed to be the year where we unite to make a declarative political statement to the outside world. Like it or not, MNE has expanded the scope of the culture the same way Strange’s camp did years ago (and looking at it objectively, ex Psy people not withstanding, they’re just doing what the underground has done on its own for years). The best part is that there’s a lot of good music to enjoy now, so strictly as fans of the music we win regardless.

I’m not faulting anybody specifically. The finer aspects of it all is a mystery, and not really our mess to clean anyhow. It just sucks that the keepers of the kingdom have to be this way publicly in the wake of things that are so much bigger than the business and  the egos. I just feel like it was bad form and a shit start to the new year.

 

tl;dr I hate when mom and dad fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggghhhhht

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January 1, 2017
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Beef volume 17

#yearofthebeef

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January 1, 2017
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Its gotten to the point now where even the biggest dumbest whoop whoop-alo knows that ICP and Twiztid really dont like each other anymore. All the digs and back n forth over the past 4 years and its still going on. There is obviously serious animosity on both sides no matter how much they pretend that everything’s cool.

Its been bubbling for years and this may be the instance where it boils over to the point there’s no coming back from it. Madrox is still on twitter replying to people and throwing shade. He even refers to psychopathic as “The competition” in one tweet saying that they put out shit music. Either this will all be swept under the rug yet again and they’ll go back to pretending to like each other or the gloves will finally come off and shit will hit the fan big time.

Either way, Juggalo Day/Weekend will be very interesting.

January 1, 2017
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I’ve lost so much respect for Twiztid since leaving Psychopathic. Not because they left. I fully back that if they had a problem with the way they were being handled or personal problems with people at the label that they would go off and do their own thing. It’s the way they have done it all. They’ve been underhanded and sheisty about the whole thing since this all started. They’ve thrown sneak disses and little jabs every chance they’ve gotten only to eat their words like bitches when asked to take a firm stand on what happened and how they really feel. They’ve scavenged every scrap they can get their hands on off Psychopathic with seemingly no regard as to how they obtain said scraps. They sit there in interviews and talk that ”they’re our brothers, it’s all love” bullshit while anyone with half a brain can see it in their faces that they’re full of shit. They’ve copy and pasted every PSY business practice into MNE to the point where it’s just pathetic. And don’t get me wrong, a lot of good has come from MNE, as well, but all the sheisty shit reveals the true nature of Jaime and Paul and has just left a bad taste in my mouth. 

I told myself that if Twiztid Signs another Psychopathic artist in a sketchy manner that I’m done supporting them and MNE and this was the sketchiest move they’ve made, by far. You can tell by the aftermath that there weren’t any conversations with PSY about this so I’m done, even though I fuck with G-Mo-Skee heavily. Guess I’m stealing his shit from now on… Sorry G-Mo. haha

Bottom line, Twiztid wants to crush Psychopathic. They don’t want to co-exist. They want to be the big dogs. They’ve played nice because they knew without ICP and their fan base they wouldn’t have shit, all the while sneaking, plotting, and planning on how to blow their label up to a point where it can function on its own without the majority of Juggalo support. I think that time has come and I’ll bet you see Twiztid let their true feelings be known know.

The worst part about this is that the people at PSY are too disconnected from their fan base and music in general to seek out real underground talent and be an actual competitor with MNE.

January 1, 2017
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Yes! Yes! The tears have started! Oh dear god yes!

January 1, 2017
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Where’s all the people claiming there was no beef now

January 1, 2017
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BZA said
Where’s all the people claiming there was no beef now  

Making nachos.

January 1, 2017
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am not choosing sides  

January 1, 2017
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No one said you have to? It’s just music.

January 1, 2017
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TheFvckinKreeper said  
I hate to be this guy. I really do.   

no you dont. 

BZA said 
It’s just music.   

BZA said, less than an hour before 
Where’s all the people claiming there was no beef now   

yeah.  just music. 

and mad dramamongering. 

 

carry on.  ill check back later and see if anybody got anything constructive outta any of this yack. 

placin no bets. 

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January 1, 2017
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I’m just tired of all the subliminal shit. 

January 1, 2017
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A Juggalo label signing Juggalo rappers. I’m shocked!

Where was YW supposed to go? Native World?

If YW left Psy or if Psy kicked him out then what’s the big deal about him signing with MNE?
Why does Psy care so much?

Props to MNE for the smart business decisions.

January 1, 2017
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Rosco said  
A Juggalo label signing Juggalo rappers. I’m shocked!   

right?    

If YW left Psy or if Psy kicked him out then what’s the big deal about him signing with MNE? 
Why does Psy care so much?   

my impression, they dont. 

mne i have less of an impression…  but i bet if you took a survey, most of would say they dont care, either. 

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January 1, 2017
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Rosco said
A Juggalo label signing Juggalo rappers. I’m shocked!
Where was YW supposed to go? Native World?
If YW left Psy or if Psy kicked him out then what’s the big deal about him signing with MNE?
Why does Psy care so much?
Props to MNE for the smart business decisions.  

i hear you,consider one other possible scenario. Say Jumpsteady got pissed off and told him to go back to denver and leave him alone for a while(which is understandable). He gets upset at the treatment and goes to MNE behind their back, records the EP that is full of some shittalking, than tells Rob And Joe a month ago that he plans to leave after Rob already said he was still on the label so its all good, wouldnt that change it?

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January 1, 2017
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Chris said
i hear you,consider one other possible scenario. Say Jumpsteady got pissed off and told him to go back to denver and leave him alone for a while(which is understandable). He gets upset at the treatment and goes to MNE behind their back, records the EP that is full of some shittalking, than tells Rob And Joe a month ago that he plans to leave after Rob already said he was still on the label so its all good, wouldnt that change it?  

Hmm…
You have a point. If this was, in fact, the way it went down.

January 1, 2017
6:21 pm
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maybe he was stealin from em. 

maybe they were stealin from him. 

maybe they both stole from each other all the time, only one of em finally got caught. 

 

maybe otis poured grape koolaid into js goldfish tank as a joke, and it stained the glass, and then he refused to make up for it, and j never really got over the shit. 

id say this scenario is perhaps one or two percent more plausible than most of the ones ive read. 

 

i dunno.  i aint them. 

if i was psychopathic, i probably would not have otis on the label.  sounds about right. 

if i was magic ninja, i probably would sign otis.  sounds about right. 

in other words, the whole setup sounds about right, as is

 

only thing throwin it off, for me, is all these ninjas tryin to build it down into some kind of shitty dark romance for teens. 

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January 1, 2017
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scruffy said 
… some kind of shitty dark romance for teens.   

Isn’t that the name of Blahzay’s next single?

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January 1, 2017
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apparently, that is entitled ‘sleep creeper’. 

ill let the reader decide which is better.  or less worse. 

 

song, by the way, was not awful, or anything.  kinda hard for me to relate to, surely, but decent enough. 

so far this year, blahzays stories are better than the forums stories. 

 

[edit]

off the wall side note, but…

half a year later, i still cant hear about blahzay, and not hear in my head: 

‘… when the east is in the house… oh my god… danger…!’ 

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January 1, 2017
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I’ve got access to Vengance on Tidal but don’t want to listen to it. Any raw shade on it? 

January 1, 2017
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It’s all still juggalo… Twiztid is still twiztid and icp is still icp. Except twiztid reps a ninja logo and icp reps the hatchet man. All the beef and drama isn’t anyone’s fucking business(if there even is any).. The only thing magic ninjas is gonna do is raise the bar and make psychopathic get on there fucking A game and that benefits all juggalos. I don’t know why everyone just can’t sit back and enjoy the countless dope shit both labels have coming out. I don’t know why everyone tries to speculate on what they think they might know or about some little comment on twitter or something they heard from there sisters mothers boyfriends second cousin. Shit is laughable..who cares who’s on who’s label its all juggalo.. Everyone choosing sides like they forget its basically the same shit except some artist rep a ninja on there shirt now and others rep a hatchetman. I’m not directing this at anyone on here but all day on facebook I’ve just heard bitching about psychopathics roster and bitching about mne roster and every ones choosing sides and yada yada who gives a fuck who’s on who’s roster..its all still juggalo..its all the speculating, drama loving, social juggalo warriors that are gonna ruin the scene. Not psy or mne..and I can’t fucking stand juggalo s making YouTube videos trying to sound like they know what the fuck goes on behind the scenes at both labels..in the words of fat bobby Kelly..go fuck ya self 

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