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Can someone please explain to me what the Missing Link Lost and Found do as Joker Cards
August 29, 2016
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As we all know the original deck and even BPB and MDP all have characteristics that are unique to their character. With TMML:L & F, the only thing I got from them is that they're essentially The Wraith clones. I think ICP is running out of ideas fast and don't care about what cards are unique anymore honestly.

August 29, 2016
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I guess it resembles the wraith, but the big difference is the fact that lost and found is about life on this earth and not when you die.

Quit trying to decipher and depict whats givin to us and just enjoy the journey. Icp doesnt claim to be geniuses, they just normal scrubs like us who enjoy telling stories.

You feel like a link is missing, but your just looking for a link that dont exist

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I think the idea that TMML doesn't really "feel like" a character in the way pretty much any of their other Joker Cards do was a big miss with those albums. All the others, especially the first six, somehow feel like a real entity in the album. Not so much TMML, it's more just an album title and that's it. 

August 29, 2016
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Hm I think it just slightly resembles the wraith because of the bright side/dark side thinking, but all Joker's Cards got this in common.

I think it's unique, it's all about finding your place in life and the meaning of it. If you found that (might be god, or it might be your place amongst good friends, marriage, whatever you find longlasting joy in), your life brightens up, you feel right, you get the positivity, because you feel pleased. If you're disconnected, alone, lost, so to speak, your life becomes darker and darker. I understand it simply as meaning of life; you're lucky if you get a glimpse to that in your personal way. Those who dont are led towards the darkness full of hatred, jealousy and anger, to a place where the racist pigs live, so to speak. Your perception of life changes drastically, if you find the place you really fit into. The Missing Link describes just that in a spiritual way, I think.

 

edit: as for the feeling as an entity, I agree. It's not as easy to think of it as an entity as The Great Milenko for example. But to me that's similar to The Mighty Death Pop and Bang Pow Boom as well. If they do it consistently within the Second Deck, I'm fine.

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I see TMML Lost/Found  as places like Carnival of Carnage rather than as objects (Riddle Box) or creatures personifying something (Ringmaster.) They remind me of when I watched the series Andromeda and there was something called the Abyss. Characters were aligned with the Abyss, or infected with it, and sometimes trapped there, but some fought to avoid or destroy it. Maybe it comes down to choosing a path (faith/faithless, light/dark, etc.) and since ICP says Lost has no humor and all the jokes are on Found this duality is like a clowny version of the old Greek theater masks.

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"The group themselves explain, “This new album is unquestionably the most direct and in-your-face Joker’s Card we’ve ever released. The Marvelous Missing Link: LOST challenges the listener to consider the importance of faith in their life and how they are truly Lost without it. This record dares you to think about the big issues in your life … while at the same time delivering the ruthless Detroit wicked shit that the world has come to expect – and fear — from the Insane Clown Posse. Mad clown love to our Juggalo family all over the world!”"

Source: http://www.spin.com/2015/04/in.....st-stream/

 

 

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August 29, 2016
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said
I guess it resembles the wraith, but the big difference is the fact that lost and found is about life on this earth and not when you die.

Ya I agree with that. Life is a fucked up great thing. There's so much bad shit in life. But there's alot of good too. Everything happens for a reason.

I should deff know that. I'm turning myself in tomorrow to go to prison. I'm gonna go do 2 years im pretty sure.

One of the things im gonna miss the most is this shit right here. Being in touch with the juggalo world and my fellow juggalos.

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August 29, 2016
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I think you can think of it sort of like as Mighty Death Pop. So, the death pop is a spirit that sees reckless behavior, then possesses the person who is on some bullshit trip, and pushes them to an extreme until they die.

With the Missing Link, it's like a spirit that, when it's around colors your world view. You see shit sort of like the man in white. It's sorta like being on drugs. Everything just -feels- better. 

When the Link is gone, that color turns to darkness. People wanna call it heaven and hell, and there's a few tracks that support that, but it's more about the way you react to life. Even LOST is more about just being paranoid, being afraid, being angry, etc. You feel like you ain't got shit to look forward to.

I want to, at some point, make an animation based on lost and found where theres like a tunnel and LOST is the tunnel. You're covered in god knows what. you're lost. You don't know where you are. You're afraid of the bugs and shit crawling on you.

But then you come out of the tunnel and bam the world is some garden of eden type shit. You stop feeling scared. You stop feeling lost. You can see everything and you feel like everything is at peace. 

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August 29, 2016
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krunkazphuk said
I see TMML Lost/Found  as places like Carnival of Carnage rather than as objects (Riddle Box) or creatures personifying something (Ringmaster.) They remind me of when I watched the series Andromeda and there was something called the Abyss. Characters were aligned with the Abyss, or infected with it, and sometimes trapped there, but some fought to avoid or destroy it. Maybe it comes down to choosing a path (faith/faithless, light/dark, etc.) and since ICP says Lost has no humor and all the jokes are on Found this duality is like a clowny version of the old Greek theater masks.

theatre.jpg

"The group themselves explain, “This new album is unquestionably the most direct and in-your-face Joker’s Card we’ve ever released. The Marvelous Missing Link: LOST challenges the listener to consider the importance of faith in their life and how they are truly Lost without it. This record dares you to think about the big issues in your life … while at the same time delivering the ruthless Detroit wicked shit that the world has come to expect – and fear — from the Insane Clown Posse. Mad clown love to our Juggalo family all over the world!”"

Source: http://www.spin.com/2015/04/in.....st-stream/

 

   

 

? Seems like you put more thought into it than ICP have

August 29, 2016
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Guwop said  
 
  Seems like you put more thought into it than ICP have  

Maybe in a "Monday morning quarterback" or "Captain Hindsight" kind of way. ICP creates the albums, and I just get to think about the mythology occasionally for fun. 

 

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Chevy2Dope said
I think the idea that TMML doesn't really "feel like" a character in the way pretty much any of their other Joker Cards do was a big miss with those albums. All the others, especially the first six, somehow feel like a real entity in the album. Not so much TMML, it's more just an album title and that's it.   

Guess you can think of tmml like a link between entities, it is smack dab in the middle of the deck. If the face was just chains, no face you wouldnt be so caught up on it being a character. 

I could easily picture a black background wit a broken chain for lost, and a white background wit a completed chain for found.

Wit that being said it should of been the bizzar/bizaar of the second deck, linking the 1st half of the deck to the second half

August 29, 2016
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

 linking the 1st half of the deck to the second half  

It is like a division...

...interesting...

...I wonder what's in store for the found half of the deck.ninja

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August 29, 2016
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I hadn't considered the division thing. It's an interesting interpretation. 

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August 29, 2016
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I thought it was pretty easy. They are entities but they are more like a descriptive entity. At the very basic level somewhat of a an avatar for how you feel. They are songs that describe feelings of being lost and being found. If you have to put it in terms of "The Carnival" They could almost be described as wrist bands lol. Regardless they were pretty dumb ideas. 

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Noah Fence said
I hadn't considered the division thing. It's an interesting interpretation.   

Split1open said

It is like a division...

...interesting...

...I wonder what's in store for the found half of the deck.ninja  

Like i said before i think of soooo many different possibilities, i get called crazy more than i hear whoops at the gathering.

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Joel420 said   

SPOOKYtheFUNGI said   
I guess it resembles the wraith, but the big difference is the fact that lost and found is about life on this earth and not when you die.  

Ya I agree with that. Life is a fucked up great thing. There's so much bad shit in life. But there's alot of good too. Everything happens for a reason.

I should deff know that. I'm turning myself in tomorrow to go to prison. I'm gonna go do 2 years im pretty sure.

One of the things im gonna miss the most is this shit right here. Being in touch with the juggalo world and my fellow juggalos.

Ill miss ya'll!!  MFL!!!!  Whoop Whoop  

did this just kinda glide right by...? 

 

well. 

head up and eyes open, yo.  keep your shit wired tight, read the terrain, youll be all right. 

and try not to be one of those twits that thinks prison culture has squat to do with the outside.  you dont wanna go through the rest of your life bein a con;  instead, just a guy who did a bit. 

well be here, tending a light for ya. 

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August 30, 2016
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Im guessing the OP downloaded the album and did not read the detailed descriptions in the booklet...

Hard copies ninjas.... it's important.

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Joel420 said 

Ya I agree with that. Life is a fucked up great thing. There's so much bad shit in life. But there's alot of good too. Everything happens for a reason.

I should deff know that. I'm turning myself in tomorrow to go to prison. I'm gonna go do 2 years im pretty sure.

One of the things im gonna miss the most is this shit right here. Being in touch with the juggalo world and my fellow juggalos.

Ill miss ya'll!!  MFL!!!!  Whoop Whoop  

No advice to give; I'll do my best here & hope you do the same there.

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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

Split1open said
It is like a division...

...interesting...

...I wonder what's in store for the found half of the deck.ninja  

Like i said before i think of soooo many different possibilities, i get called crazy more than i hear whoops at the gathering.  

It's al good. As an art major, I tend to spend a lot of time interpreting art and finding weird connections to things. People think I go over board, too. Like people used to give me shit for saying that Jumpsteady was an homage to Malcolm X until Jumpsteady himself confirmed it. And then when I compared Carnival of Carnage to a figure in islamic mythology, I got real life genuine hate mail including death threats which just left me feeling really baffled. 

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Sorry, that's just how I say hello. 

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To me lost is like en encouraging omnipresence that kicks it with you when ur fucken doing all the shit your not supposed to. Especially when you know right from wrong.
He surrounds you when you resufe to see the light.
He lubricates your fucken sorrow.
I also like to think he appears when your fucken up but doesnt do shit. Like your mascot when u enter your world of darkness.
A horrendous sign that should be welcomed. At least god is telling you that something is missing. Which means there is something to gain...

Found to me is the like metaphysical representation of god. Hes this fucken Awesome jester that can blow away a demon with a simple chuckle and refill you cup.
Hes something i can look at and remember im not alone and how stupid i am for trippin. Hes right there. How can in have worried when i hold the key?
Like i dont really listen to the bible. Some shit stuck growing up some i relearned in like reggae lyrics.
But this truck driver at my job told me something like "if you resist him he will desist".  Im 100% sure i misquoted that horribly.
But he said it better..like if u just try to ypu know let your shine off to block and blind him you will.
When i see the missing link found i remember all this. When i hear found i remember. When i hear time. I remember im found and im brusting. And i feel fucken amazing when i do.
So yeah mascots bruh.

 

Buttt i also like to listen to it like im listening to it with a group of people and i cant just assume god. Like i like to think about other ninjas links and faiths. Atheist or not. Like i dont believe in hell but when they talk about it i think about my karma and my present day life and how i can fuck it up by my actions and all the negative energy i put out. Thats my hell my, my worst fears come to life. I could do that with the quickness by doing the bad i know how to do so well.

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