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Monoxide Apologizes For Not Marching
February 4, 2022
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February 4, 2022
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now he better apologize for coke

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February 4, 2022
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He didnt need to apologize,  but props to Mono for doing so.

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February 4, 2022
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This is my opinion...

1st, I just don't dig a good chunk of what they drop. Point blank. No hate.

2nd, should of marched... buy I didn't even March sooo yeah....march. Thanks for apologizing?

3rd, what grinds my gears THEE MOST is... & again  just my opinion...creating a record label with intent to take over the the fan base you created with ur Brothers whilst being deliberately disrespectful and attempting to burn down them & their image? Too much? Am I wrong?

I have no hate for them... not much love anymore either. More like good luck with what ur doing? 

I do wish everything was still like it was once upon a time tho.✊👆   ✌🖕

                        What is the sum of:

                                   10 + 7

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February 4, 2022
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I just really think he must've seen the documentary and learned something.

Whether he learned that his resentments have clouded his judgment... or became sympathetic to something that he never let himself embrace before... or even if it's just some strange attempt to reconnect an old revenue stream via some personal strategy... or even if it's a bit of all of that, or neither... it was very unexpected and, for lack of a better term, nice to hear. 

The homie Split has some valid points, indeed. Ninjas won't forget all the bad blood. The subliminal and straight up disses on both ends. The cringe of all of that. 

But I, personally, wouldn't mind seeing it all over with. I'm not asking for a new Dark Lotus (as I lay here with DL tattoos and a first born named after the group, two deceased brothers - one we was cremated with a Carnival of Carnage tattoo on his flesh and the other killed while wearing his lime green Twiztid shirt and ultimately cremated with his Hatchet Man chain on him... nope, I wouldn't beg for that bittersweet awesomeness at all... sniff 😢 😊) or for MNE and Psychopathic to work together or meld into some kind of super label voltron and creat a series of dope pseudo-battle records of Soopa Villainz vs Soopa Heroez where ABK is a vigilante character like Punisher who only works for himself or maybe like a Native answer to Spawn and releases his own EP but guests on both Heroez and Villainz... but just to be able to not have to hear the disses anymore and the ire and waste of energy from both camps and all of us that listen and voice our opinions. I'm tired of it. It's not helping anyone. Maybe back in the awesome tape and CD era where the internet couldn't spoil the magic of everything for us, it would be different.. but im rambling... props, Paul. Let's see where this goes.

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February 4, 2022
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Split said
This is my opinion...

3rd, what grinds my gears THEE MOST is... & again  just my opinion...creating a record label with intent to take over the the fan base you created with ur Brothers whilst being deliberately disrespectful and attempting to burn down them & their image? Too much? Am I wrong?

I don't agree with this. And your opinion, so nothing but love.

I don't think Twiztid were/are trying to take over any fan base. I think they're trying to put out the best product they can and are doing it with a chip on their shoulder. How people receive that is another topic.

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Stalkz, Split
February 4, 2022
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yeah, they absolutely were not trying to take over any fanbase. im sure they wanted to *maintain* the juggalo fanbase, but them leaving had nothing to do with juggalos or any other fans.

why does everyone act like they know what happened or how any of them feels about anything?

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February 5, 2022
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Old Mr Dangerous said
 The cringe of all of that. 

This. All I want to end is the cringe.

Grown adults have no business being such bitches.

"ThEy StEaLeD fRoM uZ aFtEr We GaVe ThEm EvErYtHiNg!!11!!!"

"YeAh WeLl U wErEnT nIcE tO uS aNd MaDe Us DiSs EmInEm!"

None of this will stop the fact that Twiztid are gonna drop one Screamo Rock album for every rap album they release and it's not gonna stop the fact that ICP can't take a piss on time but maybe this gay beef will end one day and everyone can act like men again.

Lets be really,painfully honest though. None of that beef is really about the march anyway. The fact they didn't go on "The March That Changed The Universe" means nothing because Twiztid are fucking ICPs ex boyfriend (YW) and this cannot be forgiven.

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February 5, 2022
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Twiztid and ICP aren’t dropping anything I fuck with anymore. Get back to the roots or hang it up and just rock the classics live and make fresh remixes/comps…

Oh but drop one more Lotus and Rydas for ol’ times sake, please!

February 5, 2022
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Old Mr Dangerous said
I just really think he must've seen the documentary and learned something.

That's what I was thinking, too. However, notice that he doesn't say he was wrong on the substance. His and Jamie's position was that the whole ganglist thing is being blown out of proportion and that they haven't seen any evidence of actual discrimination. But he doesn't say that they were wrong on that, he basically says: whatever the facts are, we should have been there because you wanted us there. Kinda like a husband going "I shouldn't have talked to you like this and I am sorry for having hurt your feelings. *mumbling under his breath* eventhough I was right.."

Not saying his apology wasn't good enough or anything, it's nice and all, I am just curious what his take on the whole thing is now. Like, does he believe they were wrong and their issues with ICP clouded their judgement? Or does he just regret not doing whatever Juggalos want them to do all the time. Maybe he believes the former but says the latter out of pride and wanting to save face. Who knows, when it comes down to it, none of this is extremely important. It is mildly interesting, however.

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February 5, 2022
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Paul's is a jerk! He wants that Juggalo money! He wants that Juggalo crowd at shows! He fuked the family! Fuk him and MNE! 🖕🤡🖕

replacing my heart with a liver, so I can drink more and care less!

February 5, 2022
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I was glad they didn't do the March, I thought that shit was immensely stupid. I fully agreed with his "insinuation" back then that it was an attention grab by ICP. A smart attention grab that got the attention of a lot lot lot of people, but to me the March was nothing more than a bigger louder Lienda/Ray Day in an era where everyone's now moved by political discontent instead of MTV and Sam Goody.

 

Not saying the gang designation didn't hurt people, but I am saying ICP took that reality and turned it into an advertisement. 

 

I do like the apology though, if only because it means Mono might stop being such a smug bitch about how right he is about leaving and shit. Like, in a perfect world, they'd have just left and done their thing cuz it's what they wanted to do and we could have all just let it be what it is and enjoyed the products from both groups, but the fact that each side has such a strong conviction and a need to be better than the other is so gross to me. Just be ICP over here and Twiztid over here and stfu. 

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February 5, 2022
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Stalkz said
I was glad they didn't do the March, I thought that shit was immensely stupid. I fully agreed with his "insinuation" back then that it was an attention grab by ICP. A smart attention grab that got the attention of a lot lot lot of people, but to me the March was nothing more than a bigger louder Lienda/Ray Day in an era where everyone's now moved by political discontent instead of MTV and Sam Goody.

 

Not saying the gang designation didn't hurt people, but I am saying ICP took that reality and turned it into an advertisement. 

 

I do like the apology though, if only because it means Mono might stop being such a smug bitch about how right he is about leaving and shit. Like, in a perfect world, they'd have just left and done their thing cuz it's what they wanted to do and we could have all just let it be what it is and enjoyed the products from both groups, but the fact that each side has such a strong conviction and a need to be better than the other is so gross to me. Just be ICP over here and Twiztid over here and stfu.   

Facts

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February 5, 2022
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I was more interested in the fact that he said in the stream, there will never be a hok tour... weak....

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February 5, 2022
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The Warlock said
I was more interested in the fact that he said in the stream, there will never be a hok tour... weak....  

Now that pisses me off

 

Holy shit the last like six of my math equations to post have been 17, is it a sign?!? 

February 5, 2022
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someone should make a thread where we can vote, who has the best pre-psy catalog??

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I mean, it'd be a fun convo but the answer is obviously Esham. Swag Toof was great, HOK is legendary and extremely important to me, but Esham is... Esham. 🤷‍♂️

I enjoy 2 Krayzie Devilz and Krazy Klan/Native Funk as much as the next ninja but they barely even enter the conversation with the rest tbh.

If we're counting ROC for his one psy album then Halfbreed and Level Jumpers are up there for me as well, but they're no E. 

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Stalkz said
I mean, it'd be a fun convo but the answer is obviously Esham. Swag Toof was great, HOK is legendary and extremely important to me, but Esham is... Esham. 🤷‍♂️

I enjoy 2 Krayzie Devilz and Krazy Klan/Native Funk as much as the next ninja but they barely even enter the conversation with the rest tbh.

If we're counting ROC for his one psy album then Halfbreed and Level Jumpers are up there for me as well, but they're no E.   

Interesting take.. I mean, output-wise, trailblazer-wise, then Esham definitely wins that discussion. I have personal favorites though, especially that "Rain From the Sun" by Native Funk. Super nostalgic to me, and that likely instills some favoritism on my part. 

I would say, for my own favorite pre-Psy back catalouges:

1. ABK for Native Funk and Krazy Klan

2. Esham

3. The ROC for LeveL Jumpers (so slept on) and House of Krazees

4. Twiztid for House of Krazees and Mr. Bones solo albums

5. LaveL for his solo stuff and Krazy Klan

6.The rest, I guess. I forgot about Cold 187um , Breed... I dunno I'm too stoned to think too much harder now

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Stalkz said
I mean, it'd be a fun convo but the answer is obviously Esham. Swag Toof was great, HOK is legendary and extremely important to me, but Esham is... Esham. 🤷‍♂️

I enjoy 2 Krayzie Devilz and Krazy Klan/Native Funk as much as the next ninja but they barely even enter the conversation with the rest tbh.

If we're counting ROC for his one psy album then Halfbreed and Level Jumpers are up there for me as well, but they're no E.   

 

yeah it's almost not fair to include Esham, it's like if Riddlebox & Milenko dropped before ICP signed to reel life.. then they dropped the 6ths.. BUT just because I'm a big fan of the AMB & Esham catalog, doesnt mean most ninjas are.. Ive heard so much times over the years, ninjas say they only know esham from the boondox song...

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Old Mr Dangerous said

3. The ROC for LeveL Jumpers (so slept on)   

Fuckin slept on indeed, Simply Complx literally changed my life in a big way. I just started to experience crippling depression and suicidal ideation when that album hit me and I can't thank them enough for it. I used to talk to Skrapz on MSN Messenger a lot too and he and F.R. recommended all these zen and meditation focused books to me.. Absolutely indispensable.

 

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.. Ive heard so much times over the years, ninjas say they only know esham from the boondox song... 

😧🤢That's literally tragic 

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