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The 0uter Space Thread
April 5, 2014
2:46 pm
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Psyral Infection
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My vote is the Tardigrades. They have survived all mass extinctions and can survive temperature ranges from -328 °F to 304 °F, pressure ranges from low pressure of a vacuum to more than 1,200 times atmospheric pressure, no water for nearly 10 years, can withstand 1,000 times more radiation than other animal, can undergo chemobiosis, a cryptobiotic response to high levels of environmental toxins, and can survive in the vacuum of outer space.

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April 5, 2014
2:48 pm
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and theyre cute as a button, too.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 5, 2014
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Hadn't heard of them before, Psyral... Thank you for the new reading material. Yeah, they're looking like a pretty likely candidate... But one thing I can't figure out... It says they can live for 10 years without food or water, but many of the extinction-level events have lasted considerably longer than that. So, what, are they cannibals as well? If they're the only thing that is left alive, and an event lasts a couple hundred or thousand years, don't they die out as well? 

April 5, 2014
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Mostly they only come out at night.....

Mostly.........

April 5, 2014
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the one thing that every extinction level event has in common, is they didnt get everybody.  

if you eliminate the top 99.9% of the food chain, there are still thousands of species out there to take up the slack, and evolve into whatever they evolve into.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 5, 2014
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Um, I just ran across something I hadn't read before... It goes without saying that the sun dying would also cause a mass extinction, right? Well... Nothing will be alive to see it, if this is true...

 

The eventual warming and expanding of the Sun, combined with the eventual decline of atmospheric carbon dioxide could actually cause an even greater mass extinction, having the potential to wipe out even microbes, where rising global temperatures caused by the expanding Sun will gradually increase the rate of weathering, which in turn removes more and more carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. When carbon dioxide levels get too low (perhaps at 50 ppm), all plant life will die out, although simpler plants like grasses and mosses can survive much longer, until CO2 levels drop to 10 ppm. With all plants gone, atmospheric oxygen can no longer be replenished (except by algae), and is eventually removed by chemical reactions in the atmosphere, perhaps from volcanic eruptions. Eventually the loss of oxygen will cause all remaining multicellular life to die out via asphyxiation, leaving behind only microbes. When the Sun becomes 10% brighter, microbes too will die out. This is the most extreme instance of a climate-caused extinction event. Since this will only happen late in the Sun's life, such will cause the final mass extinction in Earth's history.

April 5, 2014
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That's one thing people rarely take into consideration... Whether we colonize another planet in our galaxy or not may be irrelevant. Our sun will die one day, as all stars do. And when it does, or begins to, it'll likely happen with little warning.

 

It may have happened already.

April 5, 2014
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entrappedmind said
That's one thing people rarely take into consideration... Whether we colonize another planet in our galaxy or not may be irrelevant. Our sun will die one day, as all stars do. And when it does, or begins to, it'll likely happen with little warning.

 

It may have happened already.

 

It happened two days before the day after tomorrow.

Oh...My...God.......That's today 

April 5, 2014
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Sorry I'm super stoned on this new shit. I shall leave gracefully now, by going outside and staring into the sun until it dies.

April 5, 2014
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now we are talking about some extremely elongated timelines.  

  

remember, weve only been around for, what, ten thousand years?  

thats only around five hundred generations.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 5, 2014
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patjoyce said
Sorry I'm super stoned on this new shit. I shall leave gracefully now, by going outside and staring into the sun until it dies.

 

Second time I've ever literally laughed out loud on here, and I'll be goddamned if both haven't been your fault.

April 5, 2014
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scruffy said
now we are talking about some extremely elongated timelines.  

  

remember, weve only been around for, what, ten thousand years?  

thats only around five hundred generations.  

  

Well, of course, but it still bears consideration. I mean, how are we to know the age of the sun relative to the age of our planet or those that share the same system? (If we do know, forgive me, I'm ignorant of it and haven't taken the time to Google prior to replying)

April 5, 2014
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current thinking is that our sun will be dying off in something on the order of billions of years.  

  

loooooong time to get out of the system.  of course, by then, whatever the dominant earth species is, it will be far removed from human beings.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 5, 2014
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Can I get somebody to stop scruffy from responding to my posts? I mean, I keep thinking I know something, and here comes scruff dropping knowledge on me and pissing on my parade. ;)

 

Just kidding, my friend, I appreciate being set straight. Keep up the good work. Maybe, just maybe, one day I can return the favor (but I ain't holding my breath lol).

April 5, 2014
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real sorry bout that.  

  

i go to school here all the time.  everybody drops knowledge now and then.  

nearly everybody.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 5, 2014
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scruffy said
the one thing that every extinction level event has in common, is they didnt get everybody.  

if you eliminate the top 99.9% of the food chain, there are still thousands of species out there to take up the slack, and evolve into whatever they evolve into.  

  

The other thing about e.l.e.'s is that Busta Rhymes be rapping about them on his tthird album. 

 @scruffy we will indeed have plenty of time. There will be wars, natural disasters, famine, pestilence, cake and sodomy, but I am certain that our evolved future ancestors will create self sustaining space vessels, and colonize other planets. Shit, maybe we will bust out of this dimension and find other types of places to dwell, thur aren't even these planets floating in space. 

Remember when Roland busts out in the first book, @patjoyce ? He exits our universe and sees a gigantic purple blade of grass. 

April 5, 2014
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Hell yeah OMD, Dark Tower homie, I remember what you're talkin' about too. It's been awhile since I read the older Tower books, for some reason I thought that was the second book, but anyways, doesn't matter, good shit.

 

I have purple weed laugh Yay 

April 5, 2014
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Old Mr Dangerous said  
Remember when Roland busts out in the first book, patjoyce ? He exits our universe and sees a gigantic purple blade of grass.   

king?  

 

[edit]  uh, yeah...  figured it out.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 5, 2014
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scruffy said

Old Mr Dangerous said  
Remember when Roland busts out in the first book, patjoyce ? He exits our universe and sees a gigantic purple blade of grass.   

king?  

 

[edit]  uh, yeah...  figured it out.  

  

Mr. Scruffy, The Dark Tower is highly recommended by all the FLH posters that have had the pleasure. It is one of the finer things in life.

April 5, 2014
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No such thing as space and the Earth is flat. Truth. You all been lied to. laugh

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