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@piggofdoom said
... Small businessess should get tax cuts, not large businesses. ...
The small business tax cut is within his tax bill:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/04/26/small-businesses-get-hefty-tax-cut-trump-plan/100941120/
http://www.politico.com/agenda.....ich-000430
I do support universal health coverage. Trump has seemed to say as much himself. I understand that the healthcare system is incredibly complicated and it won't be fixed overnight, but I think the country that spends the most on its healthcare SHOULD be able to find a way to guarantee coverage for its citizens. I am even OK with an Obamacare repeal so long as there is a replacement that offers better care at a lower cost. If that is market-based, that's A-OK with me.
I believe the Affordable Care Act repeal is a must. And if any replacement happens, it needs to be market-based.
I DO support providing secondary education or vocational training to U.S. citizens, but I don't think it should be some blanket we throw over everyone so they can half ass their way through it. They have to want it. If someone works hard and does well in high school, they should have a chance to work towards the career they want. I see it as an investment in our population. I also understand there is a downside to this, there will be college graduates working low-wage, low-skilled jobs. But there are college graduates working those jobs NOW, just with 25 thousand dollars of debt hung around their neck.
I support increasing the number of federal / state grants and the amounts of those grants all the way to full tuition coverage to those who did well academically. This would be a good investment. I do not support blanket free college either.
I support free speech on college campuses, even the speech of those radically opposed to my viewpoint. At the same time, I understand when universities shut events down out of fear of violence. I don't think any group should be above ridicule, as long as that ridicule is done in a respectful way and is not a tool for an ulterior motive.
I feel this can be solved by enforcement of permits and anti-conflict scheduling. Only permitted groups are allowed to represent and counter-protest can be scheduled when they don't intersect.
I support the second amendment. You want to hunt? Go hunt! You feel the need to protect yourself? Get that handgun! You just think guns are cool and want to have a shitload? Go for it! But I also believe we can do better in preventing senseless gun violence.
Absolutely, and yes ... we can do better in preventing gun violence. As I have stated about year ago in some other thread, I believe gun violence is a geographical social-economic issue. Fix the area's social economic problems and the gun violence will drop.
http://www.politifact.com/illi.....-violence/
I support renewable energy. I would support renewable energy even if I doubted the science behind climate change. 100% renewable energy means and energy independent U.S.A., and that sounds like a damn good thing to me.
Trumps idea is to stop subsidizing renewable energy companies but to also fund research into renewable energy and let the free market do it's job with companies that choose to utilize the outcome of the research. The goal of federal research investments should be "a consistent, long-term supply of lower-cost American energy." That goal, it asserts, can be achieved through "a clean energy portfolio composed of fossil, nuclear, and renewable energy sources." Research is the key. That is what is invested in.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/memoranda/2017/m-17-30.pdf
Why is everyone so focused on the shit that is tearing us apart?
Why aren't we working together on the shit we can actually get done?
8:40 pm
August 20, 2012
Psyral Infection said
@piggofdoom said
... Small businessess should get tax cuts, not large businesses. ...The small business tax cut is within his tax bill:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/04/26/small-businesses-get-hefty-tax-cut-trump-plan/100941120/
http://www.politico.com/agenda.....ich-000430I do support universal health coverage. Trump has seemed to say as much himself. I understand that the healthcare system is incredibly complicated and it won't be fixed overnight, but I think the country that spends the most on its healthcare SHOULD be able to find a way to guarantee coverage for its citizens. I am even OK with an Obamacare repeal so long as there is a replacement that offers better care at a lower cost. If that is market-based, that's A-OK with me.
I believe the Affordable Care Act repeal is a must. And if any replacement happens, it needs to be market-based.
I DO support providing secondary education or vocational training to U.S. citizens, but I don't think it should be some blanket we throw over everyone so they can half ass their way through it. They have to want it. If someone works hard and does well in high school, they should have a chance to work towards the career they want. I see it as an investment in our population. I also understand there is a downside to this, there will be college graduates working low-wage, low-skilled jobs. But there are college graduates working those jobs NOW, just with 25 thousand dollars of debt hung around their neck.
I support increasing the number of federal / state grants and the amounts of those grants all the way to full tuition coverage to those who did well academically. This would be a good investment. I do not support blanket free college either.
I support free speech on college campuses, even the speech of those radically opposed to my viewpoint. At the same time, I understand when universities shut events down out of fear of violence. I don't think any group should be above ridicule, as long as that ridicule is done in a respectful way and is not a tool for an ulterior motive.
I feel this can be solved by enforcement of permits and anti-conflict scheduling. Only permitted groups are allowed to represent and counter-protest can be scheduled when they don't intersect.
I support the second amendment. You want to hunt? Go hunt! You feel the need to protect yourself? Get that handgun! You just think guns are cool and want to have a shitload? Go for it! But I also believe we can do better in preventing senseless gun violence.
Absolutely, and yes ... we can do better in preventing gun violence. As I have stated about year ago in some other thread, I believe gun violence is a geographical social-economic issue. Fix the area's social economic problems and the gun violence will drop.
http://www.politifact.com/illi.....-violence/I support renewable energy. I would support renewable energy even if I doubted the science behind climate change. 100% renewable energy means and energy independent U.S.A., and that sounds like a damn good thing to me.
Trumps idea is to stop subsidizing renewable energy companies but to also fund research into renewable energy and let the free market do it's job with companies that choose to utilize the outcome of the research. The goal of federal research investments should be "a consistent, long-term supply of lower-cost American energy." That goal, it asserts, can be achieved through "a clean energy portfolio composed of fossil, nuclear, and renewable energy sources." Research is the key. That is what is invested in.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/memoranda/2017/m-17-30.pdfWhy is everyone so focused on the shit that is tearing us apart?
Why aren't we working together on the shit we can actually get done?
Psyral, i truly appreciate the effort you put in here, you and i both know its wasted air. These commie fucks have made up there mind, everyone who doesnt agree with them and supports Trump is a Nazi...lets fucking embrace it.
9:07 pm
July 28, 2016
Ubi said
Psyral, i truly appreciate the effort you put in here, you and i both know its wasted air. These commie fucks have made up there mind, everyone who doesnt agree with them and supports Trump is a Nazi...lets fucking embrace it.
Ubi said
back to my original point....
JUGGALOS WILL EITHER SIDE WITH ANTIFA OR GET LABELED NAZIS AND ATTACKED.
THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND WITH ANTIFA.
to all the cucks wishing me dead on here....:) im sooo happy im in your heads and you probably still raging like the Antifa commie scum you are.
Pick one. Either it's wrong to label your political opponents as extremists with no compromise OR antifa are extremists with no compromise. You can't have both lol.
If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter
10:28 pm
August 20, 2012
Noah Fence said
Ubi said
back to my original point....
JUGGALOS WILL EITHER SIDE WITH ANTIFA OR GET LABELED NAZIS AND ATTACKED.
THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND WITH ANTIFA.
to all the cucks wishing me dead on here....:) im sooo happy im in your heads and you probably still raging like the Antifa commie scum you are.
Pick one. Either it's wrong to label your political opponents as extremists with no compromise OR antifa are extremists with no compromise. You can't have both lol.
Since it seems to have went over your head "somehow"
We're arent being left with any option, playing Antifas game is the only way to go.
12:12 am
July 28, 2016
12:14 am
July 28, 2016
Also the nazis predate antifa but if all it takes to push "moderates" to the extremes is a little opposition maybe they aren't wrong to lump you together.
You know, you just convinced me. I'm gonna go join them now. Even though I support them my style of protest doesn't work and you just demonstrated that theirs pushes racists to out themselves. That's way better.
If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter
12:31 am
August 20, 2012
Noah Fence said
Also the nazis predate antifa but if all it takes to push "moderates" to the extremes is a little opposition maybe they aren't wrong to lump you together.You know, you just convinced me. I'm gonna go join them now. Even though I support them my style of protest doesn't work and you just demonstrated that theirs pushes racists to out themselves. That's way better.
its cute you guys think racists exist when were at the height of black culture being appropriated.
i live in houston and speak spanish (limited) work with blacks and hispanics exclusively im like one of 5 white people out of 50 employees, they love me too...especially the mexican ladies.
I wont stand idly by and allow you fake juggalos and the rest of the alt left to destroy Americas culture. Nor will i allow you to claim all whites are racist if they dont side with you and Antifa.
1:13 am
July 28, 2016
When Mexicans call you puta it's not a term of endearment lol.
Ubi said
its cute you guys think racists exist when were at the height of black culture being appropriated.
Cultural appropriation is racism you fucking ignoramus
I wont stand idly by and allow you fake juggalos and the rest of the alt left to destroy Americas culture. Nor will i allow you to claim all whites are racist if they dont side with you and Antifa.
All whites are racist. You said so yourself ten minutes ago when you said calling people nazi turns them into nazis. It's just sitting under your disgusting whiteness.
If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter
1:18 am
July 28, 2016
6:11 am
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February 15, 2014
@noah-fence said
... Turn off info wars. Theyre lying to you, manipulating you.
Wait ... What? ... So they aren't turning the freakin' frogs gay?
And you are probably one of those people that think his show is just a front for him selling his Caveman™ energy supplement drink at 30% off for a limited time only, exclusively at InfoWars . com !
...
Truth be told. I like Alex Jones and Infowars. It's poignant, comical, and sometimes satirical with politically biased news thrown into the mix - It's like the Daily Show or the old Colbert Report. If you don't laugh at least once during an Alex Jones, Trevor Noah, or Steven Colbert show, then you are watching it incorrectly.
Whoop Whoop Psyral :
Ubi6:52 am
May 4, 2014
12:15 pm
August 3, 2016
Well, this thread went about how I expected it to.
Just a reminder that I made this thread to appeal to the Juggalos who are marching to not get used as a tool by the media or any other outfit looking at us as a resource to be exploited.
I have political opinions of my own, but I prefer to keep them to myself because posting them only results in shitflinging and dick measuring, which make the board fucking lame.
Ubi, you're a goddamn moron. I'm not saying this because of your politics or even for the inflammatory shit you say- I'm a free speech kinda guy myself and it's your right to sound like a jackass. I say that because everything you say is just you parroting memes and rhetoric you got from somewhere else, to the point of contradiction. Even if you have decent point to make, it's wrapped in sheer literal ignorance and the impression that you can't carry an original thought in your brain. It's obvious that you're looking for an enemy too, as you keep bringing everything back to how ANTIFA acts and our only option is to play their game (somehow?). Aside from the fact that this isn't about them, it's about us, anybody with a different opinion gets you screeching and calling everyone cucks. It's a different flavor, but those are the same ho tactics used by the side you claim to hate so much.
It doesn't make anybody a 'fake Juggalo' because they don't follow your idea of how things should be. It's exactly because you carry yourself like an ignorant bigot (and I don't mean derogatory labeling, I mean the words as they are defined in Webster's dictionary) that people don't wanna listen to your shit. By the way you present it everybody capable of critical thought is a cuck if they don't agree, and the hot turds you've dropped all over the forum are more than enough to prove my original point for me.
Whoop Whoop TheFvckinKreeper :
scruffy12:34 pm
January 19, 2013
Psyral Infection said
If you don't laugh at least once during an Alex Jones, Trevor Noah, or Steven Colbert show, then you are watching it incorrectly.
Trevor sucks.
I'll take an ugly funnyman over a smug pretty boy any day of the week.
Also, Mark Dice has kinda taken Alex Jones' place on my youtube schedule.
I find him funnier and more focused.
But Alex will always be the man for helping put Trump over the top. ?
1:02 pm
May 4, 2014
Miklo Velka said
Trevor sucks...
TheFvckinKreeper said
Well, this thread went about how I expected it to.Just a reminder that I made this thread to appeal to the Juggalos who are marching to not get used as a tool by the media or any other outfit looking at us as a resource to be exploited...
I also applaud your well-intentioned topic. Violent radicals on multiple sides make me hope the well-intentioned Juggalo marchers will be safe in their peaceful cause. Seems anyone looking for a street fight these days will get one, and since Psy has repeatedly denounced any violence I hope it goes smoothly.
Whoop Whoop krunk :
TheFvckinKreeper, Psyral, SPOOKYtheFUNGI
5:13 pm
August 20, 2012
TheFvckinKreeper said
Well, this thread went about how I expected it to.Just a reminder that I made this thread to appeal to the Juggalos who are marching to not get used as a tool by the media or any other outfit looking at us as a resource to be exploited.
I have political opinions of my own, but I prefer to keep them to myself because posting them only results in shitflinging and dick measuring, which make the board fucking lame.
Ubi, you're a goddamn moron. I'm not saying this because of your politics or even for the inflammatory shit you say- I'm a free speech kinda guy myself and it's your right to sound like a jackass. I say that because everything you say is just you parroting memes and rhetoric you got from somewhere else, to the point of contradiction. Even if you have decent point to make, it's wrapped in sheer literal ignorance and the impression that you can't carry an original thought in your brain. It's obvious that you're looking for an enemy too, as you keep bringing everything back to how ANTIFA acts and our only option is to play their game (somehow?). Aside from the fact that this isn't about them, it's about us, anybody with a different opinion gets you screeching and calling everyone cucks. It's a different flavor, but those are the same ho tactics used by the side you claim to hate so much.
It doesn't make anybody a 'fake Juggalo' because they don't follow your idea of how things should be. It's exactly because you carry yourself like an ignorant bigot (and I don't mean derogatory labeling, I mean the words as they are defined in Webster's dictionary) that people don't wanna listen to your shit. By the way you present it everybody capable of critical thought is a cuck if they don't agree, and the hot turds you've dropped all over the forum are more than enough to prove my original point for me.
have you watched Berkeley? Boston? or Charlottesville you all cry about? THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND NOT EVEN FOR POLICE.
i dont parrot anything but the truth, i actually listen to what the potus says and the alt left medias twist on it. its cute you think i just copy memes that i have a big hand in making.
5:19 pm
August 20, 2012
Noah Fence said
When Mexicans call you puta it's not a term of endearment lol.All whites are racist. You said so yourself ten minutes ago when you said calling people nazi turns them into nazis. It's just sitting under your disgusting whiteness.
Ok noah maybe i used the wrong word.....
"We're at the height of white kids like you wishing they were black" better?
Blacks are idolized and glorified in tons of ways we even have white dressing up as black and pulling it off to an amazing extent see: Rachel Dolezal, Shaun King.
Your last claim is anything but genuine, Claiming someone is a Nazi doesnt turn them into Nazis in their own mind but the group think tank that makes that claim have more than assured themselves of it.
whats next you gonna make me disavow the kkk and david duke? then bitch i didnt do it from the start?
pathetic.
6:53 pm
March 30, 2013
Ubi said
Ok noah maybe i used the wrong word.....
"We're at the height of white kids like you wishing they were black" better?
Blacks are idolized and glorified in tons of ways we even have white dressing up as black and pulling it off to an amazing extent see: Rachel Dolezal, Shaun King.
Your last claim is anything but genuine, Claiming someone is a Nazi doesnt turn them into Nazis in their own mind but the group think tank that makes that claim have more than assured themselves of it.
whats next you gonna make me disavow the kkk and david duke? then bitch i didnt do it from the start?
pathetic.
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