10:37 am
January 27, 2016
Well, that about sums it up. I was right to not present the information. If I had been like "Yo! who wants 10 bucks to review my video?" People still would have bitched about it being long, or something like "I couldn't even watch it all" "I was good until there was parts that I had to read". But, since I presented it the way I did, and offered you an opportunity to give your opinion, you declined. I'm not going to say that it's what I expected, but it is the revelation I had when I made it to the DCG Con. I thank you for the opportunity to have made a point. Sadly, this juggalo state of mind does not help it appear to be a good thing in reality to outsiders, or insiders. If anyone takes the time to review the video in it's entirety, and responds, then I have some questions for you. If not, which is what most of you are thinking, then good luck with whatever hand the government deals you, sincerely. I for one, do not enjoy the thought of being a gang member with most of you. And I sure wouldn't want ICP to be any form of leader to said gang. But, this is how we are judged. There are REAL problems with that classification. I for one, do not think that marching is the simple answer. Thus, the video. BUT, for those who wouldn't even march if the bus tickets were paid for, and people got picked up, (Like Trump and Hillary protestors are) then none of this means anything to you at all. Which makes the gang classification that much more retarded. I can at least honestly say that I gave Juggalos an opportunity to review it, and see if it is disrespectful to them before sending it off to bigger and better things. So, in that regard, my conscience is clear on the matter. I gave you a chance to rebut the information included. I will have no choice but to present it exactly the way it is. I will give you all until the 1st of May to review it, and judge it based on what it is, not what you think it should be. If not, it will be submitted around the world. And your "juggalo" name, will be whatever I say it is. Thank you for your time.
10:50 am
January 27, 2016
These comments are EXACTLY why I wanted Juggalos opinions on the video.... because... you are actually describing things that I say in the video...... but, you wouldn't really be able to comment with advice, UNTIL you saw it.... it's amazing to me how intelligent and insightful juggalos are, but in the same breath, how dismissive and presumptive they are, even when it comes to things that affect them. This is why people complained about Blahzay Roze, they didn't realize how many juggalettes and even juggalos have actually been raped and shit, and for those people, telling them to go out and kill the people who did it, is just bad information. As with this, exposing the people, is just bad information. You have no idea how deep it goes, and you obviously have no idea what has happened to the people involved in the lawsuit in Flint, those people ALL got murdered. All of em. So again, you'd have to understand the video for what it is.... if not, then no opinion stated can be taken seriously by such grand generalities of "life wisdom".
SPOOKYtheFUNGI said
I think instead of having any focus on juggalos and god, i think you should expose that corrupt child laundering issue that has obviously affected you the most. Leave out your religious beliefs and the word juggalo and focus heavily on the true issue. Dont be afraid to expose people and companies. When you start to put your beliefs and associations in something like that it comes off as a one dimensional perspective and bias. Most people will quickly make opinions of you and your point will get lost in translation.
11:51 am
December 3, 2012
I sat down and watched that mother fucker for 30 minutes yesterday.
It has no structure whatsoever. Its actually a presentation. Id hardly call it a doc but I guess technically it is.
Its straight up rambling.
Im not going to sit through the whole thing. Its a fucking sermon.
My opinion still stands. Leave the juggalo shit in there... Or dont.
Dont be so quick to dismiss everyones advice because they dont want to listen to a man ramble about jesus and the government in between sips of gatorade... Or do.
Fuck, I tried. I read all of these migraine inducing posts and tried to sit through the video. I am a very very patient person too. Hope shit works out for you either way dude.
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That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
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12:57 pm
January 27, 2016
6:10 pm
January 28, 2016
Slumerican502 said
I sat down and watched that mother fucker for 30 minutes yesterday.It has no structure whatsoever. Its actually a presentation. Id hardly call it a doc but I guess technically it is.
Its straight up rambling.
Im not going to sit through the whole thing. Its a fucking sermon.
Dont be so quick to dismiss everyones advice because they dont want to listen to a man ramble about jesus and the government in between sips of gatorade... Or do.
Fuck, I tried. I read all of these migraine inducing posts and tried to sit through the video. I am a very very patient person too. Hope shit works out for you either way dude.
This is EXACTLY what i was about to post...i gave it 20 min, then clicked half way thru and gave it 5 min, then i tried a couple minutes at the end...rambling was really hard to listen to, kinda like a person on radio who says "annnnnd" every other word...how you shot the video, ie set and setting, was a poor choice...it gets dark and i can barely see you. This isnt a documentary, its a rant...and you could of made this video only 30 min long, but you are all over the place and explaining the noises in the background and telling us what your drinking and a bunch of nonsense that strays away from your point...the whole time im just sitting there like, Well wheres his point and what is his purpose of this rambling. You need to pay attention to the directors point of views when they make a documentary, you cant look at it from the "interviewee's" perspective....what i mean by that is if you had someone be the director of your documentary, they would of edited it and show your highlights.
On a different note, am i the only one who thinks violent j is the one typing his posts here on the forums???? the structure and similarities are uncanny
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RavenoftheLotus7:02 pm
September 10, 2013
The video (what almost nothing of it I watched) reminded me of the one time I tried to watch Monoxide do a periscope (which is basically what facebook live is now). It's just some dude talking with no real direction or purpose.
You should spend some time reflecting on life outside of the internet and ICP world for a while.
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RavenoftheLotus8:23 pm
January 27, 2016
So the bottom line is, "It makes no sense", and yet I bring up Juggalos, and at no point does anyone say, "That shit's too retarded to have the name Juggalo associated with it?" That's about 8 votes for "whatever floats your boat". Sounds like we have a unanimous decision. Off to the festivals. (There are a few that take submissions for people ONLY with diagnosed mental illnesses, and by the way this audience is reacting, it's obvious that my schizophrenic ramblings really do come across as honest and sincere..... ly documented.) So, I appreciate all of your time, all of your efforts, all of your input, it has really been helpful, (no sarcasm.) I really appreciate it. You've saved me a lot of worry that it would make you, or Juggalos in general, look bad, to the rest of the mental health community, and anyone else who EVER gets involved with the project. You all have eased my heart on the topic. For this, I am grateful. Once again, an actual crazy person was able to lean on the Juggalos for help, just like the music said I could ...... Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf_UV0TAjM8
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CellE20578:58 pm
May 22, 2016
9:17 pm
September 19, 2014
RavenoftheLotus said
So the bottom line is, "It makes no sense", and yet I bring up Juggalos, and at no point does anyone say, "That shit's too retarded to have the name Juggalo associated with it?" That's about 8 votes for "whatever floats your boat". Sounds like we have a unanimous decision. Off to the festivals. (There are a few that take submissions for people ONLY with diagnosed mental illnesses, and by the way this audience is reacting, it's obvious that my schizophrenic ramblings really do come across as honest and sincere..... ly documented.) So, I appreciate all of your time, all of your efforts, all of your input, it has really been helpful, (no sarcasm.) I really appreciate it. You've saved me a lot of worry that it would make you, or Juggalos in general, look bad, to the rest of the mental health community, and anyone else who EVER gets involved with the project. You all have eased my heart on the topic. For this, I am grateful. Once again, an actual crazy person was able to lean on the Juggalos for help, just like the music said I could ......
Man, way to take the shit you received and filter it down. I still say you should focus on structuring what you're trying to say (take as much time as you need, yo. It gets the point across better, makes you look better, and most importantly will keep people interested) but you handled it better than the vast majority of people that pop up on here occasionally.
Good luck on your journey, man. Whatever it may be. MCL.
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RavenoftheLotus9:54 pm
July 28, 2016
One of the hardest lessons for me as an artist is self censorship. Or rather, editing for content.
Not every word is gold. Not every second is needed.
Cut shit. Always leave a good chunk of material behind. If you think every last second is vital, something is wrong.
If you are telling people the first half hour is confusing but that is when it starts to make sense, cut that first half hour.
Organize your thoughts and cut redundancy if nothing else.
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10:14 pm
January 27, 2016
CellE2057 said
RavenoftheLotus said
So the bottom line is, "It makes no sense", and yet I bring up Juggalos, and at no point does anyone say, "That shit's too retarded to have the name Juggalo associated with it?" That's about 8 votes for "whatever floats your boat". Sounds like we have a unanimous decision. Off to the festivals. (There are a few that take submissions for people ONLY with diagnosed mental illnesses, and by the way this audience is reacting, it's obvious that my schizophrenic ramblings really do come across as honest and sincere..... ly documented.) So, I appreciate all of your time, all of your efforts, all of your input, it has really been helpful, (no sarcasm.) I really appreciate it. You've saved me a lot of worry that it would make you, or Juggalos in general, look bad, to the rest of the mental health community, and anyone else who EVER gets involved with the project. You all have eased my heart on the topic. For this, I am grateful. Once again, an actual crazy person was able to lean on the Juggalos for help, just like the music said I could ......Man, way to take the shit you received and filter it down. I still say you should focus on structuring what you're trying to say (take as much time as you need, yo. It gets the point across better, makes you look better, and most importantly will keep people interested) but you handled it better than the vast majority of people that pop up on here occasionally.
Good luck on your journey, man. Whatever it may be. MCL.
Well, I have been tasked with attempting to sum the video up into a two or three sentence preposition that I needed to provide to the film festivals, in order for them to understand the concept of what it is, so that it's understandable, and whether or not it passes as an actual independent film. Due to all of your help, I have come up with this three sentence explanation! That was really a set back for me. You all helped me do that. I wasn't even expecting that to come through. I just didn't want you all to look bad because of what I say, and the pictures I show, and how I sum up Juggalos, and the angle that I perceive it from, being more of an outsider, a Juggalo of Juggalos if you will. The preposition provides the structure. So, again, you guys are fucking awesome! Thank you so much.
1:15 am
February 13, 2015
1:23 am
September 18, 2012
Noah Fence said
One of the hardest lessons for me as an artist is self censorship. Or rather, editing for content.Not every word is gold. Not every second is needed.
Cut shit. Always leave a good chunk of material behind. If you think every last second is vital, something is wrong.
If you are telling people the first half hour is confusing but that is when it starts to make sense, cut that first half hour.
Organize your thoughts and cut redundancy if nothing else.
Don't listen to Noah, he's trying to hinder your creativity!
2:44 am
October 30, 2013
Thank you ravenofthelotus...
For making MY shit look... readable.
Without going in on you, you GOTTA learn how to use the little widget thingies at the top of the window! 'Spoiler' cuts and... paragraphs are helpful.
Hang in there though.
You don't need OUR permission to do ANYthing you think might make you feel better and doesn't go out of its way to hurt someone else...
'~'=
"Your lack of online social presence makes it difficult for me to predict your needs..." - 2064: Read Only Memories
2:48 am
September 18, 2012
Cheshyr said
Thank you ravenofthelotus...For making MY shit look... readable.
Without going in on you, you GOTTA learn how to use the little widget thingies at the top of the window! 'Spoiler' cuts and... paragraphs are helpful.
Hang in there though.
You don't need OUR permission to do ANYthing you think might make you feel better and doesn't go out of its way to hurt someone else...
'~'=
Don't listen to Cheshyr, he's a kitty cat.
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Maryonette12:42 pm
January 27, 2016
For those of you that read all this stuff from me, I mentioned TD Jakes, the guy in Dallas, the city where ICP first threw the dart.... well, I watched his sermon on 4-23, the day of my "big decision" and there's painted up people in the church, and a rapper at the same time.... then dude yells at me for not "Tapping into it". Michael Jr... the comedian.... HE also pulled a weird maneuver... check that out first, its shorter..... anyway, just an update that for real, I am going to be sending this video out to people, and whatever I said in the video about Juggalos will be heard but you all said it's cool, so I shared that info.... so... again... it's 17, which is the biblical year of Jubilee, which is a year of God's unmerited favors... if you believe in all that, like I do.... either way... see if you can follow along...
https://www.facebook.com/MichaelJrComedy/videos/10158605064885253/
1:30 pm
May 4, 2014
9:18 pm
January 27, 2016
Once again, I thank you all for your input, one of the film festivals that I didn't expect to be taking submissions, just posted today that they are now taking submission. Since you all have been helpful, I will share the link to the festival. If you are an aspiring film maker, and have a mental illness, or a cinematic take on one, that is the theme, The film festival link is here, in case you are interested, http://www.rendezvouswithmadne..... thanks again. Whoop whoop!
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