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June 18, 2014
2:33 am
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See, @lucem-ferre the problem is you’re the most closed-minded of all.  Reason being, you see things as black or white.  There’s just no middle ground with you.

Me the most closed minded of all? Coming from the dude who is mad at juggalos being stereo typed so you throw a bunch of stereotypes right back by calling these people hipsters or judging them with the assumption that their daddy’s paid for their educations. Then you come in and argue with people that you refuse to acknowledge the counter points of. How can you call me closed minded when you don’t read the posts of people you are arguing with?

 

No, everybody knows I don’t see things as black and white and I constantly tell people things are never that black and white. If you go back and read *gasp* many of the debates I’ve participated in I’ve put many things in a gray area. Especially when it came to that insane dude getting set free after cutting somebody’s head off. Everybody said that he should have been locked up for life and treated him like scum. He murdered, people saw it as black and white. I saw it as a grey area. He was insane, he had no clue what he was doing, he was not in his right mind.

Either have “intelligent conversation,” – that was put in quotes intentionally – or we’re reduced to guttural sounds and whathaveyou.  I do read a lot of the shit.  I just don’t click external links to people’s google docs where I have to download a video.  I recommend you don’t do that either.  Because that’s stupid as fuck.

 

Not true either. Everybody on here likes to goof off and joke around including me. (I’m the only one in the argument that actually was joking around once during it) I don’t go attacking everybody for not having intelligent conversations all the time. You were scrutinizing us for liking to debate and have intelligent conversation. All that as a pathetic back peddling defense on why you come with shitty arguments.

You DON’T read a lot of the shit, I proved that with the argument we had on Eminem. Not only did you not read my counter points (because you are too close minded to consider the opposing argument as being at all valid), you didn’t even read your own comments and I proved that with you misquoting not only me but yourself. Plus, NOBODY downloaded that dude’s google doc, but we did actually read the comments he posted up on the site before we went on condescending rants about how he is full of shit. But you, you are too close minded to actually consider understanding somebodies point of view before slamming their point of view.

Trust me, if you had to be on your A-game mentally for 12 hours a day straight… you would NOT want to come online to juggalo sites and whip out your 8th grade debate team notebook and have deep discussions about this shit.

 

This is just some crybaby, condescending, back peddling bullshit. Also a close minded assumption that people like @scruffy @slumerican502 @ltb @nemo @cheshyr @psyral-infection @patjoyce @novocaine @illtheclown etc. who all come equipped with intelligent and deep conversations and great debating skills don’t have to think or work as hard as you do. Like, @ocj_brendan graduated from college and STILL brought his A-game when it came to having deep discussions and debates as he was using all this energy on graduating. We have literally had rocket scientists come on here and have intelligent things to say.

Bottom line is, that stereotype is wrong.  Teenagers all act trashy nowadays.  They always did.  We’re just getting older, and we associate with 30-40 year old juggalos with families and everything.  Yes, some juggalos are down and out.  Some are happy working minimum wage, living in a studio, and smoking weed.  But so what?  If you’re not hurting anyone, why are you trash?  If you’re not living off the government for free, you don’t bother me.  If I’m paying for you to live, yes I will judge you all day until you get the fuck off welfare.  But if you’re taking care of shit, living your life how you want to… it pisses me off that these fucking “magazines” and trust-fund baby “comedy” sites just thumb their noses at juggalos all the time.  It pisses me off a lot.  When I graduated college, my dad didn’t give me $500k and tell me to start my own business.  I worked an $8.50/hour government job, got my degree, got a $15/hour job, worked my way up all the way to where I am today.  But for the most part, in my 20’s.  I would be considered “trash” by a fucker like you, and all you internet tough guys that just go to message boards to have “intelligent conversations.”  Let me tell you something, if you were having an intelligent conversation, you wouldn’t need to keep trying to belittle me and my stance on the subject.

 

All stereotypes are wrong. Because not every juggalo is a smelly stinky stupid meth head. I wasn’t defending that, I was just saying that sadly such a large fraction of juggalos are, so it justifies the jokes.

 

No, not all teenagers are trashy. That is a close minded stereotype. To be fair,  using inductive reasoning, majority of the trashy juggalos I’ve met were in their 30s to 40s. Most of the younger juggalos I met were not trashy.

 

I don’t think somebody is trash over doing drugs or being broke. I am not quite broke (cause I don’t spend my money out of paranoia) but I wash dishes for a living. I have done drugs. I may be trashy sometimes but I am not trash. The difference is that you don’t smoke meth in raggedy clothes with no ambition in life. You had ambition, you made something of yourself. You are not part of the juggalo population that I was talking about. I was talking about the stinky ass dirty ass shady welfare collecting meth heads that I know over populate the juggalo culture. It does not apply to you. Nor me. Nor most people on this website. But most juggalos I’ve met in person are exactly how they are depicted in that magazine. Even then I constantly tell people that  it’s bullshit they condemn them for living their lives the way they do. It’s not my life, I don’t give a fuck how they live theirs. I just don’t like hanging around those specific kind of people.

 

Oh, and what exactly is wrong with the first juggalo? It’s just a fat dude in paint drinking faygo. How is that insulting? Anyways, I agree, I too get sick of snobby critics looking down on us as if they are better than us. It’s bullshit. I just don’t throw fits over jokes.

 

By the way, don’t make me go and actually count off how many times YOU have belittled people for taking a stance you don’t like. Such as me when calling me immature for liking shock value and raven when you attacked him with your condescending comments based on what you assumed he said because you didn’t actually read his posts.

 

Anyway, the guy that photoshopped this dumb ass article has probably moved on to other pop culture references, or hiking up Maccu Picchu or whatever dumb shit people with too much time and money do.

 

To round this all off, you are just full of shit. Period. Coming up with bullshit excuses for every argument you come into as you misconstrue and put words in the mouths of the opposing views that you are too close minded to even take the time to actually read. All this with a condescending context sprinkled with back peddling bullshit claims such as “well I use my brain too much to want to use my brain here” all with a thick and creamy layer of self defining accusations (meaning that the many things you accuse others of doing or being defines you much more) spread all on top.

 

If you were as smart as you claim to be you’d stay the fuck out of these debates instead of getting mad when people call you out on bullshit and make you actually back up your claim. Since that is the point of the debate, to back up your claim. You don’t want to do that though, you just want to stick your nose in and say, “you’re wrong, I’m right” then leave.

 

Pee pee caca poo poo shire.

June 18, 2014
2:40 am
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Dude, Lucem, who the hell are you even swingin’ at at this point? You had directed your “You’re wrong, You’re wrong” thing at Lucky and now it’s on *me?!

Whatever, I’m done. I’m DONE. I am done…

You win. Juggalos are shit. You’ve convinced me. They deserve every rock thrown at them and were it not for the martyred exceptions such as yourself no one would have any reason to think (and shouldn’t) that Psychopathic fans are anything other than.

If only I could just stop being a fat, drug loving, moron I could enjoy the same “whatever it is” you get outta your fandom but… I doubt it.

Juggalos suck.

 

LOL, no it was at Lucky.

 

But now it’s your turn >:)

 

To be fair, I completely misinterpreted what you were saying. You were just saying that black face was an over exaggerated perception of blacks that nobody should take seriously just like this was.

 

But somebody else brought race and shit in so I lumped it all together.

 

All I consider being a juggalo is liking ICP. I’m just not into ICP like I was, but I do enjoy the culture and shit still. So I am technically I juggalo, I just don’t like identifying myself as a juggalo because I’d rather be known as me than as a juggalo.

 

June 18, 2014
3:34 am
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Dude,yall, there are a bunch of “trashy” juggalos stereotype or not. ICP made it their thing(well they used to) to talk about the broke shit. Got a couple food stamps folded in my socks type shit. They made it seem like it doesnt matter if you come from a poor or broken home. They took that scrubby shit and made it shine…So who else do you expect them to bring in? Theres ALWAYS exceptions of course but nobody should be surprised we get shit on. FUCK EM! I say wear the title like a badge of pride like we and the clowns used to before they became fucking apologists for us.

 

Also, as a side I wanna apologize if anyone thinks I come on here to flex my brain-cock. I try to mix in being serious and borderline retarded but I dont wanna come off as a douche. Read my serious posts in a tone of wonderment and not in the tone of a teacher or some jackass that thinks his shit dont stank(though I definitely am a jackass)

 

I would address more theres just too much going on here…Its a fucking mess lol

June 18, 2014
3:50 am
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When I say trashy I don’t mean people that are broke or poor and such. I just mean the stinky smelly homeless looking drama starting drug addicts. We all know that as of late they have taken over the culture.

June 18, 2014
6:03 am
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i dont know that.  

i know that lately a number of people have been fixating on that type of juggalo, but thats their lack of perception, and i dont feel like helping them.  

 

smelly drama-starting drug addict juggalos are way in the minority, lucem.  whatever points of reference youre basing your views on, they dont include hangin out with groups of juggalos, or youd know better.  

stop taking shit your computer tells you as factual, take your ass out there, where we are.  

 

you know, i spent a half a day in slc a while ago.  and while i saw no juggalos, the methheads abounded.  

so, id say its more likely just a local problem.  if anything.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

June 18, 2014
1:38 pm
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I don’t agree with you on that one, Lucem is one of the more intelligent cats on this site. Give it a week or two and you’ll probably be getting along. I used to argue with him too but I honestly have nothing but respect for him now. Chill out, he’s a good dude. Of course I love to argue with people on here too, so my opinion is undoubtedly biased. 

 

If you’re going to let one person drive you off this site, that’s just being a pussy dude. No offense, it’s just flat out being a pussy though. It’s admitting that he got so under your skin that he drove you away, that you couldn’t just simply ignore the comments. Ultimately it’s up to you, but expecting it to be all family love up in here is just bullshit too. We all have different opinions, and most of us happily share them. While a family love type deal sounds good in theory, seriously, can you imagine how dull that would be? Everybody kissing everybody’s ass, everybody agreeing on everything, shit would be horrible dude, horrible. Think about it. 

 

There’s an annoying unintelligent little fucktard up on here called the almighty smack who tried to have me under the illusion that he couldn’t see my responses and that he had in fact “blocked” me. It didn’t work out.

 

Don’t be like the almighty smack. Seriously, you’ll end up on crack and when you eat soft tender chinese chicken your teeth will fall out. Just…..don’t do it dude. Either way, lighten the fuck up. As Scruffy would say, rub some dirt on it. 

June 18, 2014
2:33 pm
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Hey look!!! the almightily ugly smackaholic took a picture with a tranny. Probably had to pay her/him to be in the photo, but that’s the most play his toothless ass has ever gotten in his life!!! Haha, so ugly

June 18, 2014
2:34 pm
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He must be groping his/her cock in that pic. Look how “Hard” he’s concentrating!!!

June 18, 2014
2:36 pm
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Oh, that’s right, he can’t smile. Dude doesn’t have any teeth. Hahahahaha, ugly bastard.

June 18, 2014
2:38 pm
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That the best you got? Recycling my insults towards you? Where’d Jamaicans come from? Huh?

 

Anyways, I notice that you didn’t deny grabbing that tranny’s cock either. Busted.

June 18, 2014
2:40 pm
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Poop Pee Vagina

June 18, 2014
2:41 pm
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^^Says the guy posing with the transvestite.

 

No such post exists, nice try.

 

Oh wait, I know, you can try to not block me again fucknuts.

June 18, 2014
2:43 pm
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Poop Pee Vagina

 

 

 

Thank you tkx2.

 

For the uninformed, he just agreed with me. Thank you.

June 18, 2014
2:50 pm
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That fathers day post was a joke. Saying it was a great excuse to get wasted all day without getting bitched at for being trashed in the afternoon. I don’t expect you to get the humor.

 

I told you my mom died (good riddance) because you were trying to use mom jokes against me. Doesn’t work or have any effect. And no, I’m not surprised that you are still confused.

 

Smoking marijuana does not make me a junkie. Alcoholic is debatable. And before you go calling people junkies, just whose teeth are falling out while eating soft foods smackey-poo?

June 18, 2014
2:52 pm
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But anyways, this is all far off what we should be discussing, that tranny in the picture who’s kissing you while you feel up on the cock. You love the cock. You’re all about the cock. Just look at how happy you are, go ahead, look at it.

 

That’s right, you fuckin’ love that shit. It’s so nice that you brought your significant other to the site. What’s his name?

June 18, 2014
3:09 pm
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Hahaha, if you say so smackadocious. That the best you got? Insulting my beer tastes now? Sam Adams wins awards all around the world, every year. What does Molson win? Or any Canadian beer?

 

See, I don’t have to make shit up. You lose your teeth at dinner and call others a junkie, must be nice to be delusional. Good for you. And that tranny pic. Not even a passable tranny. Woof woof. AND the tranny is kissing you. AND you’re enjoying it. Immensely. I mean, just look at you soaking up that tranny love……

 

And if I wasn’t joking on fathers day, which I was (I had a great day), I wouldn’t end the post on a high note wishing everybody a happy fathers day. But believe what you want, you have to being you. Like when your uncle sodomizes you and you pretend it’s madrox. Or when you pretend that that tranny isn’t so obviously a man. And the funny thing is, you posted that shit. No one had to go find it and say look at smack and that tranny. Nope. That was all you smackey-poo. 

June 18, 2014
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Sam Adams is the only American beer allowed in Germany. It’s also available throughout the United States. You really are retarded. look up how many awards Sam Adams has won, then post how many awards have gone to Canadian beers. It’s cool, I’ll wait…..

 

And I’m the one crying? Everything you just wrote is bullshit, and how could I cry, hung my pillow, and type? The shit you make up is pathetic, and shows what a sad little man you really are. The only thing more pathetic would be posting a profile pic where you’re getting kissed by a transvestite. Oh wait…..

 

And by the way, you STILL haven’t denied that’s a transvestite. I love when I’m right. 

June 18, 2014
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Who’s crying? I shave my head by choice (for the 57th time), living in a frozen country must numb the brain, hey?

 

And save your money for some dentures, so you can smile when the tranny’s rub up on you.

June 18, 2014
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What are you going to insult next, my favorite color? 

June 18, 2014
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If you insist smackey, whatever makes you feel better about making out with a tranny and losing your teeth every other meal. Whatever gets you through your day.

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