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Tech N9ne confirms Serj Tankian of System of a Down for “Something Else” album!

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Now THIS is some pretty damn exciting news!  According to a new article at RollingStone.comTech N9ne has finally achieved a goal that he’s been talking about for YEARS!  He confirmed System of a Down front man Serj Tankian to be on the opening track of Tech N9ne‘s Something Else LP, due out on June 25th!  Also on the list of collabs are Cee Lo GreenBig Krit, and Game!  I’m sure Tech still has quite a few tricks up his sleeve, so be on the lookout for more news on this coming soon!  For now, peep the interview, which was conducted at the Paid Dues festival at this link:

Tech N9ne recruits Serj Tankian, Cee Lo Green for Something Else @ RollingStone.com

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  1. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 02:05 am GMT -5 at 2:05 am

    How many records does tech need to drop in a year before people realize it’s actually half assed music?

  2. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 02:26 am GMT -5 at 2:26 am

    this could go one of two ways. horribly wrong or a throw back to an era where serj was one of the most influential musicians of our generation.

    im not gunna rage on tech for doing shit with Game or Cee lo Green. techs doin’ tech and he’s gunna kill it regardless. this new LP is gunna be something else.

    looking forward to the doors track too.

  3. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 02:29 am GMT -5 at 2:29 am

    @ill – Because releasing a mediocre album every 3 years is working out so well for ICP? Perhaps that’s why Twiztid left? they were the only artists consistently working on new music.

    Artist on Strange are working hard as fuck, and producing killer albums. that’s undeniable.

  4. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 04:35 pm GMT -5 at 4:35 pm

    Hard as fuck by barely making an effort to put time in equals to shitty releases. Two or three releases a year equals rushed reusing material and not creating anything new. Oh the last 6 tech releases. Enjoy the same repeated songs puppet.

  5. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 05:37 pm GMT -5 at 5:37 pm

    the guy releases 3 EPs(not albums moron) in a year and clears top 10 billboard charts and he’s rushing work? how is releasing 21 songs in a year over doing it?

    maybe you should take the shit out your ears next time you listen to a tech album. cause the last time i listen to them, there was no J huffing and puffing trying to blow the microphone down.

  6. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 06:02 pm GMT -5 at 6:02 pm

    I’m a moron for stating something I never said. I never specified EPs or LPs… I said two or three releases every year. He has yet to clear top 10 on the Billboard 200. When artist spends more time worrying about releasing a record by a certain time they never take time to focus on new material. They’ll go back to used material and reuse it. Maybe you should take the fist out your ass and listen to his shitty six or 12 releases from the past 3 years and realize that constant releases ruins an artists imagination.

    What’s your fascination with J? Got a thing for the big guy? Want to go on a date with J? Think about him every second of your life? Jealous Sugar Slam got his seed and not you?

  7. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 09:42 pm GMT -5 at 9:42 pm

    All 6′s and 7′s peaked at number 4….
    so give me some examples of reused material. please point it out to me, as i clearly have no understand how the strange team works.
    wow, gay jokes. nice one.
    the reason i point out J is because well, they have fallen a long way since the last joker card. the new set sounds like reused mediocrity. and taking 3 years to put it out is a joke.
    nothing about the second hand outside of like 5 songs across all 8 cd’s they did for 2 albums.
    so in closing, please show me where tech reuses material. im all ears.

  8. Old Mr Dangerous

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 10:25 pm GMT -5 at 10:25 pm

    Sounds excellenté… and Cee-Lo is the shit too… despite his last solo album.

  9. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 10:46 pm GMT -5 at 10:46 pm

    Ollie Gates every song was repeated twice. Seepage every track is on a different record. How many songs does he have about him being mad/sad, being better than you, fucking more women than you and none of the lyrics change other than one word. How many party songs does he have on every record that are the exact same on another record. How many verses end up being the same shit as another verse. But clearly you’ll never realize as you’re no more than a puppet.

    See you can’t say you use J as an example as MDP was a phenomena record. 13 out of 17 were great.

  10. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 10:55 pm GMT -5 at 10:55 pm

    Pay no mind to “Illz the Clown” he shows up on every Tech N9ne article to complain and remind everybody that he’s not a fan and list off the reasons why lol anyway collabo with SOTD sounds cool, big fan of both

  11. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 11:12 pm GMT -5 at 11:12 pm

    Spell my name right. That’s Mr. iLLtheClown

  12. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 11:18 pm GMT -5 at 11:18 pm

    ^^^ lol, my mistake sir

  13. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013 11:45 pm GMT -5 at 11:45 pm

    the gates mixed plate wasnt his best album, i agree. but your point is still completely invalid.
    what do you want him to rap about? you clearly dont lisen to enough tech n9ne to talk shit. Tech’s style has progressed, but the core element of what he does has been the same since 2000 (and before)

    just like im not a fan of Icp’s new stuff.
    All in all, i really hope someone reins in serj for this track, cos he could get real weird real quick, and not in a good way.

  14. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 12:04 am GMT -5 at 12:04 am

    No my point has been proven numerous times. His style hasn’t progressed at all as even on Absolute Power he has the same songs as his more recent records. I’ve listened to enough tech to know every record he puts out is going to have the same 5 types of song. Party, Fuck, I’m different, I’m better and I’m sad songs on it. That’s all he knows how to do. Tech is wack & Strange is a fail. Tell Tech I said get new topics to rap about.

  15. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 12:13 am GMT -5 at 12:13 am

    your point is fail.
    Icp have stuck to the same subject matter for 20 years adn you dont call them whack.
    Strange is so whack and thats why tehy are the number one independant label in the world. NOT Psychopathic. go figure hey?

  16. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 12:15 am GMT -5 at 12:15 am

    actually, just to prove my point.
    who was the last relevant artist signed to psychopathic?

  17. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 12:25 am GMT -5 at 12:25 am

    At first iLL claimed it was only 4 subjects.

    Everything has been said before
    There’s nothing left to say anymore
    When it’s all the same
    You can ask for it by name

    Babble babble bitch bitch
    Rebel rebel party party
    Sex sex sex and don’t forget the “violence”
    Blah blah blah got your lovey-dovey sad-and-lonely
    Stick your STUPID SLOGAN in

    -Marylin Manson.

  18. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 12:36 am GMT -5 at 12:36 am

    Strange isn’t the number one independent label in the world. CJM, Goons MuSick, Fat Beats, Babygrande Records, Duck Down Records… Hell Psychopathic even succeeds with more records sold than Strange does with more artist putting out records. Subnoize even succeeds more than Strange. The last relevant artist signed to Psychopathic was Cold 187um shocking I say that? His mixtape sold better than half of Stranges roster could. MDP sold more records than all of Stranges releases did last year. Tech only hit 30 to 40 thousand Icp did 60 to 70 thousand.

  19. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 12:54 am GMT -5 at 12:54 am

    cold 187um BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    that guy is yesterdecades news. he latched onto teh juggalo’s because he didnt want to fade into obscurity.
    you obviously havent done your research.

    the only one of those record labels ive heard of is subnoize and they are digging themselves into a grave.

  20. scruffy

    scruffy

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 01:39 am GMT -5 at 1:39 am

    stimulating rhetoric.

  21. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 01:47 am GMT -5 at 1:47 am

    Bet you didn’t buy The Only Solution because it “used Psychopathic beats” bet you don’t understand what a mixtape is. You obviously only listen to the same three artist from same three record labels over the past 10 or more so 4 years. You obviously lack knowledge as to who has the most relevant label. You think Tech is a god on the mic he can’t even stand next to Rakim or Tek from Smif N Wessun. Cold 187umm put out a better record than the past 7 Tech EPs and three LPs. Tech latched on to Juggalos before it was cool.

    Hey Lucem everythings new when said to somebody who’s unreceptive to others opinions.

  22. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 02:17 am GMT -5 at 2:17 am

    i wish i had the energy to continue this debate, but i really cannot give a shit.
    i listen to a lot of artists, ive been following underground hip hop for 15 years. and teh only artists in that time that have ever stood out to me as having a solid work ethic, skills, great producers and a good presence (off and on stage) are Tech n9ne, Twiztid, ICP (to some extent, although now they just seem like they are grubbing for money), Necro, Ill Bill, KMK(ive never liked them very much, but respect what they used to do), Brotha lynch and a few others that evade my memory at the moment.

    the reality of the situation is that in this day and age you can’t just ride the success of one album for 3 years. tourings fine and all, but people want new music. i was aching for MDP for 2 years because i played BPB into the ground and was sorely let down because in my opinion it fell so far short of 2 years worth of waiting. every juggalo i know personally feels exactly the same way adn has since started moving away from ICP.

    don’t assume that i only listen to a select few artists, i’ll give anything a bash, but a lot of what is out there is utter trash. And at least Tech N9ne never lied and said he wasnt in it for the money.

  23. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 02:29 am GMT -5 at 2:29 am

    The reality is you can’t keep rushing half assed records expecting everybody to love it. The times have changed but good music is still never rushed. BPB was nearly a flawless record could’ve done without some tracks. Same with MDP it also could’ve also gone without some tracks. You followed underground hiphop for nearly 15 years and yet you never heard of any of those labels quit faking a front and admit you only listen to Juggalo favorite music. Tech is only in it for the money.

  24. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 02:34 am GMT -5 at 2:34 am

    Let’s make this fair since Tech’s last album was an EP. Tech’s last album that he promoted the fuck out of compared to ICP’s last album that they promoted the fuck out of.

    MDP sold 41,000 in the first week, and that included all three different versions that you a bunch of juggalos just had to collect.

    All 6s and 7s sold 56,000 in the first week. One version. No alternative covers, no alternative track listing and no extra albums.

    Then again if you want to compare proteges Abominationz more than doubled Krizz Kaliko’s Kickin’ and Screamin’.

    I can’t find any numbers on how many units Snowgoon’s last album sold, but I guess it’s only the second album of theirs to even reach the billboard top 100.

    I don’t think Ill Bill’s newest album even got on the top 100.

    And I don’t want to go threw the research of the other labels just to prove you wrong on them too.

  25. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 02:57 am GMT -5 at 2:57 am

    Actually MDP ended up pushing more after the first month. Tech last LP only did 26,000 Welcome To Strangeland. BPB did 50,000 in it’s first week and as of Oct. 2010 has done 100,000. Ill Bills last record holds better than the previous Tech records because it’s better crafted. Snowgoons Dynasty even holds better than the previous three Tech record.

    Those other labels I listed are power houses in the indie world as of April 4th 2013 3:57 a.m.

  26. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 03:00 am GMT -5 at 3:00 am

    I thought that All 6s and 7s was a nearly flawless record. I thought that K.O.D. was a nearly flawless record. I thought that Welcome to Strangeland was a nearly flawless record. I mean, I can listen to all of those albums with out skipping a track. I can listen to EBAH and Boiling Point with out skipping a track.

    I liked MDP, but I didn’t like it nearly as much as I liked those other albums. Hell, for something that took that long for them to do it seemed pretty half assed being as how the title track was basically a parody song (which is a slap in the face since it’s supposed to be a jokers card) Plus ‘Daisy’ wasn’t even mixed properly, the vocals were waaaayyyy too low on that track.

    Saying he’s “half assing” something is all purely speculation and assumptions. Personally, if that is him half assing music then when he really puts effort into it his music must be amazing.

    Saying his music is garbage is just purely opinions. Calling people sheep for liking it is the equivalent of people calling you a sheep for liking MDP. I don’t like Tech because he’s a juggalo, I don’t like music just because he puts it out, I like his music because I genuinely like his music.

    Oh, and since Tech once said, “I can’t wait until I can stop making music and just sit back and be a fan again and start going to concerts” it shows that he’s not just in it for the money. Hell, I think any musician that has worked from the bottom like that has to have an interest further than money. But, of course, he is going to be thinking about money every now and then.

  27. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 03:05 am GMT -5 at 3:05 am

    I’m going by first week of the two big hyped up and extremely highly advertised albums. MDP is ICP’s All 6s and 7s while Tech’s All 6s and 7s is ICP’s MDP.

    Both of them were the albums they both worked so hard on because they both were the albums that everybody was going to have their eyes on. Tech’s was because of the sudden amount of attention he started gaining and ICP’s was because of the amount of attention they got for Miracles.

  28. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 03:25 am GMT -5 at 3:25 am

    No you will like his music because he puts it out. If he didn’t put it out you wouldn’t fucking like. The Mighty Death Pop sounds like a parody? Or does it have a sample you recognize? Where did call somebody a sheep? I said puppet analyse the difference the two. Listen to the beat on Daisies if they were mixed any different it would sound like shit. That quote shows he doesn’t really have love for the craft. Tech doesn’t put effort in as he rushes every fucking record and every record has the same songs on them as the last. Tech isn’t a hardworker. If Tech put in real effort he’d actually have a semi decent record. And you being a unknown rapper, your opinion on how other people make music is that of jealousy, dislike, hound dog, imitator or some other shit. You listen to take I listen to enjoy.

  29. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 04:21 am GMT -5 at 4:21 am

    although i stepped out of this arguement cos its making my head hurt and ill is butt hurt because people dont share his opinion.
    techs not a juggalo. never has been. he supports juggalo music, he has worked with juggalo artists but his face paint (because clearly thats how you define a juggalo right?) has nothing to do with juggalos.
    there are tech songs i dont like, some songs i really dont like.
    i like his music because he works hard as fuck on it. say what you wanna say, but your opinion is your own.

  30. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 06:48 am GMT -5 at 6:48 am

    Practically everything Illtheclown posted about Tech N9ne and Strange is a flat out lie…….”Welcome to Strangeland” sold 86,000 copies not 26 and anybody with a Google search engine can find that out…….Cold 187′s mixtape has sold a little over 6,000 copies so far, thats less then anything strange has dropped LP wise since Young Bleed….. Ill the clowns “facts” on 90% of this page are make believe……I’m just gonna quote you shit and prove you wrong right quick……..

    Ill SAID – “MDP sold more records than all of Stranges releases did last year. Tech only hit 30 to 40 thousand Icp did 60 to 70 thousand.

    FALSE- THE MDP so far has soundscanned 87,064 copies……… Techs 3 EP’s last year combines have sold nearly as much as that, Klusterfukk sold 34,379 EBAH sold 24,260 & Boiling Point sold 21,043……Equalling a total of 79,682

    And I could go on and on and dissprove everything you said……. Point being, its okay to like somthing but you dont have to lie to validate your opinion…….. Anybody with a cursory knowledge of Google could see that your facts and figures are full of shit.

    I dont want this post to get deleted so I didnt add any links, but hit me up on twitter and I’ll send you proof of everything I posted

    ILL SAID – “The last relevant artist signed to Psychopathic was Cold 187um shocking I say that? His mixtape sold better than half of Stranges roster could.”

    FALSE – Cold 187um’s mixtape “The Only Solution” has soundscanned 4,510 copies…… That is less then almost every artist on the strange roster since 2012……Prozaks Paranormal has sold 16,457 , Stevie Stones Rolling Stone has sold 15,782m Krizz Kaliko’s Kickin N Screamin has sold 25,835, Brotha Lynch Hungs Mannibal Lector is has sold 16,632 & even Kutt Calhoun’s Black Gold, which came out 3 weeks ago has also outsold that currently sitting at 7,225…….. I’m not sure how this site feels about Links to other sites but I can easily proe this post with links to soundscan sites…..

    Ill SAID – “Strange isn’t the number one independent label in the world. CJM, Goons MuSick, Fat Beats, Babygrande Records, Duck Down Records Psychopathic even succeeds with more records sold than Strange does with more artist putting out records. Subnoize even succeeds more than Strange.”

    FALSE – All the labels you named sell less records then Strange and I will now go into another long soundscane list of actual record sales….

    Fat Beats recently big release was Ill Bills “The Grimy Awards” which didnt even chart on the billboard 200, so far to date Ill Bills album has only sold 2,144 ……… Kutt Calhouns album came out the same week and has so far sold three times as many copies……

    Duck Downs biggest selling artist of 2012 was Sean Price with his “Mic Tyson” album……. an album which only sold 14,152 copies……. That total is less then Krizz Kaliko, Stevie Stone & Prozak individually sold…… Also, all 3 of Tech N9nes EP sold better then that on its own as well……..

  31. Slumerican502

    Slumerican502

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 07:44 am GMT -5 at 7:44 am

    I like this guy…Very methodically breaks it all down into inarguable facts and information…Kudos….Oh yeah, Tech is dope… Serj is dope…To the dudes at the top SOAD has ALWAYS been heavily political…Go back and listen to the self titled and toxicity again

  32. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 10:06 am GMT -5 at 10:06 am

    TruthSerum indeed.
    thanks for googling the facts, borderlands 2 was more important then crushing a sad clown.

    iLL – your move friend.

    im still pretty sure this guy hates tech n9ne cos he paints his face. only psychopathic records is allowed to do that right?

  33. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 12:37 pm GMT -5 at 12:37 pm

    I googled and could not find any of that shit.

    And no I will not like his music because he puts it out. Who the fuck are you to say anything about why I like music and how I listen to music?

    I don’t listen to take shit from, I listen because I love music which is why I make music. I can’t take shit from Tech because I’m not Tech. I could never be Tech because I’m me. C’mon man, you don’t know shit about how and why I listen to music.

    Then you say just because I’m an unknown artist my opinion doesn’t matter? Fuck out of here with that shit.

    Your Puppet/Sheep argument is invalid because you know that calling us puppets is the same as calling us sheep, you are saying that we blindly follow his command.

  34. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 01:18 pm GMT -5 at 1:18 pm

    You will like an artist because they put out music if they didn’t you wouldn’t like them. Calling you a sheep is different as your favorite artist leads you on. Calling you a puppet means you can’t help but purchase a shitty record because his hand is up your ass. I say your opinion doesn’t matter as you’re a fucking “artist” who will say “I would’ve mixed that song differently”. You listen to music as a way of seeing what not to do or to do. You’re not your own person as you’re just another artist. 10 out of 12 is a dime a dozen. You make music because it’s the only thing you think you can do decently. I’ve met hundreds of cats just like you Lucem. If you went to soundscan why not post the link. Welcome To Strangeland did 86,000 BPB did 100,000. Those Labels I listed still do better than Strange.

  35. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 01:59 pm GMT -5 at 1:59 pm

    No, you have not met hundreds of people like me. You only believe you know who I am.

    I only actually own 3 Tech records, and like I said, all of his music (other than the gates mixed plate) is music that pleases me.

    Yes, I analyze music just as everybody else does. I don’t listen to music just to analyze, so no, you have no fucking clue what I do when I listen to music. Most music I actually prefer it to be exactly what it is because if it weren’t what it is it’d be less, well, perfect. It’s why I always tell the people, who most of them aren’t even musicians, to take it for what it is. I swear I posted that video 3 different times on the forums in response to people bitching about music not being the way the want it to be. Especially for MDP, since people are bitching about it not being wicked enough. Actually, I’ve seen tons of other people who are not artists complain about not being able to hear the vocals on Daisy, I’m definitely not the first one to point that out. That is a pretty illogical and ignorant statement. I analyze the music just as much as anybody who doesn’t make music, in fact me being a musician just means that I know what it is about a song that makes it less enjoyable. I don’t just listen to music to analyze, I am constantly listening to music because I enjoy music. Quit pulling shitty illogical and ignorant excuses to debunk somebodies opinion just because you were put in a corner and proven wrong when making shitty biased cherry picking claims to force your opinions on others as if your opinions are fact and law.

    Oh, and if you want to hear what REAL half assed and rushed music sounds like check out anything Warlock has released last year.

  36. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 02:08 pm GMT -5 at 2:08 pm

    Let me also state how tons and tons of people are pleased with Tech’s music. Twiztid even said that Strange’s music is so well done that it makes them want to work that much harder on their own music even though their album actually out sold most, if not all, of Strange.

    You, being the outsider looking in, have no clue how hard Tech works on his music, he could just laze around and when asked write his brilliant verses with out putting much thought in to it. Or he could sit there and work his ass off to come up with new twists or new creative things to do with his music. Doesn’t really matter because I still enjoy listening to his music.

  37. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 02:12 pm GMT -5 at 2:12 pm

    Ill the clown, no those other labels you listed dont do better then strange, and I could sit here all day and night and argue with you about it but your not gonna listen anyway…..But for anybody who wants to look up record sales and see how full of BS Illtheclown is, take a trip over to http://www.ukmix.com and type your artists name into the white search bar in the top corner and you can disprove everything this guy says on here lol peace

  38. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 02:26 pm GMT -5 at 2:26 pm

    One more for the road tho just to make my point clearer….. Ces Cru’s album came out last week and has already outsold Cold 187ums album….. The Only Solution = 4,510, Constant Energy Struggles = 5,412…. Also, since you brought up Subnoize in your list of labels that are doing “Better” then Strange I’d like to point out some of there recent sales numbers on big releases………Slaine, “A World Without Skies” has sold 3,494 copies, Mad Childs “Dopesick” has sold 4,721 copies, Swollen Members “Beautiful Death Machine has sold 1,047 copies, La Coka Nostras “Masters of the Dark Arts” has sold 4,249 copies……. Only albums that even sold upwards of 20K copies were the 2 Saigon albums and Kottonmouth Kings “Mile High”…… In other words, Tech outsells there label by himself these days…. just go to http://www.UKMIX.com for constantly updated soundscan figures for any and all genres of music, I discovered this site years ago, and use it primarily to call people like illtheclown out on there bullshit lol

  39. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 02:34 pm GMT -5 at 2:34 pm

    But Tech only sells albums because his fans are puppets.

    And my opinion doesn’t matter because you may listen to enjoy but I listen to over analyze. I take no enjoyment in listening to music and you make no analysis or evaluation of music.

  40. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 03:25 pm GMT -5 at 3:25 pm

    Tech is wack he puts out multiple records with never changing topics. Tech is garbage that you puppets support because he tells you to. Oh and truthserum post the actual soundscan link you mentioned earlier. Strange is a one artist label.

  41. scruffy

    scruffy

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 03:59 pm GMT -5 at 3:59 pm

    the beat goes on… the beat goes on… drum keeps pounding the rhythm to my brain…
    seems this sort of thought-provoking discussion could be carried out in the forum, but, whatever.
    ill, did tech sell out?

  42. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 04:05 pm GMT -5 at 4:05 pm

    Illtheclown, nbody cares what you listen to or like, only reason I’m replying is because you talk out your ass and make things up to justify your own opinion. 90% of the things you say are total bullshit and the other 10% is your own opinion, which you think way too much of lol….. And that site is good enough, soundscans official site makes you pay to be a member but those numbers on there are the truth.

  43. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 04:05 pm GMT -5 at 4:05 pm

    The Tech Sold Out thread was just to troll. Then it became true.

  44. scruffy

    scruffy

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 04:12 pm GMT -5 at 4:12 pm

    just cant get ill to bite anymore. sigh.
    ill for president.
    truthserum for chairman of the fed.

  45. PunkRockJuggalo

    PunkRockJuggalo

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 04:30 pm GMT -5 at 4:30 pm

    swollen members beautiful death machine sold 2900 copies in first week
    care on back to ur bickering
    but i agree with scruffy this would be better in a thread

  46. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 04:41 pm GMT -5 at 4:41 pm

    ^^ Yeah that was a misstype It sold 1000 last week, its total is at 4,004 right now

    http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=96944&p=4304491&hilit=Swollen+Members#p4304491

  47. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 04:53 pm GMT -5 at 4:53 pm

    You declared Strange was the #1 independent power house that’s a bullshit fucking lie. The only people buying music from them are Juggalos. The labels I listed are real power houses. If it’s another site those numbers tend to be bullshit.

  48. Slumerican502

    Slumerican502

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 05:36 pm GMT -5 at 5:36 pm

    So why don’t you post up a link disproving him? He through out checkable facts so why can’t you? It’s fine you don’t like tech dude…Quit wasting so many words on him

  49. Slumerican502

    Slumerican502

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 05:36 pm GMT -5 at 5:36 pm

    Threw*

  50. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 05:40 pm GMT -5 at 5:40 pm

    ill, give it up brah.
    just admit you have no idea what your talking about.
    is it the song with lil wayne that got you angry? make you wanna throw all your tech merch out? awwwwwww, its ok man, ill give you a hug if you want. clearly you need it.

  51. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 06:03 pm GMT -5 at 6:03 pm

    A link to a site that’s not soundscans? You want proof go to that site. You want proof of a better record Grimey Awsrds holds up better than past 9 Tech N9ne records. You want proof go cop it and listen. Tech is a terrible rapper. KGR Riches Royalty Respect was crafted better that Techs last 9 records. Snowgoons last 5 records hold up better than the last 9 Tech records. You want records sold when he has three platinums better yet ONE GOLD record you might have an actual argument. Tech N9ne being a decent rapper is blaspheme he’s not even subpar with the same songs he puts out under a different name.

  52. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 06:09 pm GMT -5 at 6:09 pm

    funny thing is, you go speak to any of those rappers, and tehy will all say the same thing. Tech is killing it.
    your arguements are based on what you believe.

  53. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 06:13 pm GMT -5 at 6:13 pm

    You speaking for other people? Shut the fuck up.

  54. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 06:40 pm GMT -5 at 6:40 pm

    go watch some interviews. everyone in the industry is saying the same thing. and its all coming up tech. not “i have to lie to get my point across, i hate tech cos he did a song with lil wayne!”

  55. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 07:09 pm GMT -5 at 7:09 pm

    What a 5 year old interview? Or an RA interview? The real cats putting in hardwork are the ones putting out quality not quanity 4 eps, a lp and bullshit tour. Techs last several records suck his stage performance isn’t going to keep saving him.

  56. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 07:51 pm GMT -5 at 7:51 pm

    longest tour in hip hop history is bullshit?
    now im just confused.
    i think you might be living a decade in the past. tech isnt a devil worshipper dude. cmon.

  57. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 08:13 pm GMT -5 at 8:13 pm

    Puts out a shitty record and tours 90 days? It doesn’t work like that. Instead of touring he should focus on recording a full good record. Where have I said he’s a devil worshipper? If anything he’s a snake.

  58. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 08:30 pm GMT -5 at 8:30 pm

    snake and the bat? hahah get it?
    i think it was like 99 shows in 117 days or something like that.
    and he still put out records that are topping the indie hiphop charts…. hmmmm wheres your logic mr clown?

    how about that hug now?

  59. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 10:16 pm GMT -5 at 10:16 pm

    I already put up tons of evidence in the forums that disprove iLL and claiming that another artist’s work is much better than Tech’s is all just opinions. Even if your artists out sold Tech (which they don’t) it is just opinions. Plus, I’ve been to one Tech concert in my life and I think only 1/3 of the fans were actually juggalos. Like I said, you have no clue whether or not he does half assed work or not, but the results are still good regardless. Oh, and don’t forget that I kind of explained how majority of those Ill Bill songs you had me check out were all about the same topic. Most of it was him just talking shit. “I got guns, I push drugs, I’m the shit, I’m so bad ass” yeah. So good luck being Ill Bill’s “puppet” buying the same songs with different titles over and over again.

  60. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 10:21 pm GMT -5 at 10:21 pm

    No it’s fact. You can tell it’s half assed by the never changing topics. No the Ill Bill songs you listened to were all different from the last. You were just being a pansy little bitch. Apparently the snake line went over that morons head.

  61. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 10:35 pm GMT -5 at 10:35 pm

    :D Ill Bill puppet right there ^^^^

    He’s got you around his finger like a condom on a penis. Hell, you’re even naming your self “iLL”theClown. Go drink your Ill Bill Kool Aide now.

    XD

  62. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 10:51 pm GMT -5 at 10:51 pm

    no it didnt, its just more amusing to wind you up.

    lets finish this though now. tell you what ill. if you can get more people to share your sentiment on here that strange has a piss weak lineup and is a insignificant music label. at least 4 other people mind you.
    i will take photos of me burning all my strange music merch – cd’s tshirts – flags – posters – dvds and i will stop listening to strange msuic all together.
    or you can tell us honestly that its your opinion and then its over. you clearly have no idea what your talking about.

  63. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 11:05 pm GMT -5 at 11:05 pm

    I’m pretty sure there are at least 4 people on this planet that he could get to do that.

  64. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 11:09 pm GMT -5 at 11:09 pm

    I have 13 people in my surrounding area right now. But they don’t come on this site.

  65. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 4th, 2013 11:37 pm GMT -5 at 11:37 pm

    oh dont get me wrong im sure there are alot of people who agree with this clown, but they all seem rather distant from this convosation.

  66. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 12:37 am GMT -5 at 12:37 am

    Illtheclown is an ego maniac who thinks his own opinion is the word of god……… Your like one of those religious people that wants to force your opinion down the throats of everybody you meet…….NOBODY CARES IF YOU DO OR DONT LIKE TECH, thats the point, he’s doing fine without you. Quit whining and saying the same thing over and over. And if your gonna start talking about his career post some facts to back it up, because nothing you say has any basis in reality.

  67. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 12:39 am GMT -5 at 12:39 am

    conversation spell it right. It’s iLLtheClown spell it right. If you know there’s people out there why should I find 4 people then? Strange has a terrible lineup.

  68. scruffy

    scruffy

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 12:50 am GMT -5 at 12:50 am

    comin up on a record…

  69. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 01:22 am GMT -5 at 1:22 am

    HAHAH spelling nazi’s on the internets. who woulda thunk it.
    anyways, im australian. its not my fault, theres something in the water.

  70. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:22 am GMT -5 at 2:22 am

    When somebody is backed in a corner in an argument and they are to egotistical to admit their wrongs they will find any way to try and “win” the debate.
    In this case iLL has made a completely iLLogical form of ‘poisoning the well’ by saying that anything I say has no validity because I’m a musician and I listen to analyze rather than listen to enjoy.
    Another form of poisoning the well he did is calling us “puppets” for liking Tech, so anybody who puts up great points on why Tech is a good rapper is a “puppet” and is debunked, according to his statement. It is extremely similar to Christians saying that “the devil’s greatest trick is to make you believe he doesn’t exist” and is exactly the same as juggalos calling anybody that likes ICP’s new music ‘sheep’.
    Another logical fallacy that iLL threw around a lot was the ad hominem. Personal insults like calling me a pansy bitch or you a moron. Him attacking your spelling is also a form of ad hominem because he wants to make it look as if you are the idiot and he is the genius which makes it seem as though his argument holds more water when in reality your one spelling mistake does not change the fact that team Tech provided more evidence to back up their claims.
    So who won this argument? It depends on how you define winning an argument. If you think that proving your claim over your opponents claim is winning an argument then Team Tech won while iLLtheClown lost.
    If you think that learning something new or gaining a new understanding of things is winning an argument, like I do, then we all really lost. But to be fair I knew that it wouldn’t really go anywhere from the beginning. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and only a few people have the ability of showing theirs off with out being offensive.

  71. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:23 am GMT -5 at 2:23 am

    And only a few people can be exposed to them with out being offended.

  72. scruffy

    scruffy

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:26 am GMT -5 at 2:26 am

    tech n9ne won the argument.

  73. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:29 am GMT -5 at 2:29 am

    in the ability to completely derail a thread. lucem, your an artist? where can i check your stuff out?

  74. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:30 am GMT -5 at 2:30 am

    ^^^ Facts won the argument, thats the point dude missed this entire 500-post debate, is that nobody is trying to convince him that his opinion is right or wrong…… But there is no need to make fairy tales about a mans career to make yourself feel better about not liking him lol I mean I dont like Lil Wayne but I’m not gonna sit around and post non-sense like “Nobody listens to Lil Wayne, he dont sell any records, he flops all the time and Chino XL sells more records then he does” because it isnt true and I dont need to trick myself into believeing that to justify my own dislike for his music.

  75. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:35 am GMT -5 at 2:35 am

    See I won regardless of how you want to see it. I was called a moron first because of an an opinion of how Tech (so great apparently) constantly reuses the same material. Actually me attacking his spelling was because he spelled something wrong and should be enlightened on how to spell it properly. You’re from Australia i’m from Earth let that be a smack in the face. Apparently it took a “team” to “beat” me… let that sink in. Nobody put up great points of him being a great rapper as no lyrics I wonder why? Maybe it didn’t cross your minds. Maybe you know him being a “great rapper” is bullshit.

  76. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:40 am GMT -5 at 2:40 am

    In a world of 7 billion people 300 million in America he can only push in the ten thousands?

  77. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:40 am GMT -5 at 2:40 am

    ^^^ You dont get the point. Nobody has to prove there opinion to you because an opinion by definition cant be proven. I feel Tech is a great rapper because I like what he does, I dont need your co-sign to verify that its okay to feel that way lol……… You need to get over your own opinion, what you think is not the word of go, If you dont like Tech more power to you, he’s doing fine without you…… Personally, I think all the backpack rappers you named, like Ill Bill, make moring conspiracy theory music and use the same delivery on every song and I’d rather go deaf then listen to it……But you dont see me showing up on every Ill Bill thread to complain about him and annoy his fans, or aking up lies about him to make myself feel better about my opinion like you do with Tech

  78. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:45 am GMT -5 at 2:45 am

    Lucem you as a musician learn from analysing other musicians work. Given time I could find your flow, rhyme scheme, production style and so much more from listening to your favorite artists. You as a “artist” should already know you analyse every record you own to better yourself. You don’t listen to enjoy you listen to take.

  79. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:47 am GMT -5 at 2:47 am

    ^^^^ You spelled “analyzing” wrong, just though I’d point that out since you went all grammer nazi on the other guy lol

  80. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:49 am GMT -5 at 2:49 am

    I never named a single “backpack rapper” till somebody else named them. I named labels. Go read the third comment some butt hurt fuck couldn’t take an honest opinion on a lazy “artist”.

  81. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:51 am GMT -5 at 2:51 am

    Actually it’s one of the few words that can have a z instead of an s when spelled.

  82. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 03:28 am GMT -5 at 3:28 am

    Tech N9ne is the opposite of lazy, lol @ you saying a guy who releases more music and tours more every year then anybody else is lazy…. See, this is what I mean about you living in a fantasy world. You dont like Tech, fine, but then you say complete bullshit like “Lazy Artist” ,get the fuck outta here lol if anything he works too much and should try being lazy for once in his life for a change of pace….

  83. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 03:39 am GMT -5 at 3:39 am

    Quality over Quanity his records suck more and more. You put alot of music out how fast did he rush those verses for every track on the record? Take The Godfathers by Necro & Kool G Rap for example they’re in no rush to finish it. Guarentee it’ll be a masterpiece. Take Muddy Waters 2 by Redman as an example he’s in no rush to finish it because he wants it to be a masterpiece. Take the three records Tech released in 2012 listen to every song how many share the same topic on another release. Take the two releases Tech put out in 2011 how many tracks share a similar pattern to another on the other record. Rushing is laziness.

  84. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 03:44 am GMT -5 at 3:44 am

    In a world of 7 billion people 300 million in America he can only push in the ten thousands?

    - ummm none of the guys you stated are doing any better so its kind of a void argument.

    also the grimey awards is kinda average. nowhere near on par his old stuff or his early la coka nostra stuff.

  85. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 03:53 am GMT -5 at 3:53 am

    haven’t really given any specific examples. it seems like you’ve backed yourself into a corner and know your wrong but don’t want to look like a fool for backing down.

    cmon clown, show me some tech songs that are reused garbage as you put it.

  86. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 04:00 am GMT -5 at 4:00 am

    Illthe clown, Working too much cannot be considered laziness any way you explain it. Textbook definition of lziness is as follows :1. Resistant to work or exertion; disposed to idleness.
    2. Slow-moving; sluggish: a lazy river.
    3. Conducive to idleness or indolence: a lazy summer day.
    4. Depicted as reclining or lying on its side. Used of a brand on livestock.
    So, according to the textbook definition of the word no, Tech N9ne is not lazy……. The quality of his music is in the eye of the beholder, those records you hate so much might be somebody elses favorite. When you say they suck, your not stating a fact, merely your own opinion which cant be proven or disproven……. I for one thought Klusterfukk was a great EP, but that doesnt mean I’m right and your wrong, its just different tastes and god bless you cause I dont care what you like lol

  87. TruthSerum

    TruthSerum

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 04:17 am GMT -5 at 4:17 am

    If you want to talk musical content, then consider this…… Even when Tech makes songs on the same topic, they sound different because of his flow, the choruses he & Kaliko come up with and other factors…… An artist like Ill Bill can write 2 songs about completely different concepts and have them both come off sounding the same because he always uses the same flow and has no diversity in his delivery or voice…… So, if you look at it from that angle, Tech’s vocal diversity alone might make him more creative in alot of peoples opinions then the artists you listen to……. Thats why so many people hate the kind of underground rap, its always the same formula…… “Angry White guy complaining about everything over Boom Bap beat with a DJ cutting on the chorus”…… *Yawn* It was done better by Black Moon & Smif N Wessun 20 years ago.

  88. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 05:07 am GMT -5 at 5:07 am

    ill bills favorite topic is gangsta jew growing up in the projects.

  89. Slumerican502

    Slumerican502

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 12:14 pm GMT -5 at 12:14 pm

    I like cereal

  90. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 12:29 pm GMT -5 at 12:29 pm

    cereal is good. i dont like the sugary stuff though. its gotta be one of those ones hey advertise as ultra healthy. im not a health freak or nothing but i love me a big bowl of just right :D

  91. Slumerican502

    Slumerican502

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 12:56 pm GMT -5 at 12:56 pm

    What you mean that ultra healthy sellout cereal? Healthy cereal hasn’t put out a good brand in ten years…Just rehashes of the same cereal over and over. Ultra healthy sold 36 boxes of cereal in 2012 while sugary sold over 15 billions boxes.

    Im more knowledgeable about cereal on everyone one here therefore my opinion is top dog fucking bees knees…..Yall get the point, stfu ill

  92. Slumerican502

    Slumerican502

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 12:57 pm GMT -5 at 12:57 pm

    *than *billion

  93. Lucem Ferre

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 01:02 pm GMT -5 at 1:02 pm

    Then iLL commits the ‘bad fallacy fallacy’ where he points out one logical fallacy to debunk our claim, when the fallacy it’s self doesn’t change the fact that we still had more logical evidence to back up our claim. You can try to say that I commit the ‘bad fallacy fallacy’ when I didn’t, I just pointed out how all of his claims and points happen to be logically fallacious as ours were backed up with statistics and logic. As for Tech N9ne being a lazy rapper, now that is debatable on whether or not that’s an opinion or a false claim.

    I think this whole argument proves the fact that you listen to analyze just as much as I do. If to analyze is to Examine methodically and in detail the constitution or structure of (something, esp. information), typically for purposes of explanation and interpretation, which it is cause I copy and pasted that definition, you are analyzing Tech N9ne right now. Just like if could determine what I sound like by the artists I listen to then you are analyzing those artists. I listen to enjoy and analyze because if I don’t enjoy it why the fuck would I want to study it? If I didn’t enjoy music why the fuck would I want to make it? Here’s something that also proves that theory wrong. I like some party songs (Caribou Lou, Bout Ta Bubble, Get Thow’d) yet I don’t party. I don’t make party songs, and I doubt I will ever attempt to make a party song. Plus, you can never determine someone’s style based off of who they listen to. If so, don’t you think people could predict new styles that get born? I don’t think punk rockers could’ve ever predicted pop punk and emo music spawning from their music. Who could’ve predicted dubstep? Who could’ve predicted hip hop? Nobody, so both of those claims are completely void.

  94. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 02:18 pm GMT -5 at 2:18 pm

    “Tech’s vocal diversity alone” What diversity it’s the same flow. ill bills favorite topic is gangsta jew growing up in the projects. Really? I guess Riya, My Uncle, Cult Leader, Trust Nobody, Society Is Brainwashed, How To Survive The Apocolypse, World Premier, Paul Baloff, Exploding Octapus, Acid Reflux, Porno Director, U.B.S, The Anatomy of a School Shooting, 21, The Names Bill, When I Die want me to continue? If you’re going to take a definition from the free dictionary make sure merriam has the same definition.

    I can predict the next Tech N9ne record is going to have a party song, a song about drinking, a song about fucking, a song about being sad, a song about being mad and a song about being better than you because he can’t write a song about anything other than those. I can tell who you’re trying to imitate by listening to your music and your favorite artists. You analyse to take something and make your own. If you don’t like it you still analyse and took from it because you don’t want that style.

  95. Violentdope

    Violentdope

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 05:48 pm GMT -5 at 5:48 pm

    jesus christ….tech and icp are the shit….period

  96. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 06:23 pm GMT -5 at 6:23 pm

    did i say only topic? no i said favorite. i actually really like ill bill (his older stuff anyways), but the conspiracy/gangsta Jew/my crackhead uncle howie raps get old. and a lot of his stuff is nowhere near diverse.
    your opinion takes techs music to the basest level of stupidity. you can make 100 sad songs but that doesn’t means there all gonna be the same. if you look at it that way, you can put every song in the world into a tiny collection of categories. im starting to think youve never really even listened to a tech n9ne song. you just know the titles and flick through the songs to get the general content so you can make a base assumption off what you think is a good and thorough analyzation, when in reality you just hate on tech for some unknown reason, because clearly EVERYTHING youve said here the past few days is a lie.

    but what i really wanted to say to you is – http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2013/04/ten_greatest_midwest_rappers_of_all_time.php?page=4
    peep that homie, just another example of why tech is the king of independent hip hop. also, he was named in the top 20 hip hop earners by forbes magazine in 2012.
    http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eeel45jjgd/cash-kings-2012-hip-hops-top-earners-2/#gallerycontent

    sorry if your not ment to post links and shit, but clearly tech n9ne sucks so bad that he beat all the other little record labels out there.

    - Slumerican502: yeah i know, i dunno though, i just have a thing for healthy cereal, im not saying its a good thing but i love it man hahah

  97. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 06:24 pm GMT -5 at 6:24 pm

    Also necro > ill bill all day for gangsta jew flow.

  98. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 06:53 pm GMT -5 at 6:53 pm

    Do you have thing against jewish people? Seems a little anti semitic.

  99. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 07:01 pm GMT -5 at 7:01 pm

    hahahahahahahahahahahah that’s grasping at straws now. no i don’t have a thing against Jews, but you have to admit that both Necro and Ill bill play very heavily on their Jewish heritage.

    i like how you took one tiny little thing out of my post and ignored all the actual facts which you tend to do a lot, ignore the facts that is hahaha.
    your argument gets weaker with every post.

  100. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 07:07 pm GMT -5 at 7:07 pm

    Also necro > ill bill all day for gangsta jew flow. this was your post. the fact that Necro has three songs about his jewish heritage and Bill has how many? One maybe? Necro has more verses about his jewish heritage Bill not really. Made your post rather pointless.

  101. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 07:52 pm GMT -5 at 7:52 pm

    3 new songs, go back and listen to their early freestyles and lps. dont just listen to murder murder kill kill and the grimy awards and think you know what your talking about.
    and that still doesnt explain how im an anti Semite?

  102. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 07:53 pm GMT -5 at 7:53 pm

    you do know they both have been around since the 90s right?

  103. wonka69

    wonka69

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 09:14 pm GMT -5 at 9:14 pm

    make it stop… 2 much words… arggh !

  104. Violentdope

    Violentdope

    Comment posted on Friday, April 5th, 2013 10:07 pm GMT -5 at 10:07 pm

    novocaine is right…tech isnt a juggalo…hes down with em though..

  105. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Saturday, April 6th, 2013 08:43 pm GMT -5 at 8:43 pm

    Realize this gunther you brought their jewishness up like it’s a main stay in their lyrics. Bill only song that comes to mind is White Nigger and Canarsie Artie’s Brigade Realise this out of every release of theirs whether it’s an old freestyle, new song or a verse they still don’t bring up their jewish heritage as much you tried to make it seem. Yeah i’ma call you anti-semitic for bringing stuff like that up. Bet you probably extremely racist in person.

  106. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Saturday, April 6th, 2013 11:24 pm GMT -5 at 11:24 pm

    are you seriously still going on with this?
    you failed at proving your point so you clutch onto racism to make me look evil.
    why don’t you just admit that you were wrong. it would save you a lot of failure.

  107. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Saturday, April 6th, 2013 11:43 pm GMT -5 at 11:43 pm

    You brought up Bill & Necro’s heritage when it was completely irrelevant to the topic. Like I said you tried to make it seem as though their heritage was a main stay in their lyrics. The fact you brought it up allowed me to call you out on it. The fact you responded proves i’m right about you being racist.

  108. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Sunday, April 7th, 2013 01:21 am GMT -5 at 1:21 am

    it proves nothing you idiot.
    if i said nothing you would have made the comment that im running cos im scared of the truth and if i defend my self im lying.
    and i never said i had a problem with them using their jewish heritage in their music, just that it gets old after a while. and yeah i think that black artist taking about slavery in every other track gets irritating.
    it doesnt make me racist it just means that playing on those topics heavily can be irritating.
    just like you claiming to have an understanding of the underground hip hop movement.
    this argument is about the fact that you think that that strange music is a non contender for the largest independent hip hop label.
    we understand that your angry that tech chose to stop doing drugs because he wanted to be around for his kids, but that doesnt make him a bad artist.
    that just makes you a stupid bitter child.
    Tech said it best i think “if you don’t like the new shit, go buy the old shit”

    don’t try derail your stupidity by making me look racist. lies ahve gotten you nowhere so far and they arent going to get you any further.

  109. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Sunday, April 7th, 2013 01:59 am GMT -5 at 1:59 am

    “Gets old after a while”? They don’t bring it up as much as you’re trying to make it out to be. Are you that prejudice that one line on a 17 track record is all the time? Kid you’re on a site where being prejudice isn’t cool. That long drawn out response proves my point you’re racist, prejudice what ever you wanna call it. It’s 2013 not 1845 racism ain’t cool.
    Also #1 contender for largest independent hip hop label? They aren’t hip-hop first off. Second it’s 5 rappers with everyone else on distro deals. Third Tech is the only seller on the label and his music is complete shit. He wants to be around his kids then why does he tour so much then?
    I have a better understanding of underground hip-hop then you think. You probably think tech is the only “rapper” left in the world. That’s sad and pathetic. But I don’t pity you.

  110. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Sunday, April 7th, 2013 03:33 am GMT -5 at 3:33 am

    bwahahaha, keep playing to the racist/prejudice card dude, it seems to be what your good at.
    you hate on tech becuse you don’t like his new music, but you still havent been able to show hard facts to back yourself up.
    lol because tech is my favourite artist in hip hop atm means i must think theres no-one else out there killing it? hahahahahaha.
    again your trying to turn your opinion into truth which it isnt. i feel bad for you.
    so because tech does tracks about getting drunk and partying and you dont like that does that make you racist against african americans?
    i do pity you, because you live in this little bubble of what juggalos are slowing becoming, worse then mainstream fans. so fucking against anything they don’t like that they will rant for days on a news post about how they think someone should be performing instad of just not listening to the music, which seems like the logical choice.

  111. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Sunday, April 7th, 2013 03:40 am GMT -5 at 3:40 am

    you know, at first i figured you were just trolling for kicks, because that’s what pre-teens do on the internet nowadays for fun.
    but after i actually thought about it, you seem to actually think you are right. even though you have shown no actual evidence to prove me wrong, people have shown numbers which prove your ideas false and you continue to grind yourself into the ground.
    why so bitter because tech changed direction man? there are plenty of gang banger rappers out there bragging about the coke the do and sell. why so much hate on tech?

  112. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Sunday, April 7th, 2013 09:44 pm GMT -5 at 9:44 pm

    Because you’re still oblivious to what’s going on here. I kept you here for four days commenting enjoy the time you will never get back. Second you made a post about two people and included there heritage which is kind of prejudice. Third you wanna go with numbers than Lil’ Wayne, Kanye, Jay-Z, Eminem, Icp & 2 chainz are better than tech n9ne. Take it for what is you know you’re at a loss.

  113. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Sunday, April 7th, 2013 11:43 pm GMT -5 at 11:43 pm

    You gave me a good chuckle, so its not a loss. its not like i have been sitting at my pc for 4 days spamming teh refresh button.
    also, we are talking about independent music not mainstream music. if you get the radio play you will get more sales, your argument fails again.
    you still havent shown anything other then that your a kid bitter on tech cos he isnt making msuic for you specifically.
    the grimey awards is slowly growing on me too, still nothing on his old stuff though. but that is my opinion, and he is still killing it in the underground.
    Go on, play the race card again kid. its the best argument you have.

  114. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Monday, April 8th, 2013 02:01 am GMT -5 at 2:01 am

    No it’s still a loss for you. Tech does get radio play, his songs have appeared on Mtv & BET. Tech has lent his songs to several video games and a movie. Appeared on television in person Mtv & BET programs Tech has also played roles in movies. He’s mainstream. Also I’ve kept you coming back here like a battered wife. 111 comments you’re dumb for thinking you’re beating me. I know damn well you haven’t listened to Grimey Award as you bashed the producers on it (which any real underground hip-hop fan/head would do) and you’re only saying that to cover your ass. Also your hypocrisy in your last paragraph.

  115. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Monday, April 8th, 2013 02:34 am GMT -5 at 2:34 am

    i wasn’t aware there was a problem with pushing for recognition? and how is he mainstream. you still sound like a bitter kid.
    how am i beating you, you still haven’t shown that strange music is one of the top indie hip hop labels, youve just given your opinion and tried ramming it down my throat.
    so because i come here a few times a day to read over the forums and news and comment on your anal hatred for tech doing HIS thing, you are winning?
    Is it such a problem for me to enjoy an album after listening to it a few times? no i don’t like the beats very much, but thats My opinion. if you like it thats cool.

  116. iLLtheClown

    Comment posted on Monday, April 8th, 2013 02:51 am GMT -5 at 2:51 am

    “you still haven’t shown that strange music is one of the top indie hip hop labels” Uh you haven’t proved that but I disproved it. You think you’re winning thus thinking you’re beating me. “Is it such a problem for me to enjoy an album after listening to it a few times? no i don’t like the beats very much, but thats My opinion. if you like it thats cool.” that proves you as being a hypocrite and you also aren’t listening to Grimey Awards thinking the beats suck. You are just trying to cover your ass.

  117. novocaine

    novocaine

    Comment posted on Monday, April 8th, 2013 04:38 am GMT -5 at 4:38 am

    how does it prove im not listening to the album if i say i dont like the beats?
    oh, i get it. i must have the wrong album. gosh golly i do look the fool. so what has me curious is, you claim to know so much about the internal workings of the indie hip hop industry. are you a failing artist, disgruntled former strange employee or just someone who spends his entire waking life googling indie hip hop so he knows more than anyone else on the internets.
    if it is any of teh above, please move on with your life, your music probably sucks so you should give in/don’t hate, it was just a job, there are plenty more/get out, see some sunlight and get a job(or education) . either that or you actually are ill bill or someone along those lines and are super upset that i dissed your record. in that case, get over it?

  118. orzydorzy

    orzydorzy

    Comment posted on Thursday, April 11th, 2013 03:10 am GMT -5 at 3:10 am

    I cant wait to hear what it sounds like.

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