I wasn't referring too anyone throwing up the east people have been doing this for decades, or IP over skeletons.

I was referring to specific use of a skeleton hand east side symbol. Show me a picture of Twiztid using this before MBK.

Guest said
 "In my part of the country, when you meet an Irishman, you find a first-rate gentleman; but these are worse than savages; they are too mean to swab hell's kitchen." - Davy Crockett

Edit: That's not how intellectual property works, Machine. The burdon is on MBK to show they were the first to use a skeleton hand throwing that sign. Tons of companies have skeletons throwing shocker on shirts, stickers, you name it. Google skeleton shocker and take your pick. It is not MBKs IP, I don't see how they could claim otherwise. They didn't create anything they can't control the way that property is used. Next case!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8c9SFq5nM

^^ irish men

And I am not worried about who owns it, or who could sue who or anything of that matter. Just wondering if it looked like the idea might have been jacked from them, you know since the thread was about twiztid stealing lyrics, music, etc

as far as documenting who used the skull symbol this way first, it was MBK to my knowledge. Twiztid were literally talking to these people while they wore the shirts, then that Twiztid jersey comes out. If its a coincidence its a coincidence.

their whole new look is skeleton related, has nothing to do with jersey shore.

so if mbk stole it from the jersey shore vendors, who did twiztid steal it from mbk or jersey shore?

Or maybe, as I said, it's a generic ass idea.

Everyone is copying glan danzig and Andre Nickatina.

Danzig was jacking Crystar comics and a 1946 film called Crimson Ghost. 

I don't need to explain again that blockquotes glitch my mobile, do I? Regardless, scruffy said

"...  whatchu want me to say...?  

'wow, this is so cool, i hope everybody gets more and more angry with each other!'  "

I mean, I don't want you to say it, but it's definitely the direction everything has been going so you may as well.

Anyway, I can't be assed into listening to any of these underground Geraldo Riveras if I have to have to, but I think I got the gist from the thread's context. All I have to contribute is that plagiarism in music is not always a conscious effort. I really just want an excuse to use this as an example because I found it funny and here's a good place to bring it up:

For the first month or so it was fuckin' with me whenever it came up on the playlist. I'm like, "The flow on the hook is so familiar. Where the fuck did I hear this before?" Eventually it hit me.

Now, did Scum hear this shit and think "Damn, that's that fire. I gotta gank that and switch it up a lil bit for the hook on my new shit!" ...Not likely, though it is hilarious whenever that Juggalo DNA shines through with any horrorcore artist trying to distinguish themselves as something totally seperate. My point is, earworms are funny little creatures that I imagine behave strangely to the ears of other musical artists. 

The Source or XXL, one of those mags used to have a lil' side column comparing rappers who use the same lines/punchlines side by side. I used to just look at that waiting in line at 711.

As for what this means relative to the current topic I don't really know, I just wanted to contribute with my inane bullshit.

Twiztid has been throwing the east side up for decades now.

they've also been using skeletal imagery in their album artwork and merch designs for decades.

Now they've combined the two. That's hardly biting anyone. it's hardly an original idea anyway. big fuckin' deal.

Someone else already mentioned this, but here's the Rage Against The Machine song that ICP used the bass line from for "My Fun House".