I remember twiztid and icp saying they went to Egypt and took a piece of the pyramid of giza and set it in the lotus pod and that it was creating the magic for the album. true story

CellE2057 said

if you're using terms like "micro-evolution" and "macro-evolution", I question your sources because those are the same damned thing but on a different scale.

Wait what?! lol.

CellE2057 said

Tales from the Lotus Pod was fucking incredible. Marz version of course. Like Psyral said, they might have pretended to use black magic on it. The Placebo Effect is a real thing. Combine those two and you have the makings of a very dark album. Not in a cursed way but if I think I've summoned a demon to put in my music or whatever the fuck, there's a high chance I'm going to write some very crazy shit and go to a darker place than I normally would (Fuck holes in my yard and grow children from soil). Same deal. They MIGHT have all thought they were using a mystic power, which in turn, made them write better. The cover to Black Rain was great. Very uncomfortable feel to it but that's about the best thing I can say for that album. The Opaque Brotherhood was solid though. It wasn't quite as good as Tales but it had the same listen with the lights off feel to me, minus a few tracks.

But absolutely on point with everything else you said. Wont lie though... I just couldn't get into Opaque Brotherhood, maybe I'll try to give it another go though. That albums seems to have the most mixed reviews out of all the albums they've released.

CellE2057 said
So in other, less winded words, Micro-evolution and Macro-evolution are the same thing, just on a different scale.  

I get where your coming from, but Id still argue your explanation of macro. but I dont feel like getting into it over the message board, PM and we could go at it... not that theres a fuckin point to it, lol.

CellE2057 said
When I first heard Opaque Brotherhood it threw me off because it sounded really polished or something, whereas the first album sounded like it was absolutely recorded in a dungeon or some shit. So I understand the not being able to get into it. If you can get past that clean sound though, everything else about it is the same feel as old Lotus. 

That might be what it is to be honest... what are the "stand out tracks" on the album btw? give me your top 3 that I should check out first.

Psyral Infection said
@yakkattack , It may depend on what you listen to in the music. I barely hear the music or beats. My brain really only focuses on the lyrics. That being said, I am a huge fan of Dark Lotus. All of it. I admit that there are some songs that I skip on occasion when my mood is just not into it, but for the most part I play them all. My top 3 "stand out tracks" are Backwards, Follow the Leader, and Opaque Brotherhood. Backwards being my favorite.

Im actually huge on lyrics, no matter how good the beat is... if the lyrics are wack I wont listen to it. but DAMN! Okay, ill give u props. Backwards is solid! On Wednesday I have a new pair of headphones coming in... that i paid a little to damn much for, lol. but Ill wait to listen until then so I can get the full experience of the album.

LuckyNumbrXIII said
Bro, if you don't get why Opaque Brotherhood is one of the best Lotus albums, you're not listening!

Thats the thing, Ive never actually sat down and listened to that album... like "actually listened". Keep in mind im still back tracking all Psy Records releases since 05 when I stopped listening. Btw, lately Ive been playing boondox - "abandoned" and I never thought Id say this... but DAMN that is a solid album! *obviously my opinion* and I say I never thought Id say that is because since I got back into PSY he was a new artists to me and I just wasnt feelin his whole "gimmick"... The whole country boy scare crow rapper, it just felt really corny to me. but wow, I tried to stay unbiased listening to that album and it is fuckin great!

YakkAttack said

CellE2057 said
So in other, less winded words, Micro-evolution and Macro-evolution are the same thing, just on a different scale.  

I get where your coming from, but Id still argue your explanation of macro. but I dont feel like getting into it over the message board, PM and we could go at it... not that theres a fuckin point to it, lol.

CellE2057 said
When I first heard Opaque Brotherhood it threw me off because it sounded really polished or something, whereas the first album sounded like it was absolutely recorded in a dungeon or some shit. So I understand the not being able to get into it. If you can get past that clean sound though, everything else about it is the same feel as old Lotus. 

That might be what it is to be honest... what are the "stand out tracks" on the album btw? give me your top 3 that I should check out first.

I'm going to PM you about it. Curious to know what you think Macro Evolution actually is. 

Someone else already said "Backwords" so I won't suggest that one but damn, what a great fuckin song. In Bloom, it has that aggressively wicked feel that Lotus is (was?) so damned good at, Can you keep a secret has the spooky, basement sound that the rest of the album kind of lacks, and Heinous, which is Dark Lotus flexin on the mic the only way I can imagine them doing it and it working. 

best album in PSy history 

TFTLP > mostasteess > great milenko > the rest

OG TFTLP>MWA&B>Opaque>Black Rain>ABK TFTLP

I don't hate ABK but when he is so outshined by every other dude in the group it urks the piss out of me. You can look forward to all the boys verses save for his. His inclusion on any of the albums doesn't exist to me. In fact I used to cut out his verses to make my own personal ABKless editions, haha.

Opaque and the new joint are near a tie also. You cannot FUCK with 'Black Sand'!

LuckyNumbrXIII said
I believe in evolution, but I also believe in things human brains can't perceive which if harnessed would be magical. I doubt that makes sense to anyone and I'm sure you'll all think I'm preaching shit, but I'm more thinking about the existence of dark matter and the possibility of other beings existing in the same time and space as us, except on a different plane of existence. Like try to imagine a color you've never seen. Like what color are ultraviolet rays?  You dig?

 

god I hate auto correct

Color you haven't seen... Kinda like explaining sight to someone born blind. 

Or an acid trip to someone who hasn't done acid (I'm always asking my friends, they can't ever fully describe it). 

But anyway, yeah, I see what your saying. 

I still haven't fully heard Black Rain or Opaque Brotherhood. But, I still like Tales From The Lotus Pod a lot (both versions, except for Bitch I'm Sexy, I like the OG version, should've had ABK do a verse instead of yelling at Marz), and I have MWAB. 

And, why the fuck can't I ever find Tales, I'd really fuckin' like to have it!