October 3, 2022
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Alla Xul Elu in the Studio With Legendary Detroit Producer Mike E. Clark?!

Here is some freshness from the underworld of hip-hop. An authentic image recently emerged from Alla Xul Elu’s official social media pages with the forever face masked trio in the studio with legendary Detroit producer Mike E. Clark! Whoa! What kind of horror hip-hop madness could these four be cooking up in the studio?! Is it anyway related to the Venomous  5 collabo project with Twiztid?! Or a whole different record altogether?! Only time will tell! Stay tuned at Faygoluvers.net for more information regarding this mysterious  studio session with Mike E. Clark and Alla Xul Elu!

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    Faygoluvers Comments

  1. Jake Jeckel

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 05:41 pm GMT -5 at 5:41 pm

    So this should mean that MEC is wanting to make music again, or at some level is wanting to. Does this give us hope for a future ICP/MEC Joker Card in the near future, I hope so.

  2. BZA

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 05:43 pm GMT -5 at 5:43 pm

    Well if he’s working with MNE there goes his chances of working with ICP

  3. Noawareness

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 05:55 pm GMT -5 at 5:55 pm

    Mike doesn’t have that new sound ICP are looking for these days. His style and the fact he’s working with MNE probablyeans he’s dead to ICP. They have Devereaux now anyway. Who needs Mike Clark when you have a guy with a laptop and a drum plug-in for Fruity Loops?

  4. sleepy

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 06:01 pm GMT -5 at 6:01 pm

    I can’t lie and say it isn’t disappointing to see that MEC seems to have chosen working with MNE rather than ICP, but on the other hand I’m glad to see him working in general, plus I know it’s blasphemy but I wasn’t feeling the sound of Bang Pow Boom and Death Pop very much.
    Edit- AXE has some good songs too, and I’ve been listening to Project Deadman lately so I’m actually a little bit hype about this

  5. BZA

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 06:24 pm GMT -5 at 6:24 pm

    In the interview that came out with MEC a few months back he said that he left around 2000 because he wasn’t getting paid, everyone had cars and houses and he wasn’t getting what he was owed.. so there’s probably some bad blood with that especially if that’s what ended up happening again after death pop

  6. BZA

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 07:29 pm GMT -5 at 7:29 pm

    Yeah his last tweet before axe was thanking twiztid for their last album, he’s definitely gone

  7. randy gall

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 07:36 pm GMT -5 at 7:36 pm

    man people domt never talk shit abuot seven doing beats for icp and twiztid so maybe mike clark will

  8. YungCrowbar

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 08:01 pm GMT -5 at 8:01 pm

    just out of curiosity, when was the last time Seven worked with ICP?

  9. Tcraze340

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 03:23 pm GMT -5 at 3:23 pm

    I don’t know if it’s the last time he worked for them but he produced four beats on FFF

  10. YungCrowbar

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 08:00 pm GMT -5 at 8:00 pm

    i wouldn’t say he’s dead to ICP just yet. he’s working with AXE, not Twiztid. and AXE made some positive comments about ICP not too long ago so it seems they have nothing against the clowns.

    but all we can do is speculate and i highly doubt we’ll ever get true answers lol. and i deff prefer Yum Yum over Death Pop so this is whatever to me.

  11. Naptownjuggalo

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 08:50 pm GMT -5 at 8:50 pm

    I personally like icp tracks that are produced by MEC a lot better than the rest. They did give him a shout out in those liner notes, so I wouldn’t think they have cut him out. Anyways I’ll have to definitely check those tracks out. There’s not much he has his hands in that I haven’t liked.

  12. .R.A.M.

    Comment posted on Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 10:49 pm GMT -5 at 10:49 pm

    Str8jaket has been producing for both ICP and Twiztid too, not everyone is taking sides in their beef. ICP has squashed beef with pretty much everyone else the had beef with. Chuck Miller, Esham, Tom Dub, they even brought Corp Robinson back at this years Gathering. I honestly feel they will eventually squash whatever they have

  13. MisterMime

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 12:39 am GMT -5 at 12:39 am

    Im down to hear this shit. MEC got that soopa carny type of sound. But itd be sad to see him never work with ICP again. Shit, maybe this will make Twiztid’s new shit sound less l

  14. MisterMime

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 12:40 am GMT -5 at 12:40 am

    Im down to hear this shit. MEC got that soopa carny type of sound. A.X.E. already sounds dope af production wise But also itd be sad to see him never work with ICP again. Shit, maybe this will make Twiztid’s new shit sound less like goats getting rammed and more like some dope ass wicked shit.

  15. Wes-Sider

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 02:06 am GMT -5 at 2:06 am

    MEC has been very active musically as of late. He just released a new acid-techno EP (under the alias of Mike Henk), His solo album last year was straight up titty-ballz, and he’s dropping a new single in like a week:

    http://www.mikeclark.com

    http://www.pulsarrecordings.com

  16. Mr. Fucker

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 02:49 am GMT -5 at 2:49 am

    In the shoot interview w Chris Hansen, icp said MEC was the one and only homie that gets a pass to do hoe shit to them. Twz is fr fr dead to icp. I think the end of the yum yum shout outs solidify that, not to mention all the twz disses thru out yum yum. MEC is of course behind icps most iconic sounds but FFF and yum yum were both really gd, MEC isn’t necessary any more. That’s not to say I wouldn’t like to see mec produce for icp again. But again FFF and yyb are the best of the 2nd deck so far, I want them to keep going in the direction they’re in.

  17. BZA

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 04:52 am GMT -5 at 4:52 am

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Nickow420/status/1458260517424820224

  18. pleasegodno

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 05:18 am GMT -5 at 5:18 am

    What would be pretty cool is since there are 3 ‘seeds of yum yum’ maybe give them to three producers. Shaggy the airhead, Devereux, and MEC. Mostly to get mike back into an ICP mindset if he’s actually gonna be working with them again. Which judging by the tweet, he might be.

  19. Mr. Fucker

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 07:25 am GMT -5 at 7:25 am

    I like this idea

  20. Noawareness

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 06:06 am GMT -5 at 6:06 am

    Ill believe it when I see it. I think it’ll come down to money. ICP can either pay Mike Clark the money he asks for/deserves or they can buy beats from their favorite bedroom producers. Depends how much ICP want to invest in the next card and how happy they are with the sound that Devereaux & Shaggy The Airhead are producing for them. Unless Mike is willing to do it for the love.

  21. LAZYLAZ

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 07:06 am GMT -5 at 7:06 am

    Missing Link is widely considered the worst studio album(s) put out by ICP, and it’s 100% down to the weak bedroom/soundcloud producer sound by yw while he learned on the job… They’ve done it again with Dev and Air Head but this time spent more effort touching those tunes up with additional production…
    It works for Ouija because that’s just his style and always has been… But when older folk try to do the young blood thing, it’s just cringy…
    If Yum Yum was an EP or sideshow type thing, fair enough… But shouldn’t have been a Joker Card…
    I agree with Noawareness here… You get what you’re willing to pay for…

  22. Mr. Fucker

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 07:28 am GMT -5 at 7:28 am

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Mikey the Magician produce for icp lol would probably never happen, but the beats would be guaranteed to be on point.
    MTM hit em w the heat!

  23. Noawareness

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 07:29 am GMT -5 at 7:29 am

    I just worked it out (slow work day today). Ouija Macc released 5 projects in 2020, totaling 65 tracks. I chose a bunch of them and checked for the Devereaux tag and every song i picked had it. So lets say 55 of those tracks use Devereaux beats. 55 usable beats for a single artist, in 12 months. Thats not a quality producer. A quality producer might make that amount of beats per year (or more) but youd only ever hear maybe 20 of them because theyd scrap the ones they didnt think were “perfect”. Im shitting on the guy, I know but come on. I dont want to listen to 50 tracks just to hear one I like, when they all sound exactly the same.

    Now this Devereaux guy will be throwing another 55 beats at Ouija in 2022 as well as producing for ICP and other artists. Everything is gonna have the same quality and everything is gonna sound the same.

    Every interview where J brings up Ouija, hes jacking off about how many songs he pumps out like its a good thing. Hes in awe of that business model and I genuinely think its because hes seen how much of a profit they could make, doing it this way. Rather than paying a producer per hour in the studio, just buy a beat from some guy who makes 10 beats per day and get someone to engineer it.

    Props to you if this is your shit. You’re in for a treat.

  24. Chevy2Dope

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 08:35 am GMT -5 at 8:35 am

    Unless he is actually under contract with a label then he is obviously free to work with whoever the fuck he wants to work with and get paid. The problem here is that if this is going on, then I am quite sure this will mean ICP will not work with him out of pettiness. The only people that lose there are the fans that were hoping for MEC to do some work with ICP on the 6th and other projects. Who knows, maybe MEC transcends that whole beef and ICP wouldn’t be bothered by this.

  25. Noawareness

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 09:10 am GMT -5 at 9:10 am

    I agree. I feel like the bitterness is still peaking for ICP and can see them doubling down on their pettiness, when it comes to the whole “us or them” thing now. Who knows though? Time will tell. There’s years before the 6th card drops. Anything can happen.

  26. BlackSand

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 09:39 am GMT -5 at 9:39 am

    Didn’t MEC want to do another Project Dead Man project a while’s back?

    Seems he’s in the mood to something dark as of late. Makes sense he’s fucking with this here.

  27. chops

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 03:36 pm GMT -5 at 3:36 pm

    Mec has been doing mixing and remixing for MNE since 2013. Y’all just don’t pay attention. Mike can work with who he wants when he wants.

  28. BZA

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 04:08 pm GMT -5 at 4:08 pm

    So about the same time he stopped working with icp.. coincidence? I think not

  29. Mxyzptlk

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 05:28 pm GMT -5 at 5:28 pm

    For the life of me, I will never understand how Twiztid can make diss after diss towards ICP, and people are just like yup, cool. ICP fires back, and it’s “Violent J is petty,” “They should let it go.” Young Wicked knocked up J’s niece and got signed to MNE as a reward. Twiztid shit talked the Juggalo March, which ICP has been very clear was very important to them. But J writing, “Fuck people who act like friends and fuck you over,” is petty.

    Seriously, you guys got the most ridiculous double standard ever.

    Anyway, I’m pretty sure ICP is over the whole “Won’t work with anyone that ever works with Twiztid” thing. I think it’s really just Twiztid and any former PSY artist at this point.

  30. Noawareness

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 01:00 am GMT -5 at 1:00 am

    Everyone needs to get the fuck over it and someone needs to be the bigger man. The only thing more pathetic than this actual beef is fans getting emotionally invested in it. Most pointless shit ever.

    This “young wicked got Js neice pregnant” shit is also hilarious. Last I heard, no one got raped and everyone is provided for. Who even gives a fuck? They were happy enough to keep him employed after the fact but if someone else trys to employ him it’s “fuck them!”? The fact that anyone even cares that 2 people fucked, to this extent is unreal.

    But I don’t really care what some gay fan thinks about it. I only care about how it’s affecting the music and cutting people off because they work with someone you don’t like is affecting the music. I don’t care which side you pick it if your neutral, you can’t deny that all this bullshit has done that. That’s all you should give a fuck about.

  31. mikeysinder

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 06:50 pm GMT -5 at 6:50 pm

    Ey someone with a brain finally commented, Mxyzptlk makes a great point. You faggots callin J petty? Twiztid can release a fake Rydas CD and do fake Lotus shows which is some of the pettiest shit Ive ever seen, and you dont say shit, Twiztid has been seen multiple times having little bitch fits at shows because someone in the crowd chants ICP, which is truly some of the most embarrassingly petty shit ever, they write diss after diss while claiming they “arent gonna say anything back” but then J writes “fuck you guys for being some fake friends” and all you little faggots think he’s the petty one, any of you walk a mile in Js shoes and see how petty you judgemental cock smokers are.

  32. mikeysinder

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 06:51 pm GMT -5 at 6:51 pm

    Also have you noticed how Noawareness is a insufferable cock smoker? No wonder that complete douchebag wanted me gone, he wants to dwell in these comment sections (which he does alot because hes bored with life) and prefers when someone smarter like me isnt around to tell him what a dumb douchebag he is, he once tried this whole thing by saying “people dont come to this site anymore because of you Mikey Sinder” hahah yeah really looks like that Noawareness you deluded little faggot hahahhaha

  33. BZA

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 07:43 pm GMT -5 at 7:43 pm

    No one even mentioned you, stop shitting up an actual decent conversation

  34. Tcraze340

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 07:54 pm GMT -5 at 7:54 pm

    Shut up pussy

  35. Noawareness

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 12:48 am GMT -5 at 12:48 am

    ?

  36. BZA

    Comment posted on Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 08:17 pm GMT -5 at 8:17 pm

    https://twitter.com/MikeEClark/status/1458617895123103745

    Let it happen!

  37. Noawareness

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 01:01 am GMT -5 at 1:01 am

    The need to send him some acapellas and get some remixes going.

  38. Mr. Fucker

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 02:50 am GMT -5 at 2:50 am

    As far as pettiness goes, imo twz kicking juggalos out of shows, and talking shit and crying over icp chants is bottom barrel petty.
    Not supporting the ppl that supported them for years is petty. Twz sly dissing in tracks and denying it is petty. Being heard by many ppl in different places they thought they were safe to talk personal shit on icp then getting caught is pretty.
    As dumb as the whole otis getting Sammie prego shit is, at least for J its a personal/PRIVATE issue. I think it’s petty that ppl not involved take offense to that.
    It’s not my business that’s between those parties, (yw n Sammie n family). Yw has talent, I’m not gonna say he doesn’t have skills bc of a personal relationship issue he has that’s just retarded thinking.
    Twz have become the most petty snot nosed faggots that they are now bc they cry how much better they are than icp yet, the rest of the world dosnet seem to agree as icp have more success in their pinky toe than twz will probably ever have.
    Icp have been fighting back at them the past few yrs and most juggalos seem to love it, bc well fuck twz. Defending yourself againt somones attacks isn’t petty imo. Fair is fair.

  39. Noawareness

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 04:16 am GMT -5 at 4:16 am

    I can’t even imagine having a personal, emotional involvement in beef between musicians. No part of me can imagine hearing one rapper diss another and caring enough to pick a side. The only thing I care about is it having a negative effect on the music I enjoy. Let’s say, hypothetically, this results in ICP not working with Mike Clarke again. That’s whack.

  40. Mr. Fucker

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 07:06 am GMT -5 at 7:06 am

    I feel what you’re saying and respect it. I also don’t entirely disagree w you either.
    However the thing about this is, the general icp twz beef more or less stems from twz shitting on the culture itself.
    It’s fair to say many juggalos can’t help but feel a certain personal invesent in this whole thing. To say that’s right or wrong tho is irrelevant. It kind of becomes a “Fuck me? No fuck you!” type of thing.
    My point is yeah they are musicians but everybody doesn’t look at it as a rapper vs rapper beef like that. It’s probably closer to twz vs juggalos tbh and that’s why sides are picked.
    I’m not worried about mec n icp not collabing. It will happen again in time, when it’s time, at the right time. They need a break from each other imo anyway.

  41. purplekushy

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 04:21 am GMT -5 at 4:21 am

    wow AXE is almost entirely cut out of this conversation for whom the original article was posted featuring MEC. Ill shout em out! As far as this beef non sense goes take it as entertainment. Like sports! Pick your team. Either way both sides will try to out do each other which makes it great for the sport. The fans win. Both Twiztid and ICP have put out some seriously dark shit since the split. My opinion is that Twiztids music sucks more than ICPs music at the moment, but those roles were reversed pre FFF days. Be a critic of the music not their personal lives. Don’t suck either of the sides dick, have some dignity. They both see you all as just their pay cheques and they don’t give a fuck about your personal lives. Stop being so involved in anything else besides the music, films, comics, etc. That is what they provide you with in exchange for money and clicks. Besides that your opinion doesn’t matter them. They only value us because of the lives we gave them collectively. Without us they have nothing. Without them, life rolls on. Thats the reality. As far as the music goes, ill give this AXE + MEC collab a spin. All of AXEs tunes sound the same to me, im hoping MEC can change that and promote AXE from Average to Pretty Good.

  42. TwiztidOne

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 03:13 pm GMT -5 at 3:13 pm

    I’m kind of torn because the music has helped me through a lot of bullshit. I can’t choose a side because that would make me a hypocrite. Both sides have valid points but at the end of the day, BOTH J and Paul need to put their pettiness aside. It’s not good for their brands or their health. Btw wasn’t axe the ones who wished j a speedy recovery after the heart failure was announced. I think we will see a MEC/ICP collab soon enough.

  43. Tcraze340

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 05:48 pm GMT -5 at 5:48 pm

    You can’t choose a side because real juggalos who can think for themselves don’t give a fuck about this beef they can hate each other all they want but I won’t pick a side. I will say this tho Fury and Yum yum shits on anything twiztid put out in the past year

  44. Tcraze340

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 05:50 pm GMT -5 at 5:50 pm

    Yes they are the ones who wished J a speedy recovery they also have been complementary to icp in several interviews.

  45. Mxyzptlk

    Comment posted on Thursday, November 11th, 2021 07:13 pm GMT -5 at 7:13 pm

    Noawareness, has it ever occurred to you that the fact that you’ve been trying to push this “anyone that has an emotional involvement in beef” shit so much, for so many years, that you’re emotionally involved? Just admit it, dude.

    I’m just saying Violent J isn’t petty. It’s personal to him. 2 things he cares about: his brother, and the juggalo march, were both disrupted by Twiztid. It’s not petty to him. It’s personal.

    I’m not emotionally invested, but I do have an opinion. And when Twiztid kick ppl out of a show for chanting icp, that seems way more petty than ICP saying, “Fuck fake friends, enjoy the fire, you earned it.”

    Like, twiztid don’t even get a diss on a track. Just a fuck you in the booklet. Which by the way, ICP has been putting “fuck offs” in their booklets forever.

  46. Noawareness

    Comment posted on Friday, November 12th, 2021 02:08 am GMT -5 at 2:08 am

    No. I don’t personally care about it at all. Can’t stress that enough.

  47. Mxyzptlk

    Comment posted on Friday, November 12th, 2021 08:57 am GMT -5 at 8:57 am

    You keep saying that, but you’ve participated in this dialog for several years. I did a site search a couple days ago to find a date to make a post here, and you were in the comments well over 3 years ago saying, “I don’t care about this at all, but here’s my thoughts.” If you don’t care, then just don’t participate? I’m not emotionally invested in it, but it does affect the music, so it is going to come up. That’s just gonna be a fact of life until something gets sorted out on THEIR end.

  48. Noawareness

    Comment posted on Friday, November 12th, 2021 12:41 pm GMT -5 at 12:41 pm

    Having an opinion on the state of something, that is being repeatedly discussed is not the same as being emotionally invested in something. Are you 13? Good work deep diving into my posts though. But weird but ok.

  49. BDM

    Comment posted on Friday, November 12th, 2021 01:13 pm GMT -5 at 1:13 pm

    I would like to throw my thoughts on the beef in here to hopefully create an intelligent dialogue. Twiztid claimed that Psychopathic, Joe in particular, was a controlling dickhead and was stingy with money. Pretty much every act that has ever been on the label has said the exact same thing. People that left the label and publicly complained about J being an asshole and being fucked out of money include Project Born, Esham, Lavel, ABK, Myzery and Twiztid. Granted, a lot of them became cool with Psychopathic after the fact when things didn’t work out, but they all said the exact same thing when they left. It is also interesting that Blaze and Boondox immediately left Psychopathic when they had another option, and that ABK does a lot more with Majik Ninja than he does with his own label. Where there is smoke, there is fire. J wants to pretend that Paul and Jamie were his friends, and they stabbed him in the back. Realistically, they were his employees that he was treating poorly, not promoting properly (the Abominationz fuck ups) and more than likely was not paying what they should be paid. Hardly somebody that you would call a ‘friend’.

  50. Mr. Fucker

    Comment posted on Friday, November 12th, 2021 07:01 pm GMT -5 at 7:01 pm

    Just bc everybody (all the acts you listed) made the claim they weren’t getting paid what they “felt”, why do you assume that is really the case? Psychopathic records is a business. Has it occured to you that bc icp took the homie approach that maybe all these ppl felt entitled to more than what they got? Again Psy is a BUSINESS. Icp offered them a deal that every single 1 of them agreed too.
    Nobody held a gun to anybody’s head. Icp gave them the opportunities, and shots that nobody else gave them. Icp is also mostly responsible for their (twz, blaze, dox, abk) gimmicks and characters that THAT THEY STILL USE.
    The deals were basicly “we give you X amount of money upfront and half your album sales but your masters are ours so we can earn money for life on it” they all agreed to this deal. Then twz being backstabbing faggots they are tried playing the homie/fam card to get the masters they already agreed weren’t theirs in the 1st place.
    Icp can’t stroll up to universal records and play those homie/fam cards and cry to get the great milenko back, why should they be any different? Icp ate the bosses of a company, of course their employees had something they felt should be bitched about. If icp were so horrible nobody would’ve signed w em in the 1st place. But non of them have changed their names, or took their face paint off or none of that bc icp made them who the fuck they are that’s just how it goes and how it is.
    Icp didn’t treat them poorly, they all just felt entitled.
    Ouija and hoodoo don’t seem to whine and cry like those lil majik majik fuck boys over there.
    In the no jumper interview J claimed ouija is the most successful other artist they’ve ever had. He’s working and grinding not crying and bitching.

  51. YungCrowbar

    Comment posted on Saturday, November 13th, 2021 01:01 am GMT -5 at 1:01 am

    yee, Twiztid still using Dark Lotus and Rydas makes it very clear they were only in it for the money.. and it’s weird how that shit isnt considered “petty”. and why couldnt Twiztid ever show love to the hatchetman? i get they wanna “do their own thing” while still doing exactly what they were already doing but a lil logo just to represent where they came from was too much?

    and isnt there rumors from previous MNE artists saying Twiztid treated them poorly? im honestly asking bc idk. i thought saw G-MO say some shit about em. regardless, they dont seem to be any better at being label owners.

    i honestly believe VJ did his best to help out anyone.. but obviously we will never know what goes on behind closed doors unless some hard proof comes out.

  52. Mr. Fucker

    Comment posted on Saturday, November 13th, 2021 02:03 am GMT -5 at 2:03 am

    Real shit. They could’ve been amongst the same ppl doing their legit own thing. Nothing wrong w trying to surpass your peers, just don’t step on them to get there.
    The gmo shit from my understanding is he didn’t like how MNE was spending the money on his videos and promotion. He said he could do what they wanted to do for less money, bc I guess the more they spent the more he had to spend.
    Theres a rant video where he basicly talks a bunch of broad shit on them but keeps saying everything is still cool.
    And I agree I believe j did everything he could to make everybody succeed. Makes no sense to put all that effort and money into something for nothing.

  53. Mxyzptlk

    Comment posted on Friday, November 12th, 2021 04:05 pm GMT -5 at 4:05 pm

    Why do you assume that everyone’s over here crying about it and you’re the only one with “just an opinion.” I think more people care about the thought of ICP not working with MEC than MEC working with these goofs.

  54. YungCrowbar

    Comment posted on Saturday, November 13th, 2021 01:02 am GMT -5 at 1:02 am

    yeah, i think ninjas wanna see MEC work with ICP, i don’t see anyone trying to gatekeep him lol

  55. BDM

    Comment posted on Saturday, November 13th, 2021 03:01 pm GMT -5 at 3:01 pm

    Unfortunately, Mike E Clark is another person on the never ending list of people that got the fuck away from Psychopathic over money/controlling/J being an asshole issues. It is a shame because their best music BY FAR was shit that MEC produced. That said, these days I am not sure it would make a huge difference. ICP haven’t written their own lyrics for a while, so now it just sounds like a bad parody of themselves.

  56. Mr. Fucker

    Comment posted on Sunday, November 14th, 2021 02:34 am GMT -5 at 2:34 am

    It should be noted that icp and mec personal relationship runs deeper than anyone else of us will ever know. Maybe mec has the same gripes, maybe he doesn’t. I believe they will work together again in the future.

  57. YungCrowbar

    Comment posted on Saturday, November 13th, 2021 03:38 pm GMT -5 at 3:38 pm

    who is writing their lyrics then lol

  58. BDM

    Comment posted on Saturday, November 13th, 2021 07:33 pm GMT -5 at 7:33 pm

    Ghostwriters.

    Here is an interview with Shaggy where he flat out says that he uses ghostwriters:

    https://www.connectsavannah.com/savannah/insane-clown-posse-the-connect-interview/Content?oid=2992767

  59. Mr. Fucker

    Comment posted on Sunday, November 14th, 2021 02:44 am GMT -5 at 2:44 am

    It’s also no secret that J wrote/writes alot of shit for shaggy too. Pretty much everybody has some level of ghost writers.
    You failed to point out tho in this article he says its only a lil bit. He comes up w his own shit too. He said he goes w what sounds the dopest (between the shit he came up w and what the writer came up w). It’s not like somebody just sits there and rights a bunch of bars and he takes it and lays it down over the beat blindly. Writing a song is a process. Just like everybody else in music they have theirs. Either way anything written for him he still has to make it his own in some type of way.
    The narrative that icp or even shaggy don’t write anything for themself/himself is just false man.
    When blaze was on Psy twz did most of his writing, (probably still do) and that’s never been a secret.

  60. randy gall

    Comment posted on Sunday, November 14th, 2021 09:03 pm GMT -5 at 9:03 pm

    man on them monoxide smoking viDeos he said j write his own lyrics and shaggys most the time

  61. YungCrowbar

    Comment posted on Monday, November 15th, 2021 11:18 am GMT -5 at 11:18 am

    well we knew Violent J wrote most of the songs lol, i just meant like someone outside of J and Shaggs.

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