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The Missing Link: Lost & Found (Official Discussion)
April 29, 2015
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i would have purchased a copy on release day from my record store had I known my order still wouldn't have shipped by the day after release. I don't get it. They are a record label, the number one priority should be selling the music. Especially from the labels owners and star act. If my shit isn't holographic or 3D I'm going to be pissed. That is the only reason I preordered. They lied and it was a sneaky tactic to sell more copies directly from them. Not shipping cds by release date is another snake ass tactic so people go and buy one in the mean time. They may not have released multiple versions this time but they know how to sell extra copies. you fucking snakes. It's a shame they are now upset with strange music for "stealing" the way they do stuff but strange is running circles around psy. Even new labels like funk volume and majik ninja are surpassing them. Sorry for the rant. I just want my fucking cd, in not gonna sit here and listen to the album through my phone for a week.

April 29, 2015
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wait till Christmas, when they Box up both Lost and Found with the EP. and the Outtakes CD, into a 4CD slipcover box with Lenticular (Lost n Found) Cover for $16.99

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the_almighty_smack said
I got mine yesterday and I am in Canada

 

and it was no hologram cover either

 

http://www.hatchetherald.com/p.....ebruary-17

A more recent HH only mentions a 3d embossed sleeve (no hologram.) "Also remember that you only have a FEW WEEKS LEFT TO ORDER THE SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION HATCHET GEAR VERSION OF "THE MARVELOUS MISSING LINK (LOST), which comes in a special 3D embossed sleeve that will NOT BE AVAILABLE IN STORES!"

http://www.hatchetherald.com/6.....-instantly

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chops said
First off having the image be raised slightly is bullshit and NOT 3d/holographic. I'm going to file with the bbb. Hatchetgear has turned into a joke. Hire more people or quit trying to do preorders bc they have all been fucked for the past 2-3 years. Get it together. You are not a record label but a wrestling organization that happens to sell music. Good luck with that

You do know that the BBB will do nothing. It is a racket. It is not part of the government. It is a private organization that extorts money from businesses. Here are a few links -> http://bbbthetruth.com/about-2/ and http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/.....d=12123843 and http://bsb.thebluesmokeband.com/bbb.php and ... Well, just google it. It's an organization that has no power to do anything except collect dues from companies that want a good ranking. If you don't pay, you automatically get a bad ranking. It's been on the news many times from CNN reports to ABC to 20/20. They have all shown that it is a scam that the American public believes.

Just FYI.

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Trust me I know the bbb is bullshit. My only other option is driving to Michigan and knocking on the front door. Instead I'll just sit here and watch as psy fucks up another major release of there's. in a few months they'll anounce how much of fuck up it was and say they cleaned house again. Maybe they should start at the top

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krunkazphuk said 

A more recent HH only mentions a 3d embossed sleeve (no hologram.) "Also remember that you only have a FEW WEEKS LEFT TO ORDER THE SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION HATCHET GEAR VERSION OF "THE MARVELOUS MISSING LINK (LOST), which comes in a special 3D embossed sleeve that will NOT BE AVAILABLE IN STORES!"

http://www.hatchetherald.com/6.....-instantly

But when I pre-order it on Juggalo day, it said "The pre-order version of this album will come packaged in a special 3D hologram cover that will NOT BE AVAILABLE IN STORES OR TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC! The only way to get this special limited edition version of “The Marvelous Missing Link (Lost)” is to pre-order the album from Hatchet Gear before the general release date of April 28, 2015."

You can see what it said back then on the Way Back Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/201.....ssing-link

I gots proof! :)

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dramaman127 said  
glad i found the official  discussion    

glad you posted within the forum.  

the main page is just window dressing.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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krunkazphuk said
This contact info from HatchetGear may help:

If you have any questions about your order or anything else to do with HatchetGear.com, you can contact us at 248-426-0115 or [email protected]

Customer Service is available Monday-Friday, 10:00AM-5:00PM Eastern.

 

Please Note:  Packages may take up to 2 weeks to be Processed , Printed and Shipped. 

That would actually be helpful if HG actually answered. 

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April 29, 2015
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Whenever i had problems with and Order i just blew their phones up w/Redial till someone answered...but ive found most times they answer between 1:00-2:00pm Est. right after lunch.

When they do answer its like "Omfg what do you want"....however i think they hired a Lady to answer now.

But im betting with the volume of people Emailing/Calling/Tweeting they aint picking up the phones untill they get their shit together on this one.

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chops said
i would have purchased a copy on release day from my record store had I known my order still wouldn't have shipped by the day after release. I don't get it. They are a record label, the number one priority should be selling the music. Especially from the labels owners and star act. If my shit isn't holographic or 3D I'm going to be pissed. That is the only reason I preordered. They lied and it was a sneaky tactic to sell more copies directly from them. Not shipping cds by release date is another snake ass tactic so people go and buy one in the mean time. They may not have released multiple versions this time but they know how to sell extra copies. you fucking snakes. It's a shame they are now upset with strange music for "stealing" the way they do stuff but strange is running circles around psy. Even new labels like funk volume and majik ninja are surpassing them. Sorry for the rant. I just want my fucking cd, in not gonna sit here and listen to the album through my phone for a week.

Yeah im getting that feeling too. That the delay in shipping was intentional. "Family family family!" Shit, that died out loooong ago. I consider it more of a fandom now.

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April 29, 2015
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We should write letters, I know that may sound stupid but seriously when they fuck have they gotten letters from a big amount of ninjas showing disappointment, not for this pre-order thing but for everything lately. Im not saying we should write letters telling em to fuck off and burn, but say hey we got mad love and always will but this shit is embarrassing for everybody and get your fucking shit in gear. It couldn't hurt, if 2 people did it atleast somebody's probably gonna end up reading it, but if they got a bunch of mail they would be like WTF and start seeing what its about, atleast someone would then atleast see that people are getting to the end of the road unless shit is gonna start turning around to how it was. You can shake your head and laugh but atleast we would be saying something not just bitching about here. All of psychopathic's websites FAQ's say write a letter if you wanna say what up. We could all do it and send em in at relatively the same time... THINK ABOUT IT

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We should write letters, I know that may sound stupid but seriously when they fuck have they gotten letters from a big amount of ninjas showing disappointment, not for this pre-order thing but for everything lately. Im not saying we should write letters telling em to fuck off and burn, but say hey we got mad love and always will but this shit is embarrassing for everybody and get your fucking shit in gear. It couldn't hurt, if 2 people did it atleast somebody's probably gonna end up reading it, but if they got a bunch of mail they would be like WTF and start seeing what its about, atleast someone would then atleast see that people are getting to the end of the road unless shit is gonna start turning around to how it was. You can shake your head and laugh but atleast we would be saying something not just bitching about here. All of psychopathic's websites FAQ's say write a letter if you wanna say what up. We could all do it and send em in at relatively the same time... THINK ABOUT IT

Not a bad idea. Unfortunately, they wouldnt read them or even care. There is no family anymore really. Theres just music now.

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April 29, 2015
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When I had pre-ordered the 3 versions of TMDP, I had ordered that 2 months before release and got it a week after release.  I ordered TMML on 4/14/15 and 4/17/15 it went to Printed status and just checked it and still at that status.  I went to Meijer to get the retail version until I get my Hatchet Gear copy and I am thinking next week Ill get it and I live in Lansing, Michigan.  Its a bit frustrating, but, being 38 years old, I have much more to be pissed off about - RITE AID and my fucking Suboxone script...........whew, I feel better now!

But out of all the songs on TMML: LOST - I See The Devil is the track that really impacts me.  Hence, why I used the chorus as my signature.  Kinda funny that a new album from ICP would get you thinking bout things in your own life, faith, hope, etc and yeah...I would love to see them close the shows with I See The Devil and during the last few minutes where its just the chorus they can do Faygo Armageddon and that would be awesome to see.

Find your missing link............

Runnin' Out Of Time / Looking For The Light / Something Isnt Right / The Devil's Grip Is Tight / Cause I'm Runnin' Out Of Time / Leave It All Behind / If My Soul Was On The Line / Can My Body Hide / From The Devil Inside

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Also, instead of checking Hatchet Gear to see if it has been shipped, maybe look in the email that you used.  I just did and Hatchet Gear sent me an email stating my order has been shipped.  So, get ready, here they come.  The shipping label for my pre-order was created 2:19 pm on the 29th, yesterday for some and today for others due to time zones and my account on Hatchet Gear says Printed for the status but it was shipped out earlier today.  Hope that is good news for those who havent got theirs yet

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Runnin' Out Of Time / Looking For The Light / Something Isnt Right / The Devil's Grip Is Tight / Cause I'm Runnin' Out Of Time / Leave It All Behind / If My Soul Was On The Line / Can My Body Hide / From The Devil Inside

April 29, 2015
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Guys, it sucks, but face it: Mall juggalos [which tend to be more of a passing phase types] -- and the stores in these malls -- are much more important than the guys that pre-ordered that shit. I kept meaning too, but I'm glad I didn't.  Just remember that ALL initial stock goes to fill stores orders [I don't know that for certain, I could be wrong, but I doubt I am], and the crumbs go to the fans when the monkeys from the wizard of oz decide to get back to work. They're probably busy getting stoned and 'borrowing' merchandise. It'll ship about 2 weeks from yesterday and you'll have it about 3 weeks after the release date.

Enjoy the future butthurt over the GOTJ ticket giveaway fuck up. Just saying.

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Haha I hope everyone enjoys their Leg Diamond limited edition Beach towels...

 

April 30, 2015
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My order just got shipped and complete. Also I got word that hatchetgear got backed up while planning the Marvelous Missing Link in-store tour. I'm hoping they send me the exclusive cover. If not I'll be ticked because I have no desire to chase that CD variant down on eBay because I know people are gonna try to start selling it for 50 bucks or more.

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MetalHorrorGuitarWhat said
Guys, it sucks, but face it: Mall juggalos [which tend to be more of a passing phase types] -- and the stores in these malls -- are much more important than the guys that pre-ordered that shit. I kept meaning too, but I'm glad I didn't.  Just remember that ALL initial stock goes to fill stores orders [I don't know that for certain, I could be wrong, but I doubt I am], and the crumbs go to the fans when the monkeys from the wizard of oz decide to get back to work. They're probably busy getting stoned and 'borrowing' merchandise. It'll ship about 2 weeks from yesterday and you'll have it about 3 weeks after the release date.

Enjoy the future butthurt over the GOTJ ticket giveaway fuck up. Just saying.

If it really does end up being 3 weeks until i get my pre order, thatll be the last time ill ever do business with HG. Seriously, that would be some straight up BS man.

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MetalHorrorGuitarWhat said
Just remember that ALL initial stock goes to fill stores orders [I don't know that for certain, I could be wrong, but I doubt I am], and the crumbs go to the fans when the monkeys from the wizard of oz decide to get back to work. 

I don't think you understand how distribution works. They don't fill orders for stores, red does. So when ICP had the CD printed, a huge bunch of boxes went to them. A distributor asks for a certain amount, close to what they think will sell right away. The rest go into their warehouse. They make a higher percentage off cds sold online (less people take a cut) but it doesn't (usually) get counted in terms of soundscan. If they have a higher demand from red than they are expecting, they might use their stock at their warehouse, but it wouldn't be so much more that they wipe out their stock. It might be enough that when they got the order they issued a second printing and then forwarded their stock in the meantime but I really doubt it.

Most likely, it sounds like people who placed the order more than a month ago had their shit put in a box somewhere and the box went missing because their inventory control guy fucked up some paperwork, and they have to figure out whats going where.

I'm curious, too, if the people who haven't gotten it also ordered other stuff that might be out of stock and the order is showing that in their records as being pending and they're waiting on it.

 

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JonnMilenko said
wait till Christmas, when they Box up both Lost and Found with the EP. and the Outtakes CD, into a 4CD slipcover box with Lenticular (Lost n Found) Cover for $16.99

This is probably the best idea. That, or don't continue to trust the site that seems to be well know for being the shits at getting things out on time. A 3d cover or whatever isn't that neat and it was more expensive than like, every stores price as far as I know.

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did anybody who preordered this get some kinda message sent to them guaranteeing an arrival date?  

cuz the wording on hatchet gear generally includes a soooft grace period.  yall just been assumin too much.  

 

the difference between holograms and embossing, that is a clear fuck-up.  id like to see them address that, but otherwise...

seriously, you thought psychopathic was gonna be as sharp as world-spanning giants like amazon?  dreaming.  

 

as ive said in other threads about hatchetgear:  psy is just barely above the mom-and-pop level.  barely.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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