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Anyone see The Matrix Resurrections?
January 28, 2022
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Dude movies come out online the same day they come out in theaters now, just pirate the shit  

I don't know how to pirate shit lol. 

But I did watch it a couple weeks back because the wife got HBO Max. I will have to re-watch it, as I got too inebriated to remember much of the second half, but it didn't seem too bad. However, I lost track of what was going on when they went to that eutopia type place with the girl.

I also didn't see any Trans shit shoved in my face. I just missed Crazy Larry (Lawrence Fishburn).

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I mean, I was excited about it because I'm a genderfag so I watched it as soon as it dropped, fully expecting it to have a much more significant focus on gender identity, and I obviously loved it, so our experiences couldn't be any different, so before I even respond, I'm obviously biased in a way that's completely opposite your bias, obviously. 

That being said, I feel like it's like watching Roots and being mad that racism was shoved in your face.. Why would you watch a 2021 reboot of a movie from the 90s with a heavy focus on gender dysphoria and transition if you don't like trans shit in your face? I get the idea of the first three (+ Animatrix) being digestible without considering or at least without focusing on that reading of it, but, as much as I don't agree that it was 'in your face/down your throat' myself, wouldn't you have to assume that a movie from a trans bitch walking around in a cybergoth costume every day, that's a reboot of a series you know to have a trans focus, released in the era of 69 gender options, would have an unavoidably clear trans focus? 
 Now, grant that I'm stoned and I was mostly blissfully glazed over in nostalgia when I watched it, so maybe I'm not remembering well, but which parts did you feel like trans identity was shoved in your face? Aside from Bugs being obviously non-binary, and like, one or two one-liners in the montage of the game dev bullshitting about what the matrix is about, I don't really know what would stand out to a cis person. Everything else was exactly as subtle as any other entry, like Trinity getting pissed off at her program husband for calling her Tiff standing in as a metaphor for deadnaming and shit, and I, a trans nonbinary person, didn't even see it that way until I just tried to google specific trans moments in the movie.
I'm just weary of people who complain about having things that are just basic human stories shoved in their face, it seems totally logical to you because you're just not into that, but by some weird coincidence it always just happens to be basic human stories about minority groups and marginalized people that the majority sees as gross or offensive (kinda like juggalos......). I have a hard time believing that doesn't translate into you having a worldview that sees that group as subhuman/undesirable. If you don't want to see it in a movie, you probably don't want to see it in real life, right? That's.... exactly what having a problem with trans people means. "Live and let live" doesn't work under the condition of "just keep it the fuck away from me".  You can not wish violence on us and still find us disgusting, but you can't pretend that that's not "having a problem" with us..  

Ok so I was typing out a full response to this but let just take your magnificent example of Roots. 

Roots is about racism/slavery. If Roots 2 came out and was about racism/slavery then cool. 

The original matrix wasn't ABOUT trans shit. Yeah it might have been an alagory but it was a fucking sci-fi action film. This new film is so drenched in trans propaganda, it's sickening. 

If the original was as blatant at this movie, I'd be cool with it. 

The examples you give are ridiculous and to say I have a problem with trans people because I don't appreciate someone's politics being rammed down my throat, by seducing me with nostalgia, is weak as fuck. 

Don't give a fuck if someone cuts their dick off and wears a tutu but don't make me sit through 2 hours of mediocre action and callbacks, just to get to the end and the whole thing be like "It used to be a man but now it's a woman, just like the person who made this movie lolololol".

You assume I'm pissed off because it's trans shit. 

I don't care what it is. If a new star wars movies came out and it was just about how straight white men are oppressed, I'd be equally as pissed off.

January 28, 2022
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I also didn't see any Trans shit shoved in my face. 

You must have missed a lot of it.

I can't even count how many times they said something to the effect of "you might look this way on the outside but you are what you feel on the inside" or "how you see yourself is the real you". And the whole film ended with "The One" becoming a woman, when it used to be. Man. Just like the director.

There are two Half's to "the one" and it was useless until the woman half was awoken. 

The originals were basically about transitioning and that's cool. It was very clever and well done. This one lost all subtlety.

Fuck this film. 

As a straigh white male, I would be so disappointed with myself if I made a movie, preaching so hard about straight white men.

Just my opinion though. I'm glad people liked it. 

January 28, 2022
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As long as you're not bumping any Tom Macdonald, we good.

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Ok so I was typing out a full response to this but let just take your magnificent example of Roots. 

Roots is about racism/slavery. If Roots 2 came out and was about racism/slavery then cool. 

The original matrix wasn't ABOUT trans shit. Yeah it might have been an alagory but it was a fucking sci-fi action film. This new film is so drenched in trans propaganda, it's sickening. 

If the original was as blatant at this movie, I'd be cool with it. 

The examples you give are ridiculous and to say I have a problem with trans people because I don't appreciate someone's politics being rammed down my throat, by seducing me with nostalgia, is weak as fuck. 

Don't give a fuck if someone cuts their dick off and wears a tutu but don't make me sit through 2 hours of mediocre action and callbacks, just to get to the end and the whole thing be like "It used to be a man but now it's a woman, just like the person who made this movie lolololol".

You assume I'm pissed off because it's trans shit. 

I don't care what it is. If a new star wars movies came out and it was just about how straight white men are oppressed, I'd be equally as pissed off.  

Well our views about it are entirely incompatible, but thanks for talking about it with me 😊

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I don't know how to pirate shit lol. 

https://www.qbittorrent.org/

Download and install^

https://thepiratebay.org/index.html 

https://1337x.to/

 

^search and download whatever you want 

 

Be aware that a VPN is a great idea for torrenting, as every great now and again you'll get a torrent that is actually hosted by the copyright owner looking to entrap and issue infringement claims to IPs that download it, but a) I've been DMCA'd (issued a warning regarding the digital copyright millennial act, aka given a copyright strike) more times than I can count, and b) your IP doesn't actually give a shit about you infringing on copyrights they don't profit from, they're just legally required to inform you that a strike was issued, and they *reserve the right* to eventually cut your internet after a series of warnings, but they absolutely never will unless you're like, personally hosting a major media torrenting hub. 

 

Also I live in Brattleboro so I understand if you're still on DSL and this is just out of your download speed's reach entirely lol

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Stalkz said

Well our views about it are entirely incompatible, but thanks for talking about it with me 😊  

It's cool. I don't care what anyone beleives. I just don't like anyone's beleifs being rubbed in my face or being coerced into sitting through someone else's beleifs.

If they were like "There's a new Alien movie and it's just like the originals" then I went to watch it and it was 2 hours of some thinly veiled church story where it turns out the xenomorph was Jesus, I'd be pissed.

I don't force anyone to listen to my beleifs and I don't use what I beleive as a crutch for my lack of a personality so I don't expect anyone to do that to me.

But I pirated the movie so I'm basically a criminal. I have no real right to complain.

For the record, I'm super happy for all the men who have chopped off their dicks and are living a more comfortable life as a woman. Everyone should be happy and be allowed to get on with their lives cheers

 

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As long as you're not bumping any Tom Macdonald, we good.  

Like I said, I'm a straight white male and I don't have tendencies towards hating myself coz I'm a "fag" so this will never happen.

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Stalkz said

Well our views about it are entirely incompatible, but thanks for talking about it with me 😊  

It's cool. I don't care what anyone beleives. I just don't like anyone's beleifs being rubbed in my face or being coerced into sitting through someone else's beleifs.

If they were like "There's a new Alien movie and it's just like the originals" then I went to watch it and it was 2 hours of some thinly veiled church story where it turns out the xenomorph was Jesus, I'd be pissed.

I don't force anyone to listen to my beleifs and I don't use what I beleive as a crutch for my lack of a personality so I don't expect anyone to do that to me.

But I pirated the movie so I'm basically a criminal. I have no real right to complain.

For the record, I'm super happy for all the men who have chopped off their dicks and are living a more comfortable life as a woman. Everyone should be happy and be allowed to get on with their lives cheers

 

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As long as you're not bumping any Tom Macdonald, we good.  

Like I said, I'm a straight white male and I don't have tendencies towards hating myself coz I'm a "fag" so this will never happen.  

Yeah, like my homie who loves Trump but has never voted in his life, anyway. But still, you present better discussion than the LOUD MINORITY of racists on here, so keep on chatting.

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It's a huge pet peeve of mine when people start a verse/line with "and". He's got a good singing voice tho.

 

Turned it off before the pro wrestler drama queen came on. 

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That was the worst fucking song ever. Both of their heads should be cut off.

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That was the worst fucking song ever. Both of their heads should be cut off.  

Great for closet homo's and retards though. Everyone needs to have something to listen to.

If they just came out, theyd be a lot happier. That retard anger would subside too.

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Great for closet homo's and retards though. Everyone needs to have something to listen to.

If they just came out, theyd be a lot happier. That retard anger would subside too.  

I have crossed the line of annoyance of Tom Macdonald into true hatred, so technically, he has won. I just want it to stop. There isn't anything worse than him in the entertainment world, in my opinion. 

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I have crossed the line of annoyance of Tom Macdonald into true hatred, so technically, he has won. I just want it to stop. There isn't anything worse than him in the entertainment world, in my opinion.   

It's the manufactured controversy that makes him so pathetic to me. Like he woke up one day and said "everyone hates me coz I speak the truth!" When in reality, 1% of people hate him, 2% of people absolutely love him (to the point where they would take a shot in the mouth for him) and the other 97% have no clue who he is/don't care.

Just look at his YouTube comments and it's like thousands of fully grown men sucking his dick. 

People need to get better role models.

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...There isn't anything worse than him in the entertainment world, in my opinion.   

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trigger the soylies

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It's the manufactured controversy that makes him so pathetic to me. Like he woke up one day and said "everyone hates me coz I speak the truth!" When in reality, 1% of people hate him, 2% of people absolutely love him (to the point where they would take a shot in the mouth for him) and the other 97% have no clue who he is/don't care.

Just look at his YouTube comments and it's like thousands of fully grown men sucking his dick. 

People need to get better role models.  

Those YouTube comments are what got to me the most. Because (if the comment photos are accurate) there are like intelligent, grown ass women and minorities on there backing him as well. Perhaps they were compensated for these comments, but if not, that bothers me. If these people are genuine in their support for this dude, then we are in trouble.

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Those YouTube comments are what got to me the most. Because (if the comment photos are accurate) there are like intelligent, grown ass women and minorities on there backing him as well. Perhaps they were compensated for these comments, but if not, that bothers me. If these people are genuine in their support for this dude, then we are in trouble.  

bUt hE sPeEeEAaaaAksSsSs HiS mInNNnNnNnnnnnndddddddddddduuuuuhhhhhhh 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

 

People are enraged by modern society and are too ignorant to comprehend what's actually going on, how to discuss it, or anything close to how to go about changing it, so they glom onto anyone who can vomit up words in a way that lets them feel like they're not alone.

Like I said before I'm a fag/genderqueer, who grew up saying nigga a lot, so on one side, I'm obviously automatically weary of people who think like Tom (claims to), and on the other I'm a juggalo who's gonna say whatever the fuck I want, so I understand people's obsession with "freedom of speech" (which people seem to confuse with "freedom to access privately owned platforms and/or say whatever they want without repercussion") or the freedom to speak however they're used to speaking without having to alter their language to respectfully acknowledge people their language isn't set up to respectfully acknowledge. I get it. But the problem isn't what people want to say; when there's a problem, it's why they want to say it.

For example, obviously the way NoAwareness refers to trans people as dudes who wanna chop their dicks off and live as women is gonna be read by any trans person or ally as transphobic, but it's not, and it's not harmful to anybody for him to talk that way, because he's not saying what he's saying to hurt trans people. I genuinely don't think that in a culture that respected trans people and didn't view them as an Other he wouldn't talk about them that way, but that's neither here nor there. The point is he's not saying what he's saying maliciously. 

MacDonald, however, is saying what he's saying for no reason other than to get attention to a music career that otherwise wouldn't exist. I don't give a shit if he's saying anything offensive or wrong or not, I hate his garbage music because he's creating a romantic fantasy to manipulate people into paying attention to him, and it's appalling and painfully stupid to anybody who's not a fucking moron desperate for recognition of their worldview. 

The reality is that social media gave voices to people who weren't ready to have them, and now no actual change can be made because every point of contention that exists has millions of people too ignorant to genuinely discuss the issue doing so anyways, and Tom is capitalizing on that fact by exploiting a particular demographic therein, just like Fox News and CNN are doing. It creates strawmen for their fans to attack and destroys our ability to genuinely tackle an issue and come to a reasonable conclusion. People like this are intentionally spreading rhetoric that makes it impossible to reconcile with the other side, for attention and profit.

This is why I'm an anarchist. Conservatism, ie the refusal to progress beyond a current system and/or a desire to go back to an old one, and liberalism, ie the belief that the "free market" and the privatization of every aspect of public life will somehow lead to freedom and equality, are two sides of the same outrageous farce. There is no political agenda that is ever going to help anybody but a specific subset of rich people, they will only further divide us. While Tom Macdonald and Blair White are fighting with Mac Lethal and ContraPoints, and filling all of our heads with their unrelenting talking points that can't possibly ever resolve to each other, Trump and Biden out here like "s'time to make another million... And another went platinum 😎" (that's a Esham reference for any yall young niggas who ain't know) 

No war but the class war ✊ 

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just go on youtube and type in Tom MacDonald reaction video there are 1000's of them

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Buuuuuuut then I'd have to listen to Tom Macdonald to watch them.... Real catch-22 my niggih

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