King Lucem Ferre said

I'd argue the best these artists have to offer have roots in reality using the gimmick as an exaggerated expression of themselves and their lives.  

Well said. This is why im not buying Bukshot. 

chops said
And to think the music that created this whole juggalo scene is based off a couple suburban white kids that used to play pretend that they were bloods and crips. And they rap about an imaginary carnival. Music is supposed to take you on a journey. By your request these 50 year old guys should be rapping about going to the store for groceries or watching their kids play little league or about sitting on the patio grilling a steak. Is that exciting to you? Keep shit unreal, entertaining and fun. Don’t get generic and try to entertain me with your boring ass life. I got one of those already.   

You obviously missed my point by at least 6 miles and focused on a tongue-in-cheek comment buried in everything I wrote. That's cool though. Im not going to sit in a back and forth discussion about which artists are engaging and why... because its clearly upsetting you and thats the last thing I'd want. I just want you to be happy.

Maybe have a look at the part where I mentioned music having a personality. Maybe look at all "Juggalo" artists and then look at how they come across in the music they make, how they come across on social media, other projects they are involved in etc. Is every song about how theyre a gangsta or how they murder people? Do they sometimes have a message in their music? Do they make concept albums? Do they vlog? Do they just constantly spam their social media with their own promo or talk about themselves, in character, constantly or do they actually have something to say?

Bukshot, for example (remember, just my opinion) has nothing. Everything he does on social media is promo, every song is "gangsta" (even when he does something "heartfelt" its like 2pac doing Dear Mama (and im not buying it from him)), his music has not evolved, ever... Theres nothing about this guy thats appealing to me.

ICP saying they will slap the skin off someones face isnt real... Blaze isnt really dead... yes I know this... but Id rather listen to them all day, for all of the above reasons.

But chill. Its ok to like it. Me saying its shit, doesnt mean its shit. Just means I think its shit.

Its also ok to get upset at this post. Its pretty patronizing. I did that on purpose.

jiggles the clown said
Wait. Yall mean the mother fucker that pretends to be a living scarecrow that murders people isnt "keeping it real"?

Hol the fuck up.

Since when!?!?  

Guess not so I guess that means that zombie guy that got shot and killed then decided the grave aint no place for him and his flava flave clock doesn't keep it real either???

Truly astonishing!!

Hol the fuck up.

Since when!?!?

chops said
And to think the music that created this whole juggalo scene is based off a couple suburban white kids that used to play pretend that they were bloods and crips. And they rap about an imaginary carnival. Music is supposed to take you on a journey. By your request these 50 year old guys should be rapping about going to the store for groceries or watching their kids play little league or about sitting on the patio grilling a steak. Is that exciting to you? Keep shit unreal, entertaining and fun. Don’t get generic and try to entertain me with your boring ass life. I got one of those already.   

If you're creative it's not boring. Realness often times gives some hard hitting music that you could never get from gimmicks or stories. While your point is completely on point for the genre, I'd argue the best these artists have to offer have roots in reality using the gimmick as an exaggerated expression of themselves and their lives.

chops said
And to think the music that created this whole juggalo scene is based off a couple suburban white kids that used to play pretend that they were bloods and crips. And they rap about an imaginary carnival. Music is supposed to take you on a journey. By your request these 50 year old guys should be rapping about going to the store for groceries or watching their kids play little league or about sitting on the patio grilling a steak. Is that exciting to you? Keep shit unreal, entertaining and fun. Don’t get generic and try to entertain me with your boring ass life. I got one of those already.   

That's pretty much what a lot of the recent country rap is about... they seem to only talk about riding dirt bikes and trucks, drinking beer and hating Hillary Clinton. Some is good but goddamn their subject matter is so fucking limited. Like they're terrified to talk about anything else.

Unless you're too busy riding J's dick. (I'm committed to this now.)

Cat Burgerler said

Is that juggalo music?  

Oh youre one of those people? I got to listen to it coz I listen to Twiztid and ICP? Cool story. 

Ill listen to music I like, all day ("juggalo music" or not) but Im not fucking with these old white men tryna tell me their gangstas, making music for literal kids, behind a superhero gimmick.

Ive not been able to take Boondox seriously since I used to follow him on Twitter in like 2012 and he spent a solid 6 months posting shit about some girl who broke up with him, like some single mother on facebook, who always posts low-key shit about her baby's dad and how hes a piece of shit and how she "dodged a bullet" when he left etc. 

You cant out yourself as a bitch, like that and expect to be taken seriously when youre telling me youre a gangsta and how youre mobbed up. 

No thanks... I like my 50yr olds to act like 50yr olds. I also like my music to have some personality. Whats Bukshots deal? Hes a generic rap guy who raps and makes music.

I'll stop now. I dont expect you not to like this shit, just because I dont buy it... but lets not pretend you have to like everything, just because its got a lot of views and its on a label thats affiliated with another artist that you like. 

I like Lex, Dont like G-Mo. I like Young Wicked, Dont like the other one (Bonez Dub?). I like ICP, Cant deal with Lyte or Ouija.

Get your own mind bro.

Noawareness said

Yeah sorry, I cant fuck with these guys. Regardless of this song having 750k views.

I hear that new Post Malone has like 10 Billion views... Never heard that either.   

Is that juggalo music?

Cat Burgerler said

Song has 750 thousand views   

Yeah sorry, I cant fuck with these guys. Regardless of this song having 750k views.

I hear that new Post Malone has like 10 Billion views... Never heard that either. 

mentalcaseproject said

Reverend Kane said
disagree. i do think that blaze may have replaced the lyte verse tho. blaze killed it. monoxide has one of the best verses imo. king iso raps fast but didnt say much imo which is my main issue with some chopper style rappers.  

at least Iso stuck to the comic book/Marvel theme more than Monoxide did

I mean, he at least mentioned Venom and Symbiotes. but that's literally it. the "theme" isn't really strong in the lyrics, TBH..

Crucifix kind of hit it a few times, and then there's the line about " step inside my fucking gauntlet"..Which, if he's Thanos would imply the person he's talking to is someone he cares about since the soulstone is the only one you can "step inside". at least if we're following MCU logic.

Boondox probably stuck to the theme the most. Which makes me think it was his idea.

My main point is...Even Bukshot and Claas didn't stick with the "theme" at all. So clearly it wasn't important to them at all.

mentalcaseproject said
that being said it'd be dope to hear the version with Lyte on it someday (either when the "beef" between camps is squashed or if Lyte ever leaves Psychopathic I guess)  

If I remember correctly, he never got to record his verse. He was scheduled to and it was already announced (and green-lit) but then he was told "no" last minute on his way to the studio. At least that's the public reason they gave, as far as I recall.